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CLINTON CREW ONCE AGAIN BETRAYS AMERICA? -- HINTS
Elenchus File | December 29, 2001 | S. Elenchus

Posted on 12/29/2001 12:00:48 PM PST by elenchus

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Perhaps, contrary to any and all appearances, Admiral Crowe's stock was acquired innocently, and perhaps El-Hibri has carefully protected our nation's secrets and our security and legitimately gained American citizenship. Perhaps neither of these men has betrayed his country in any respect. It would be helpful to know precisely what the Admiral was compensated for, precisely what services he performed to merit the compensation and whether other Clinton government and military officials charged with protecting America might have jeopardized our national security for stock or other forms of compensation.

It would seem that a Congressional and Justice Department investigation of this matter would deserve the highest level of priority.

1 posted on 12/29/2001 12:00:49 PM PST by elenchus
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To: elenchus
Add to the heap of "Legacy!":


i got away wif murder, rape and obstruction of justice.
i so pround o myself!




2 posted on 12/29/2001 12:05:27 PM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: elenchus
Crowe's good friend and classmate at the Naval Academy was Jackson T. Stephens, principal owner of the Arkansas investment firm, Stephens & Co., and, many say, the power behind Clinton's political career.

There was some other imbroglio involving Crowe a few years back, but I can't quite remember what it was. As I recall, something Crowe wrote came back to bite him. I will do some research and see if I can find it.

4 posted on 12/29/2001 12:47:04 PM PST by beckett
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To: elenchus
Below is an excerpt from Crowe's statement before the House Committee on Government reform in 1999. The entire statement can be found HERE. It shows that Crowe was deeply involved in the efforts of the United States Military to vaccinate personnel against anthrax.

Before closing let me discuss one peripheral issue. It would be naïve of me not to mention some of the vague and rather misinformed criticisms of my association with BioPort. It has on occasion been rumored that the decision to inoculate all service personnel was made to benefit the BioPort Corporation and indirectly me, presumably because of my past associations with the military and the Administration. If this charge were not so ridiculous, it would be offensive. It outrageously exaggerates my influence. I didn't have that much influence when I was Chairman and I certainly don't have it now.

Let me be completely clear. I never, repeat never, solicited any official of this Administration to install or promote a mandatory inoculation program. Secretary Cohen's announcement of the mandatory vaccine requirement was made on May 18, 1998. The Steering Group's deliberations took place many months before this date. Actually, a Washington Post article reported in late 1996 that such a policy was being considered. At the time of the official announcement, the group I was associated with was engaged in a spirited competition with a number of other bidders to privatize the old Michigan Laboratory. The bid winner was not selected until June 1998 and the decision was made by the State of Michigan. The Department of Defense maintained a neutral position throughout this process. Frankly, the May 18 announcement made the final bidding phase of the competition more intense. The attempt to link me with the Secretary's decision is pure fantasy.

I understand that there are irresponsible web sites run by organizations that oppose the military and/or the vaccine. I would urge the Congress to detach itself from the emotionalism of this debate and not to be deceived or distracted by charges and counter charges that have nothing to do with the real issues. Do vaccines make a worthwhile contribution to the country's defense against biological attacks? Are they reasonably safe to administer to our citizens? My answer is "yes" to both questions.

5 posted on 12/29/2001 12:58:17 PM PST by beckett
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To: elenchus
It looks as though Mr. Crowe is a real fan of the Soviet Union. Take a look at this article that he wrote concerning Veterans Day in America.

From the Las Vegas Review Journal. http://www.lvrj.com/lvrj_home/2001/Nov-07-Wed-2001/opinion/17382234.html

"One aspect of that war has been seriously overlooked by most Americans -- the Soviet Union's contributions from 1940 to 1945. After all, we are not the only nation with veterans."

"I suggest that on Veterans Day we give a warm thought to the Russian veterans who fought so well as allies and who paid an unprecedented price at a time when our own republic was in great peril. That's what Veterans Day is all about."

