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SUPPORT Public Display of TEN COMMANDMENTS
David C. Osborne ^ | TODAY | David C. Osborne

Posted on 01/19/2002 6:01:11 AM PST by davidosborne

Click here to sign petition to "SUPPORT the PUBLIC display of the TEN COMMANDMENTS"...

FReegards,

David


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Passing it on..
1 posted on 01/19/2002 6:01:11 AM PST by davidosborne (public@davidosborne.net)
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To: Jim Robinson;archy;4TheFlag; Aeronaut; summer ;Ragtime Cowgirl;Saundra Duffy;Flyer; RightOnline...
Passing it on..
2 posted on 01/19/2002 6:02:26 AM PST by davidosborne
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To: davidosborne
Good morning, sir. Thanks for the ping.
3 posted on 01/19/2002 6:05:51 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
I am doing well thank you, I am enrolled in an "EMT" course on Eagle Base is taking up some of my time usually spent "online" maybe this is a good thing in light of recent threads..

FReegards,

and God Bless,

David

4 posted on 01/19/2002 6:27:45 AM PST by davidosborne
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To: davidosborne
Thats great about the EMT course. You'll learn valuable information that could come in handy one day.

I already knew about The Ten Commandments project. I think they should just go ahead and put the statue up, and force those heathens to stop them.

5 posted on 01/19/2002 6:46:36 AM PST by Aquamarine
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To: davidosborne
Please take me off your ping list. Second request. Thank you.
6 posted on 01/19/2002 7:25:15 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: davidosborne
BTTT!
7 posted on 01/19/2002 9:05:35 AM PST by Salvation
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To: davidosborne
Done!
8 posted on 01/19/2002 9:19:23 AM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: davidosborne
Thanks for the ping, David.
9 posted on 01/19/2002 10:48:32 AM PST by theirjustdue
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To: theirjustdue
Thank so much for you help in getting the word out on this important grassroots effort..

FReegards,

David

10 posted on 01/20/2002 5:12:14 AM PST by davidosborne
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To: Texas_Jarhead
Thank so much for you help in getting the word out on this important grassroots effort..

FReegards,

David

11 posted on 01/20/2002 5:12:38 AM PST by davidosborne
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To: Salvation
Thank so much for you help in getting the word out on this important grassroots effort..

FReegards,

David

12 posted on 01/20/2002 5:13:04 AM PST by davidosborne
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To: Aquamarine
Thank so much for you help in getting the word out on this important grassroots effort..

FReegards,

David

P.S. I am really learning a lot in this EMT course, and I look foward to oportunites to use what I learned..

13 posted on 01/20/2002 5:14:21 AM PST by davidosborne
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To: davidosborne
Thanks for the Ping
Petition signed.
14 posted on 01/20/2002 6:28:51 AM PST by Fiddlstix
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To: davidosborne
Signed and bumped.

W.K.

15 posted on 01/20/2002 7:07:49 AM PST by WhiteKnight
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To: davidosborne
Signed & Bump!
16 posted on 01/20/2002 9:23:39 AM PST by firewalk
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To: WhiteKnight
Thank you ALL very much, and please pass it on to your "e-mail" address book..

David

17 posted on 01/20/2002 11:18:47 AM PST by davidosborne
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To: davidosborne
bttt
18 posted on 01/21/2002 3:33:18 AM PST by wwjdn
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To: wwjdn;Jim Robinson;archy;4TheFlag; Aeronaut; summer ;Ragtime Cowgirl;Saundra Duffy;Flyer...
This thread, more importantly THIS LINK..... needs to be dissiminated FAR and WIDE, Please e-mail THIS LINK..... to everyone on your contact list..

FReegards,

David

Please FReepmail me if you want ON or OFF my "ping" list

19 posted on 01/23/2002 12:46:06 AM PST by davidosborne
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To: Aquamarine
I already knew about The Ten Commandments project. I think they should just go ahead and put the statue up, and force those heathens to stop them.

