Posted on 01/09/2002 4:48:50 AM PST by Sabertooth
43% of Israelis are THESE VERY SAME JEWS who were booted from Arab nations. Now they live free in Israel instead of as second class dhimmi under the brutal Arabs.
The "mistake" that was made then, and has compounded itself over the past 120 years is that no resettlement plan was made for the few people whom those early Zionists found on the land. They now have increased in number from just a few hundred thousand, to the millions who have somehow discovered that they are a "state" and named themselves the "Palestinians" of today.
Few in the West doubt the Biblical validity of the Israeli claim to their homeland, or the historical absurdity of the 'Palestinian' claim to statehood. But, boil the rhetoric and the religion off the case: most of the descendants of those miserable few people who were on the land, have yet to be resettled somewhere else. IMHO, that has to happen before there is going to be peace.
I once had proposed massive reparations and subsidized homesteading elsewhere in Islam. Arthurus wisely suggested that we call it "Eminent Domain," and get the Palestinians out with compensation in much the same way the state of Ohio is taking 15 acres from me, and more from my neighbors, as we speak. I and my neighbors are not happy with the amount, and neither is the state, but we have had our day in court and it's a done deal. On with life. The law says it's not mine anymore. Period.
Yes, Israel has the Bible on its side. But why not take a truly Solomonic initiative? Couple the Bible with the undoubted force of the IDF and the Law. Get some cash on the table, with some deeds to homesteads elsewhere in the Islamic world, and the promise of endless development money. Handle the 'Palestinian' Problem before their phenomenal birthrate compounds it again.
I think it's worth thinking about for after Arafat. BTW, this is idea has some proponents in Israel, where private investors are buying Arab properties, including a very decent resettlement bonus, and legal help in getting out of Israel. (In the program of which I have some knowledge, the resettlement is to the USA. For some reason, I prefer Northeastern Iraq!)
What's done is done. No Jew is stupid enough to want to return to live in such places as Iraq or Syria. To live under the cruel thumb of Muslim tyrants and you can go ask the Kurds on this one. Give these evicted Jews compensation.
Give the Pallies compensation. And then you have something that might fly. I can tell that until this very day you were oblivious to the 800,000 Jews driven from Arab the lands.
This is not a unique historical situation. It (resettlement) has all been seen before. But before it can happen, at least one team has to be thinking straight.
To be honest some of them weren't booted out of quite a few arab nations however they were treated terribly. Citizenship was removed, property confiscated, but they weren't booted out they left, some even having to remove themselves secretly otherwise the nations involved would keep them there as lower class citizen. It was and is truly appalling. Unfortunately the state of Israel likes to treat arabs the same way, and I am just as appalled. Unfortunately for the palestinian arabs God hasn't seen fit to give then a homeland of their own that they can make a break for so they will just have to make a stand where they are, I suppose....
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Good luck on getting them to agree to anything. War and turmoil are in their blood.
Wouldn't be out of place in Mein Kampf now would it?
These 800,000 Jews were not driven out from Muslim Arab nations and by force made into refugees.
While the Palestinians were driven from Israel.
Is this your logic for today?
I only need to see how Muslims have driven Christians out of Kosovo and Lebanon. How Hindus were driven out of Bangladesh with 1,000,000 killed (1972) to know what really goes on when Muslims eject people from places they have lived in for centuries.
Arab Israelis are citizens of the Israel with equal rights. In 1948, Israel's Declaration of Independence called upon the Arab inhabitants of Israel to "participate in the upbuilding of the State on the basis of full and equal citizenship and due representation in all its provisional and permanent institutions".The political involvement of the Arab sector is manifested through both national and municipal elections. Arab citizens run the political and administrative affairs of their own municipalities and advance Arab interests through their elected representatives in the Knesset, Israel's parliament. Arab Israelis have also held various government positions, including that of deputy minister. At present a member of the Druze community is serving as a government minister.
The Declaration also promises that Israel will "ensure complete equality of social and political rights to all its inhabitants irrespective of religion, race or sex" and guarantees "freedom of religion, conscience, language, education and culture".
Israel has extensive anti-discrimination laws. Moreover, since the founding of the State, the status of Arab Israeli women has been significantly improved by legislation stipulating equal rights for women and prohibition of polygamy and child marriage. Israel remains one of the few countries in the Middle East where women enjoy equality in rights and personal freedoms, including the right to vote and be elected to local and national office.
The only legal distinction between Arab and Jewish citizens is not one of rights, but rather of civic duty. Since Israel's establishment, Arab citizens have been exempted from compulsory service in the Israel Defense Forces (IDF). This exemption was made out of consideration for their family, religious and cultural affiliations with the Palestinians and the rest of the Arab world, given the on-going conflict. Still, volunteer military service is encouraged and IDF service was made mandatory for Druze and Circassian men at the request of their community leaders.
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Oh yeah that holy grail of a Palestinian homeland. That is sure to solve all their problems. For sure. Most people bet that any Pallie homeland just becomes an Afghanistan style terrorist base to make better Muslim Jihad against the Jews of Israel.
Prior to the prophet, Jews and Arabs did indeed live in relative harmony, but when Mohammed failed to convert the Jews to Islam, our proselytizing prophet of peace exterminated at least one Jewish tribe, etched the Holy Koran with anti-Jewish vitriol, and launched centuries of brutality against Jews. Arabs also preceded the Nazis by centuries with that dubious dwelling demarcator, the Jewish ghetto, known in Arabic as the hara or mella.