6 posted on 12/29/2001 12:59:21 PM PST by Reactionary
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To: Reactionary
Crowe was kissing the Soviets asses trying to add ball caps to his collection when they were still exporting terrorism and developing new bio weapons to use against us. I can't think it is a coincidence that he ended up on the board of Bio Port, peddling a crappy vaccine to be shot into every American serviceman. The guy made his career in D.C., he is a politician, not a war fighter and is the scariest type of military officer.
7 posted on 12/29/2001 1:10:38 PM PST by USNBandit
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To: beckett; Alamo Girl
"Crowe's good friend and classmate at the Naval Academy was Jackson T. Stephens, principal owner of the Arkansas investment firm, Stephens & Co., and, many say, the power behind Clinton's political career.

There was some other imbroglio involving Crowe a few years back, but I can't quite remember what it was. As I recall, something Crowe wrote came back to bite him. I will do some research and see if I can find it.

Alamo Girl should know all about this.
8 posted on 12/29/2001 1:13:35 PM PST by demkicker
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To: demkicker
Thx...maybe she will. I remember it was a small dustup, and it was discussed on FR. I still haven't been able to nail down what it was though. I don't believe it was Bio-Port or anthrax related.

I'll get it eventually.

9 posted on 12/29/2001 2:15:50 PM PST by beckett
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To: elenchus
bttt
11 posted on 12/29/2001 2:55:43 PM PST by LiberteeBell
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To: MeeknMing
Scandal train keeps on rolling! When will it ever end?! I wonder how much of this will ever be taught in public schools or be in history textbooks!
12 posted on 12/29/2001 3:24:36 PM PST by bushwon
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To: elenchus

The Wild Wild Left Wing
Bill Clinton--The 42nd President Who Never Missed An Opportunity to Perform In Front of A Camera and Microphone, to Enhance His Campaign War Chest, Even If It Meant Accepting Cash From a Dubious Cast of Characters, and/or Even If It Meant Skirting Campaign Finance Laws, and to Remind the American People Particularly When Questioned About Certain Almost With Every Day Occurrence Unsavory Dealings and Scandals He Found Himself Somehow Surprisingly Embroiled In, As Well As Finding the Time to Blame the Proud Members of the VRWC for His Problems, He Must Get Back to Doing the Work He Was Hired To Do as He Waged Full Out Frontal Attack on the Rule of Law, and along with the Scintillating Help of His Favorite Magazine Publisher, Larry Flynt, on Ken Starr Who Was Actually Doing the Work He Was Hired To Do.

In the meantime, Mrs. Clinton fondly remembers how much her dear husband just loved ministering to young interns in blue dresses in the oval office and because he is so dexterious he can do this while discussing on the presidential phone to Congressmen about sending our troops into Bosnia. With his hands so full is it any wonder he didn't have time to "smoke out and hunt down OBL"?

Good for USA, and for Peace Loving People Everywhere, President George W. Bush Does.
13 posted on 12/29/2001 3:41:06 PM PST by harpo11
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To: elenchus
CLINTON CREW ONCE AGAIN BETRAYS AMERICA?

Why I am Shocked.
Shocked I say.

14 posted on 12/29/2001 3:52:23 PM PST by DeaconRed
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To: bushwon
.."how much of this will be taught in Public Schools or History Books"...?

...President HILLARY =

.. 0% ..

15 posted on 12/29/2001 4:17:09 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: Voter#537
Everyone should understand... Bill Clinton is NO American patriot..he's a GLOBALIST" with a Marxist bent. The Soviets knew in the 70's ...they obviously supported his political career... the Red Chinese were well aware of the politics of the man and his "wife".

Red Chinese money... a LITTLE ROCK Arkansas....lol Chinese restauranteur becomes a major DIRTY Money "bagman" for the Chinese during Clinton's Campaign...hmmm maybe he was inspired by a fortune cookie...??

