Arms Seizure Backfires, Wounds Israel

STRATFOR ^ | 2120 GMT, 020108 | Staff

[a_witness]

I think Stratfor is trying to say that the captain was an Israeli agent.

There next commercial analysis will say that Arafat was an Israeli agent. Some things never change, until the end.

[cardinal4]

I dont get it,I used to always post from that site.I guess they changed the rules,sorry.

[spycatcher]

I don't give them any slack for the Afghan hand-wringing. Everyone knew going in how our bomb and sensor technology had improved since the Gulf War. And then having reached practical air supremacy within a few days (when the Russians never reached that point in 10 years) I was telling people to watch and marvel at how easy this was going to be. Not necessarily fast (depending on the N.A.) but very easy no matter what, since we weren't planning to occupy the country -- just mercilessly slaughter them with SOF and from the air. I didn't even think I was going out on a limb. Others were saying it too, but not wanting to raise expectations they kept it low-key.

I did predict though that SOF and the CIA would employ all manner of wave propagated lethal and non-lethal weaponry and psyops, which it appears they may not have done. Had they received more resistance they would have gone to the bleeding edge to test new stuff on these lab-rats.

It's almost like Stratfor is trying to shape public opinion lately rather than being objective.

[spycatcher]

Some links for Stratfor's "intelligence analysts" to mull over...

U.S. Intelligence: Weapons Smuggling Ship Was Third to Palestinians

Powell condemns Palestinian arms smuggling

Politics keeping U.S. from blaming PA for arms ship

U.S. suspects Arafat knew of weapons

[Publius6961]

Arms Seizure Backfires, Wounds Israel

Ha h ah ah ha ha ha ha ha
The Muslim/Arabprop Tag Team is working overtime...

I expect to see the Mad Hatter and the Queen of hearts soon...
These losers from an alternate universe are clueless.
They expect to flim flam the whole world? Hmmmmm.

The "Palestinians" have been caught redhanded once again violating every pledge and promise ever made by them.
The Muslim Mass Murderers are self-destructing and inviting somebody to bomb them into oblivion.

[mvonfr]

It's almost like Stratfor is trying to shape public opinion lately rather than being objective.

Hopefully they do not view themselves as that important and this is just a one-time sloppy piece. If you looked at the Stratfor forum, it has a new thread with a number of people asking for the explanation; I do hope Stratfor will find it possible to explain itself and/or withdraw this article.

As for the mis-predictions on the Afghan op: no bad feelings from me, even if they were mostly wrong. Predicting how things would work out in war is difficult; what they wrote was a guesswork and I took it as such. From now on, I'll be surely less trusting.

[Torie]

This piece is totally incoherent and non-sensical. Stratfor sucks. But then I have been saying that since the Kosovo days.

[blackbag]

Stratfor use to be a decent source but they have continued to drop the ball lately. As for this article, it provides zero support for the opinion it promotes... Are they on drugs or what ? Another Debka ? Has Zogby got his fingers in stratfor ?

[blackbag]

Stratfor use to be a decent source but they have continued to drop the ball lately. As for this article, it provides zero support for the opinion it promotes... Are they on drugs or what ? Another Debka ? Has Zogby got his fingers in stratfor ?

[spycatcher]

US State Dept: "Compelling evidence" Arafat knew of arms

[spycatcher]

There was a good reason Stratfor had no support for their position in the article, there was no available facts or rational thought they could use if they wanted to. All the facts and rational thought was actually pointing in the other direction, as has now been proven.

[Francohio]

ATTENTION! All friends of World Islam claiming these weapons had NOT been ordered from Iran by the PLO, or the PA, or the Palestinians, or Hamas, or Hizbullah, LISTEN UP...

You are 100% correct. I ordered them for our Valentine's Day Party and Skeet Shoot out at the Lake. The 23MM tracer rounds are especially good for skeet practice, and when you hit the pigeon with an 81MM Mortar Bomb, there is no doubt about it. Since many of the homes on the opposite shore are unoccupied during the Winter, we hope to keep collateral damage to a minimum. Anyway, we are insured.

I hope this clears up any mystery in your minds about this ordnance. Please, let the Peace Talks continue.

[annalex]

Somehow, both the fact that PA was stupid enough to have its officers on board, and crafty enough not to register the ship directly, are supposed to point to holes in Israel's story.

[monkeyshine]

Stratfor has issued a clarification regarding this article. FYI :

Stratfor tries to repair image, issues damage control "clarification"

[SJackson]

Israel had hoped to achieve a double whammy with the ship seizure. First, it sought to throw a wrench into peace talks. It aimed to ensure that the United States would not push Israel into negotiating a truce at a time when it has the upper hand with Arafat.
Right on the mark.

Do you think protecting their children could have had anything to do with it? I know you approach this from another perspective, but can't you understand that not everyone considers pre-teenagers pre-jihadists? Is it so strange to you that Israel might want to deny Arafat illegal armaments (yes, illegal, even YA acknowledges this, he's signed treaties outlawing these things, which he violates, that's why he denies it now).

I do agree with you Virg, if Israel had let the ship through, they would have been off the mark.