Following the Arab conquest in the 7th century, Jewish life in the Islamic world became fraught with massacres, blood libel and plunder. Synagogues were regularly torn down, and Jews were impelled to pay special head and property taxes. Meticulously sourced authoritative accounts of Jewish travails over the centuries under Islam are detailed in Joan Peters' seminal work, "From Time Immemorial: The Origins of the Arab-Jewish Conflict Over Palestine." These reveal a population subject to the whim of the particular Muslim ruler, and the degree to which he was committed to implementing the anti-infidel laws of the Holy Koran and the Charter of Omar. Under Islamic religious law, for instance, if a Muslim murdered an infidel, he was liable only for a fine. But even this "blood money" was rarely forthcoming, because the testimony of an infidel was invalid against a Muslim.
In the land that was once Babylonia, the Jews of Iraq weathered the grim vicissitude of a daily life bereft of rights and filled with indignities. Some particularly murderous landmarks stand out: the A.D. 1000 expropriation of Jewish property, the 1333 destruction of their synagogues, and the 1776 Basra slaughter, leading up to mob killings in 1941, and numerous public-square hangings between 1969 and 1973.
The chronicles of Jewish life over the centuries in Aden, Algeria, Tunisia, Morocco, Syria and Libya are similarly marred. As one 19th-century observer recounted, the ancient community of Yemenite Jews was "in a position of inferiority, and is oppressed by a people which declares itself holy and pious but which is very brutal, barbarous and hard-hearted." Of particular note is the murder in 1032 of thousands of Jews in Fez, Morocco, followed, in 1146, by the Almohad atrocities in which hundreds of thousands of Jews and Christians were massacred by the Muslim Almohads.
As Palestinian and Arab propaganda would have it, the Muslim's hate for the Jew is a contemporary phenomenon, caused entirely by the tiny "Zionist state." While the contempt for the dhimmi, as the Jew was derogatorily termed, has morphed over the years – drawing on "traditional Koranic slurs," as well as gathering vintage Nazi debris along the way – the hate boasts a pure Islamic pedigree.
"In 1940, the mufti (a kind of rabbi) of Jerusalem wrote to the Axis powers requesting the right of the Arabs to settle the question of the Jews along similar lines to those used to solve the Jewish question in Germany and Italy." Egyptian Minister Anwar Sadat's touch was somewhat comical. In 1950, Sadat, who may have confused Hitler for Houdini, published an open "Dear Adolph" letter, commending Hitler for "saving the world from this malignant evil."
The kind of warning to the Syrian public in 1964 by a "scholar" from the University of Damascus, to refrain from "letting your children out at night, lest the Jew come and take their blood for the purpose of making matzot for Passover," is still very much within the realm of respected political and intellectual discourse throughout the Arab world. (Incidentally, my mother's matzo balls are nowhere near that labor intensive.) A czarist canard and fraud like "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" has been adopted as Arab lore. Last year, U.N.-funded Muslim pamphleteers handed out "The Protocols" at the "anti-racist" conference in Durban. The charge that Jews are taking over the world joins the deicide charge, and the denial – and justification – of the Holocaust, among Saudis, Egyptians, Palestinian … you name it.
Before Arab leaders realized they had won the propaganda war and could relax, they had frenetically and cunningly been extending specious invites for Arab Jews to return to their homelands. You see, the 1.5 million Jewish refugees from Arab lands could have become a considerable obstacle to the Palestinian propaganda machine had Israel been as conniving as her enemies. Imagine the kind of trump card Israel could have wielded had she, like her uncivilized neighbors, kept these legitimate Jewish refugees in camps, refused to settle them, fomented hate among them for the Arab, and turned the fugitives into political pawns – as Arab nations have so masterfully done to their so-called refugees.
In 1976, these Jewish refugees, represented by the American Sephardi Federation, responded to the wickedly cynical invites with a full-page advertisement in the New York Times. The ad entailed a news service photo that showed a mob of Iraqi onlookers surrounding two bodies suspended from a scaffold. The dangling bodies were those of Sabam Haim, and David Hazaquil, both Jews, hung in Baghdad.
Beneath the photograph the organization responded: "INVITATION DECLINED."
The rest is history. The barbarians, I'm afraid, prevailed.
Perhaps not! I have good news for you...
Though God didn't, the British did give the so-called "Palestinians" a homeland, when they gave them 2/3 of the territory formerly known as "Transjordan," in 1922. The name of that country?
Jordan!
And like "Palestine," "Jordan" is another historical fiction. Prior to 1922, there was never a nation of Jordan.
Nonetheless, there you have your solution, already in place. The "Palestinian" homeland of Jordan, based on the expedience of historical fiction, and the reborn nation of Israel.
I'm glad we've been able to work this out.
Perhaps not! I have good news for you...
Though God didn't, the British did give the so-called "Palestinians" a homeland, when they gave them 2/3 of the territory formerly known as "Transjordan," in 1922. The name of that country?
Jordan!
And like "Palestine," "Jordan" is another historical fiction. Prior to 1922, there was never a nation of Jordan.
Nonetheless, there you have your solution, already in place. The "Palestinian" homeland of Jordan, based on the expedience of historical fiction, and the reborn nation of Israel.
I'm glad we've been able to work this out.
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