A Huge RED Chinese backed Indonesian Bank, The Lippo Group, brings their NEW American "Headquarters" to this country and bases it in...Where? Why LITTLE ROCK.. Where else???

hmmmmm I wonder why??? Could it al have begun during that 40 day "Vacation in Moscow in the 70's??? well DUH....

Only my opinion you understand....

16 posted on 12/29/2001 4:20:21 PM PST by Bob Eimiller
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To: abwehr
...ALOHA RONNIE = 1960's Jesuit University Classmate of TONY COELHO who later went on to fight the Godless Communism invading a then Free South Vietnam in 1965.

...TONY COELHO = 1960's Jesuit University Classmate of ALOHA RONNIE who later went on to personally engineer in Congress the Cut-Off of U.S. funding for the only Freedom Fighters fighting the CASTRO-Backed Communism invading a still free Central America in the early 1980's.

...NUTS.

17 posted on 12/29/2001 4:29:12 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: Bob Eimiller;Snow Bunny;Alamo Girl;ChaseR
...BILL CLINTON was 'Turned' into a Communist while on his 40 Day Trip thru the Communist Soviet Union collecting his Communist Money Backing for his 1970's Anti-U.S. Demonstrations he was organizing for in front of the American Embassy in London, England.

...BILL CLINTON returned to the USA to meet his Communist 'Control' HILLARY RODHAM after his Anti-U.S. work was completed abroad.

...This per a report years ago from a former CIA Agent.

..'Turned' FONDA / 'Control' HAYDEN =

..'Turned' CLINTON / 'Control' RODHAM.

18 posted on 12/29/2001 4:44:46 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: elenchus;goldilucky;reformjoy;buchanan mama;doug from upland;Mercuria;onyx;Registered;Angelwood...
...Domestic ANTHRAX Link =

...1st ANTHRAX Target is the Editorial Staff Offices of American Media, Inc whose Publications have been running the most effect public Journalism of 2001 exposing the Misbehaviors of JESSE JACKSON, GARY CONDIT, HILLARY & BILL CLINTON and OSAMA bin LADEN

...2nd ANTHRAX Target is the Editorial Staff Offices of the New York Post = DICK MORRIS Columns have been most effective in 2001 exposing the Misbehaviors of the CLINTONS while in the White House.

...3rd ANTHRAX Target is the Ford U.S. Senate Office Building which stores BILL CLINTON's Impeachment Evidence, not the least of which is the Proof of his XX Rape of JUANITTA BRODERICK that he needs to disappear.

The Enemy is now Within ...and always has been.

19 posted on 12/29/2001 4:59:39 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
BTTT
20 posted on 12/29/2001 5:03:12 PM PST by LADY J
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To: beckett
Let me be completely clear. I never, repeat never, solicited any official of this Administration to install or promote a mandatory inoculation program.

Did he look right at the panel and wag his finger?

I guess it could depend on what "solicited" means...

21 posted on 12/29/2001 5:04:09 PM PST by womanvet
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
BTTT
22 posted on 12/29/2001 5:20:55 PM PST by NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Bill Clinton's travels in Eastern Europe involved mostly Romany relatives and members of families with feudal obligations toward him and his family.

His ease of travel exceeded that of high ranking Communist party members - as it should have - the Romany have been doing this for a number of centuries as a matter of survival.

Hillary's father is supposedly one of the Blythe cousins anyway. Her marriage to Bill is similar in its genesis to the Communist "control" system, but it is nothing more than your basic, old fashioned, arranged marriage of one Romany family to another Romany family.

Bill's number one problem has been to deny his ethnic and historical heritage; he should have known better; after all, in America, even the Gadje are gypsies.

23 posted on 12/29/2001 5:46:05 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
BILL CLINTON returned to the USA to meet his Communist 'Control' HILLARY RODHAM after his Anti-U.S. work was completed abroad.

I have acquaintances that wonder whether the same Clinton left the USSR as entered. His phobic guarding of medical records leaves one to wonder.

