Posted on 01/02/2002 1:15:38 PM PST by Theresa
http://members.tripod.com/~C_Verge/Easter/easter.html
And here is a Catholic site with the traditional Stations of the Cross.
http://www.catholic.org/prayer/station.html
About the grace. Oh gosh let's not go there. Catholics and Protestants have different views on grace too. Prayer helps us all. I know we agree on that! Someday we need to do a thread on all the things we agree on.
Becky
Agreed:)
Becky
Either I don't understand your answer or you didn't understand the question, which is probably my fault:) What is the purpose of participating in the service that is called the stations of the cross?
On a thread about what we all agree on. I saw one just today, but I can't remember the title, but if I see it again I will bump it to you. The article was 99.9% right:)IMO.
Becky
you said: Well then you should never ask anyone to pray to Jesus for you. Because if you do, you are using other people to get His ear.
Anyone can pray to Jesus for anything - including other people - however I think you already knew that and were just twisting the comment to inflame me- perhaps I misunderstood you.
To clarify, I dont have to pray to Mary, who will then whisper in the ear of Jesus on my behalf. I can pray directly to Him and He hears me. You are welcome to do otherwise. My point was, anyone can pray directly to Jesus, without the aid of the Blessed Virgin Mother.
May He richly bless you.
Do you mean Roman Catholics believe Osama and the all murderous terrorist are going to be saved? After all they (terrorist) must be very devout Muslims to commit suicide in order to kill others.
Unless you are talking about a special kind o "Catholics" very influential in US who defend and promote homosexuality, are openly pro-death, and at the same time receive holy communion every day, not to mention they elected Clinton, mainly cause their degenerate priests told them to do so.
Are you a Seventh Day Adventist? Just tell me now because I don't want to waste my energy. Anyway Mary is not dead. She is has eternal life in heaven with Jesus. And Catholics are taugh by the Catholic Church not to consult with fortune tellers and the like. From the Catechism of the Catholic Church:
"All forms of divination are to be rejected: recourse to Satan or demons, conjuring up the dead or other practices falsely supposed to "unveil" the future. Consulting horoscopes, astrology, palm reading, interpretation of omens and lots, the phenomena of clairvoyance, and recourse to mediums all conceal a desire for power over time, history, and, in the last analysis, other human beings, as well as a wish to conciliate hidden powers. They contradict the honor, respect, and loving fear that we owe to God alone." (Catechism, #2116)
No I am not a Seventh Day Adventist, just a Fundamental Bible Believer:)
Why would you be wasting energy talking to one?
Do you have scripture to back up your statement about Mary?
Becky
I do! or at least I can find out whenever I need to. I happen to be acquainted with the author. If you would like to know Him too, I believe Becky could introduce you. I do not mean this to be either rude or presumptuous, but your response suggests to me, you have not really met Him yet.
Hank
Okay what is your impression of the context in which Catholic call priests father? And we don't always call priests father. You can call them by their first name if you want to. Most don't mind. They don't call each other father all the time. They call each other by their first names. It's not a command to call a priest father. It's not a sin if you don't. It's not a sin if you do.
The whole thing is a tempest in a teapot.
Wow! I sure would not argue with this. I was not referring to seeking and finding inspiration as private interpretation.
I see your point and we agree.
The purpose to praise and worship Christ.
And for extra credit, to make the point that you must "live" as you "believe", try:
John 3:5,
Titus 3:5,
I Cor 9:27,
Hebrews 10:26,
Philippians 2:12,
2 Cor 5:10,
Rom 2:6, 11:22, 5.2, 8:24,
Col 2:23.
Scripture is loaded with people calling others "Father", here is a scripture verse by St. Paul "For this cause I bow my knees to the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, of whom all paternity in heaven and earth is named" (Eph. 3, 14-15)
The priesthood is a spiritual fatherhood.
Oh I never thought you hated Catholics. I find a lot of inspiration in Protestant devotions. I especially like many of the Protestant hymns and songs. One of my very favorites is Lord of the Dance. It is an old Shaker song I believe.
Thanks for jumping in!
Oh gosh LOL! I spent three months debating one. It would be waste of energy for a Baptist or a Methodist to debate one too. You just have to have gone through it to know what I am talking about.
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