While I agree with you, I think it is ALSO important to get as many people taking a PUBLIC stand as possible because that is the only way our elected officials will know that it is not just a "few" people who think this is important..

FReegards,

David

Have you signed?

20 posted on 01/23/2002 1:12:51 AM PST by davidosborne
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To: davidosborne
signed the petition today, thanks
21 posted on 01/23/2002 3:55:39 AM PST by wwjdn
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To: wwjdn
Bump this one!
22 posted on 01/23/2002 5:18:46 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer
I am
23 posted on 01/23/2002 5:22:50 AM PST by wwjdn
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To: davidosborne
SUPPORT Public Display of TEN COMMANDMENTS

Why?

24 posted on 01/23/2002 5:24:15 AM PST by OWK
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To: davidosborne
Plus, we expect Congress to take up a bill called the "Ten Commandments Protection Act" that will allow our communities to publicly display the Ten Commandments as a symbol of the faith and values needed to heal our land.

Do you have any idea how wrong this is?

26 posted on 01/23/2002 5:36:38 AM PST by OWK
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To: OWK
Your screen name should be OWdKs.
27 posted on 01/23/2002 5:39:37 AM PST by itsoversoon
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To: davidosborne
You are asking congress to pass legislation empowering communities to compel an unwilling minority to fork over money, so that public monuments can be built proclaiming that people shall have no other God, than the God of Abraham?

Don't you recognize the immoral nature of such an act?

If you want such monuments, get off your lazy butt, collect the money, and build them yourself.... privately.

Don't steal my money to promote your faith.

28 posted on 01/23/2002 5:40:58 AM PST by OWK
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To: itsoversoon
Your screen name should be OWdKs.

Wow... did you think that one up all by yourself?

29 posted on 01/23/2002 5:41:58 AM PST by OWK
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To: Coriander
Are you suggesting that the 10 commandments is UNCONSTITUTIONAL?
30 posted on 01/23/2002 5:44:14 AM PST by davidosborne
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To: OWK
"We have staked our VERY EXISTENCE as a Nation on our ability to obey the TEN COMMANDMENTS"...

James Maddison

Thank God, you were not one of our Founding Fathers, otherwise America may just be another British Colony..

FReegards,

David

32 posted on 01/23/2002 5:47:12 AM PST by davidosborne
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To: OWK
Where exactly has it been said that any "public" money should be used?
33 posted on 01/23/2002 5:50:59 AM PST by wattsmag2
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To: hedgetrimmer;wwjd
Thank you..

David

34 posted on 01/23/2002 5:51:41 AM PST by davidosborne
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To: davidosborne
"We have staked our VERY EXISTENCE as a Nation on our ability to obey the TEN COMMANDMENTS"... James Maddison
Madison never said such a thing: American History Rewritten By Christians

Posting the Ten Commandments as something that's part of our history isn't forbidden, any more than it is to post the Magna Carta or the Hammurabic Code.

Posting them as something the government endorses gives the wrong message at best. The First Amendment forbids government from interfering in the worship of other Gods, the making of graven images, or working on the Sabbath.

-Eric

35 posted on 01/23/2002 5:53:59 AM PST by E Rocc
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To: E Rocc
Your "tactics" of arguing falls somewhat to the LEFT of center.. Do you ALSO think the BIBLE was RE-WRITTEN by Christians? Or the Divine inspired Word of God?

David

36 posted on 01/23/2002 5:59:00 AM PST by davidosborne
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To: davidosborne
"We have staked our VERY EXISTENCE as a Nation on our ability to obey the TEN COMMANDMENTS"...
James Maddison

And you will of course notice that one of those very commandments is THOU SHALT NOT STEAL.

Not even to promote your religious faith.

Taking money from unwilling people to promote your religious faith is theft. Even if you have the government do it for you. The majority is not entitled to rob the minority to promote it's religion.

Try actually practicing the faith you claim.