24 posted on 12/29/2001 5:50:22 PM PST by Vinnie
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To: beckett
"Let me be completely clear. I never, repeat never, solicited any official of this Administration to install or promote a mandatory inoculation program."

This must be the DemonRats boilerplate Statement of Intimidation passed down from the Head Cheese Hisself, the Elf Endowed: "Let me be completely clear. I never, repeat never, had sex with.." yadda yadda yadda.

25 posted on 12/29/2001 5:52:10 PM PST by JusticeLives
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Look, two of the targets were tabloid publishers. In the Middle East this is the physical type a newspaper takes. They do not have things like the WashPost, LATimes, NYTimes.

You will notice none of the major dailies in the US was attacked. As suspicious as that is in a time of declining advertising revenues, I think the critical difference is tabloid verses unbound, two fold.

We might also notice that in the US almost all tabloid style dailies or weeklies use an 8th grade language standard.

The other targets were broadcast television networks! You will notice that no cable network was attacked. This is because the attackers were the type who don't waste money on cable when perfectly good broadcast tv is around.

That means the attackers were billionaries like Russ Perot, or cheapskates like Mr. Atta!

These people were not targeted for "what" they said - rather, they were targets of convenience which were simply "known" to the attackers!

26 posted on 12/29/2001 5:52:50 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: ALOHA RONNIE; kristinn; ironman; The Glaswegian; leadpenny; Doctor Raoul; Jimmy Valentine's Brother
...3rd ANTHRAX Target is the Ford U.S. Senate Office Building which stores BILL CLINTON's Impeachment Evidence, not the least of which is the Proof of his XX Rape of JUANITTA BRODERICK that he needs to disappear.

I have donned my tinfoil hat as I sit here sipping my Bombay Sapphire on the rocks.

27 posted on 12/29/2001 6:28:52 PM PST by Rockinfreakapotamus
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To: elenchus; ALOHA RONNIE; goldilucky; KLT; Black Jade
"Our analysis of the timeline shows that it was around this time that Admiral Crowe endorsed President Clinton for his first term as President of the United States....It has been reported that Admiral Crowe has owned as much as 13% of BioPort stock and that it was under his watch as a member of the Joint Chiefs that Saddam Hussein was given anthrax to use against the Iranians ...Epstein also overlooks the ironic fact that in the year 2000, President Clinton awarded Admiral Crowe the..."

It would be helpful to know precisely what the Admiral was compensated for,
precisely what services he performed to merit the compensation and whether other Clinton government and military officials
charged with protecting America might have jeopardized our national security for stock or other forms of compensation.

28 posted on 12/29/2001 6:50:06 PM PST by ChaseR
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To: elenchus
"It would seem that a Congressional and Justice Department investigation
of this matter would deserve the highest level of priority."

Yes Indeed!

29 posted on 12/29/2001 6:51:11 PM PST by ChaseR
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Bump for your #18
30 posted on 12/29/2001 6:52:47 PM PST by ChaseR
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To: ALOHA RONNIE; abwehr
"The Enemy is now Within ...and always has been."

The Enemy is now Within - don't you agree abwehr??

31 posted on 12/29/2001 6:55:28 PM PST by ChaseR
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To: muawiyah;Snow Bunny;ChaseR;onyx;Fred Mertz;Alamo Girl
...OK, "8th Graders" attacked the EDITORIAL OFFICES of the National ENQUIRER, STAR, GLOBE, National EXAMINER and MIRA that have been doing supurb Investigative Reports on the CLINTONS, JESSE JACKSON, GARY CONDIT and OSAMA bin LADEN.

...OK, "8th Graders" attacked the EDITORIAL OFFICES of the NEW YORK POST that had been running the most damgaging of the CLINTONS' Former White House Political Advisor DICK MORRIS' Exposing Columns about them not to mention the November 1999 Front Page Story that stated that JFK Jr was going to announe his run for the New York Senate Seat against HILLARY ...which only his plane suddenly entering the Atantic Ocean at high speed stopped.

...yeah SURE.

