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Gun Crimes Surge in London
Salon ^ | 9 Jan 2002 | Ed Johnson

Posted on 01/09/2002 6:36:56 AM PST by white trash redneck

Gun crimes surge in London

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By Ed Johnson

Jan. 9, 2002 | London -- In a country where most police are armed with little more than batons and the closest many people get to crime is a TV drama, criminals with guns have been seen as the kind of problem that afflicts other nations.

But a surge of murders, robberies and assaults involving guns in London, including the mugging of a teen-age girl who was shot in the head for a mobile phone, has shaken Britain's traditional attitude that guns are other peoples' problems.

According to figures released by the London police, muggings involving a firearm have risen by 53 percent, from 435 during the six months ending November 2000 to 667 during the same period last year.

The number of murders with a gun in London jumped by 90 percent during the same time, from 16 to 30. That's a far cry from the 640 murders -- many gun-related -- in New York alone last year, but that figure is way down from the peak of 2,262 in 1992.

Street crime in Britain's capital has also skyrocketed in recent months, with 19,248 robberies reported between September and November 2001, up more than 100 percent from the 8,614 robberies during the same period the previous year.

Much of the crime wave involves a massive rise in the theft of mobile phones. Government figures show that more than 700,000 mobile phones were stolen last year.

Police insist gun violence is largely confined to disputes between criminal gangs and drug dealers.

But an incident on New Year's Day, in which the 19-year-old girl was shot in the head even though she had given up her phone, has raised fear that violence is spilling over into mainstream society.

Three days earlier, a 10-year-old boy was held at gunpoint for a mobile phone and 25 pounds cash ($36) in southeast London.

"Is anyone safe in Britain in 2002?" asked a front-page headline of the Daily Express, as it reported the mobile phone attack.

The Daily Telegraph said people were worried violence is spiraling out of control in Britain. "Police fear a new crime explosion as school-age muggers graduate to guns," it said.

Despite police and government claims that crime is falling nationally, many Londoners are frightened.

"The shooting of this young woman is off the scale of comprehension," said Nigel Whiskin of the charity Crime Concern, which provides advice and help to professional and voluntary agencies working to reduce crime and the fear of crime.

"Quite a large number of people will be very worried about their own personal safety and the safety of their kids. It is very demoralizing for us as a community," he added.

For Charlotte Clarke, a 28-year-old worker for a department store, the shooting was a sign that violence is escalating.

"From a knife to a gun, it's just a step up," said Clarke, who moved from south London to a more fashionable area in the north of the city she thought would be safer.

"I wanted to get away from the violence and the crime, but 18 months down the line there have been stabbings, a mugging right outside my door, friends have had their purses taken and credit cards stolen," she added.

Hand guns were outlawed in Britain in 1997 after the massacre of 16 children and a teacher at a primary school in Dunblane, Scotland. Some 160,000 handguns were surrendered to police.

Dave Rodgers, vice chairman of the Metropolitan Police Federation, said the ban made little difference to the number of guns in the hands of criminals. According to a recent survey, the number of crimes in which a handgun was reported increased nationally from 2,648 in 1997-98 to 3,685 in 1999-2000.

"The underground supply of guns does not seem to have dried up at all," he said.

Professor John Benyon, a criminologist at Leicester University, said that although Britain is still a "relatively low gun-use society," there is a public perception that "we are moving closer toward the problems that America has."

"People are increasingly concerned that we are losing the fight against armed crime," he said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist
The obtuseness of the gun control crowd knows no limits. Rather than illustrating not just the futility of limiting civilian access to firearms, but that this actually makes crime worse, to the gun control nuts the British experience simply indicates the need for... more gun control!!! And, I recall reading elsewhere, limiting ownership of cell phones (a prime target of armed thieves)!
1 posted on 01/09/2002 6:36:57 AM PST by white trash redneck
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To: white trash redneck
Dave Rodgers, vice chairman of the Metropolitan Police Federation, said the ban made little difference to the number of guns in the hands of criminals

duh!

2 posted on 01/09/2002 6:42:15 AM PST by Pete
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To: white trash redneck
I guess the old cliche' "When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns" is not just a cliche' after all.
3 posted on 01/09/2002 6:43:27 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: white trash redneck
It's not the guns, it's the deterioration of the moral fibre of the populace, just as it's happening in this country. Maybe it's time to get back to sending kids to the gym teacher for a little dicipline like we used to do, instead of clamoring for the rights of the poor, misguided little angels. Maybe the censorship of "music" that encourages rape and murder isn't such a bad idea. And then maybe by the time our children are adults, they'll have a moral compass with which to guide them through life.


5 posted on 01/09/2002 6:47:45 AM PST by DinkyDau
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
When will the governments of the world pull their heads out of the sand and realize that people are animals, the strong always thrive off of the weak. The only thing England has done now is make the entire population weak in the eyes of the criminals.
6 posted on 01/09/2002 6:51:08 AM PST by samuel_adams_us
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To: samuel_adams_us

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7 posted on 01/09/2002 6:53:42 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: DinkyDau
"Maybe the censorship of "music" that encourages rape and murder isn't such a bad idea."

Government acting like parents isn't the answer. Parents acting like parents is the answer.

Besides, when you're defending an amendment of the Bill of Rights (2nd), it helps to be consistent and defend them all.

8 posted on 01/09/2002 6:59:14 AM PST by freeeee
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To: Bang_List

10 posted on 01/09/2002 7:16:51 AM PST by AStack75
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To: white trash redneck
Excellent post! Thanks.

Too bad facts,logic, and good ol' common sense will continue to be lost on the "anties".

Regards

11 posted on 01/09/2002 7:34:52 AM PST by Tinman
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To: semper_libertas
Statistical Facts Gun-haters Run From


And just FYI---

-Empty-Barrel Gun Policies-A legacy of nonsense from Clinton, Blair, and the Left--

-A Problem With Guns (Long... but SOOOO good)--

Shooting More Holes in Gun Control

Gun Control Down Under

HCI Aussie Style (read it and weep-or laugh)

The Great Australian Gun Law CON!

British Gun Crime Soars

12 posted on 01/09/2002 7:49:18 AM PST by backhoe
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To: white trash redneck; bang_list
Gun crimes surge in London

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By Ed Johnson

This would have been a great story for British TV anchor Jill Dando, former host of Crimewatch UK — the British version of America’s Most Wanted .

Unfortunately, in April of 1999, she was shot in the head outside her home. It's taken the London coppers more than a year and several million dollars to finally find a loner to pin it on, but whether he's really the killer or just a scapegoat to take the heat of the police, there are plenty of other yobbs out there to take his place, and it's neither a problem for them to come up with weapons, including guns, nor is there any shortage of unarmed victims to use them on.

Several of the recent killings of policemen in Australia have been reported as having had the motive of taking their weapons. I expect that'll come to the Brits as their arming of police becomes more widespread as well.

Details and other UK crime links *here*.

13 posted on 01/09/2002 8:14:54 AM PST by archy
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To: freeeee
There was a time in this country when lyrics of that sort wouldn't even be considered, let alone tolerated. Maybe "censorship" wasn't the right word. Maybe responsibility on the part of execs, or an industry code would be more appropriate.
14 posted on 01/09/2002 12:07:22 PM PST by DinkyDau
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To: semper_libertas
How about an article titled ...

CCW shall issue drops US crime rate.

True everywhere it has been tried.

tarpon

15 posted on 01/09/2002 12:18:01 PM PST by tarpon_bill
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