37 posted on 01/23/2002 5:59:47 AM PST by OWK
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To: OWK
I would argue that the "public display of the Ten Commandments" is NOT an "establishment" of religion, nor does it in ANY way FORCE any religion on ANYBODY.. More accurately it is an affirmation of our HERRITAGE... IMHO it is the single most IMPORTANT "SYMBOL" of the principles that our Nation was founded on...

You are certainly entitled to your opinion, and you certainly are free to REJECT the truth of scripture and suffer the consequences of your FREE WILL decision..

FReegards,

David

38 posted on 01/23/2002 6:04:56 AM PST by davidosborne
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To: OWK
Taking money from unwilling people to promote your religious faith is theft. Even if you have the government do it for you. The majority is not entitled to rob the minority to promote it's religion

IMHO you defination of "THEFT" is not accurate, maybe you need to re-read your law books... And your definition of "promote it's religion" is certainly out of context.... again IMHO...

FReegards,

David

39 posted on 01/23/2002 6:08:51 AM PST by davidosborne
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To: davidosborne
Using public money or public facilities forces people to support a religion they may not agree with.
40 posted on 01/23/2002 6:09:15 AM PST by gjenkins
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To: davidosborne
IYHO what does the word theft mean? Is it a word that just doesn't apply to government?
41 posted on 01/23/2002 6:11:19 AM PST by gjenkins
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To: davidosborne
IMHO you defination of "THEFT" is not accurate, maybe you need to re-read your law books...

Of course that's your opinion... You're advocating theft...

What else would you say?

But taking a person's property against their will is theft nevertheless...

And using your ill-gotten gains for a purpose the victim of theft opposes, is doubly immoral.

The fact that you smile and talk about Jesus while robbing your neighbors, does not absolve you of guilt for the act.

42 posted on 01/23/2002 6:15:29 AM PST by OWK
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To: davidosborne
bump!
43 posted on 01/23/2002 6:15:53 AM PST by homeschool mama
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To: gjenkins
So. are you saying that if ONE person (citizen or elected official) does not agree with an expenditure than the money should NOT be spent?

I can't remember the last time something passed UNANIMOUSLY.. Oh yeah "The Patriot Act" not 100-0 But close enough..

God Bless America!!

44 posted on 01/23/2002 6:17:08 AM PST by davidosborne
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To: davidosborne
I would argue that the "public display of the Ten Commandments" is NOT an "establishment" of religion, nor does it in ANY way FORCE any religion on ANYBODY..

Then why do you insist on compelling your neighbors to pay for it with government force?

Why not just collect the money yourself, and erect such monuments privately?

That would be the moral way to pursue your dream.

But of course that would take REAL work... and it's easier to have government rob your neighbors.

45 posted on 01/23/2002 6:18:19 AM PST by OWK
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Are you saying that you would SUPPORT the Public Display of the Ten Commandments if the items were purchased by "PRIVATE DONATIONS"...?

David

46 posted on 01/23/2002 6:19:06 AM PST by davidosborne
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To: OWK
Why not just collect the money yourself, and erect such monuments privately?

That would be the moral way to pursue your dream.

But of course that would take REAL work... and it's easier to have government rob your neighbors.

I think your ideas are GREAT.. I know I can count on you for a Donation !

God Bless You,

David

48 posted on 01/23/2002 6:21:54 AM PST by davidosborne
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To: davidosborne
So. are you saying that if ONE person (citizen or elected official) does not agree with an expenditure than the money should NOT be spent?

I'm saying government has no morally legitimate business in ANY role, other than the defense of rights.

It shouldn't be sloganeering.
It shouldn't be promoting religions.
It shouldn't be handing out money in social programs.
It shouldn't be telling free men what they are allowed to eat and drink.
It shouldn't be prohibiting the ownership of inanimate objects like firearms.
It shouldn't be building monuments.
it shouldn't be promoting the arts.
It shouldn't be promoting the sciences.
It shouldn't be telling free men who they must associate with.

It should be defending individual rights.

That's it.

49 posted on 01/23/2002 6:22:52 AM PST by OWK
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To: Central Scrutiniser
see post 48
50 posted on 01/23/2002 6:23:05 AM PST by davidosborne
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