32 posted on 12/29/2001 7:41:07 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: muawiyah
...WHY did a Romany Trippin' BILL CLINTON just have to meet with the Heads of the Czech KGB Secret Police during his 1969/70 Trip thru the Communist Soviet Union...

...as he was picking up his Communist Funding for his Anti-US Demonstrations he was organizing for the front of our American Embassy in London, England...?

WHY?????

33 posted on 12/29/2001 7:49:00 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: beckett; Alamo-Girl; thinden; rdavis84; gumbo; aristeides; Betty Jo; Plummz
I didn't know there was a Crowe - Stephens USNA connection.

Excellent thread.

34 posted on 12/29/2001 7:51:02 PM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: demkicker
Turns out I confused Crowe with Admiral Thomas Moorer. I was thinking of something Moorer wrote about Panama's deal with the Chinese Army's front company, Hutchison Whampoa. Moorer took a position I support in regards to Panama, so I was mistaken to think it had any connection to anything mentioned in this thread.
35 posted on 12/29/2001 8:55:38 PM PST by beckett
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To: Fred Mertz; ALOHA RONNIE; demkicker
Some background and information on Admiral Crowe:

Profile

Jackson Stephens

AIM on BioPort

36 posted on 12/29/2001 9:15:31 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
BUMP and thanks for the information.
37 posted on 12/29/2001 9:57:58 PM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: Snow Bunny
Bump again... maybe by some miracle this will open a few more eyes to the Clinton treachery....BOTH of Them.
38 posted on 12/29/2001 10:25:16 PM PST by Bob Eimiller
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To: beckett
Crowe's good friend and classmate at the Naval Academy was Jackson T. Stephens,

Interesting. Cite handy?

39 posted on 12/29/2001 10:32:07 PM PST by Plummz
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To: Plummz
bump
40 posted on 12/29/2001 10:48:26 PM PST by Bob Eimiller
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To: elenchus
A Hall of Fame thread. Thank you.
41 posted on 12/29/2001 11:14:20 PM PST by Robert Drobot
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To: Fred Mertz
Thanks for the ping.

As chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Crowe lied about the position of the Vincennes when it shot down the Iranian Airbus.

42 posted on 12/30/2001 3:32:04 AM PST by aristeides
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To: bushwon
Scandal train keeps on rolling! When will it ever end?! I wonder how much of this will ever be taught in public schools or be in history textbooks!
I think the only scandal the textbooks may ever mention will be the Monica escapades and the impeachment. The mountain of others will be ignored/overlooked. . .



43 posted on 12/30/2001 4:36:20 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: Plummz
Interesting. Cite handy?

Both were appointed to the Naval Academy in 1942. Crowe graduated in 1946. According to this website poor eyesight prevented Stephens from being commissioned. Their friendship going back to academy days is also mentioned here.

44 posted on 12/30/2001 7:07:33 AM PST by beckett
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To: beckett
Cool, thanks.
45 posted on 12/30/2001 7:57:50 AM PST by Plummz
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To: Plummz
bump for history...
46 posted on 12/30/2001 11:05:37 AM PST by Bob Eimiller
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Not 8th graders but foreigners whose reading comprehension in English was limited - they mounted the anthrax attack. Otherwise you are just adding to the case that a rogue advertising manager at one of the major daily newspapers did it all.
47 posted on 12/30/2001 11:31:08 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
...My Point is that the Terrorist ANTHRAX Targets are so specfically purposeful that the CLINTONS' Link to those same Terrorists is fully exposed for anyone with eyes to see it...

...with a now exposed ANTHRAX Link popping up in this very thread about a Payed-Off Former Admiral who's Endorsement of CLINTON in the 1992 Election got him past his Draft-Dodging past with the Voters.

48 posted on 12/30/2001 12:30:54 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: MeeknMing
How true! Great cartoon!
49 posted on 12/30/2001 12:44:53 PM PST by bushwon
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
wonder what's next from the anthrax scare?
50 posted on 12/30/2001 7:36:49 PM PST by goldilucky
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