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New GOP Finance Chairman Chosen Over Conservatives' Protests
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| 1/21/02
| Fred Jackson
Posted on 01/21/2002 12:39:33 PM PST by truthandlife
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To: Dane, Kevin Curry, Cultural Jihad
Eisenberg is a founder of the liberal, pro-choice Republican Leadership Council, a group whose aim, according to pro-life Republicans, to purge them from the Party by raising money for liberal Republican candidates. And the Republican party stands for what?
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posted on
01/21/2002 12:44:44 PM PST
by
Eagle Eye
To: Eagle Eye
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posted on
01/21/2002 12:50:20 PM PST
by
Dane
To: Dane
So what are we to believe? What he says he (Bush) is going to do, or what he actually does?
To: Dane
It's pretty sad when the GOP chooses someone with a 7-year affair and sexual harrassment settlement in their past to represent the party. This may come back to bite us.
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posted on
01/21/2002 1:00:03 PM PST
by
DrewsDad
To: Dane
Words are cheap. The clintonites get Eisenberg, conservatives are thrown a bone.
To: Cacophonous
Yes.... will Lewis Eisenberg now be helping to recruit and fund RINO GOP hopefuls??
To: Dane
Eisenberg is good at fund raising. Wow, you sound like the Democrats. Even though Bill Clinton was a rapist and had oral sex in the oval office and lied about it, he has been doing such a great job. We need four more years. Anyway your private life has nothing to do with the way you do your job (Sarcasm off).
To: truthandlife
"...the proper role for Party liberals is to raise money to support the goals of conservatives. Sooo... the question follows... what's the role of conservatives in the GOP these days?
And if anybody has a problem with this discussion being a repeat of last week's discussion, keep in mind that the decesion was still pending then. It's a whole new topic. What to do now?
To: Dane; Eagle Eye
Always looking for a flame aren't you - Dane Oh sweet, delicious irony...
To: truthandlife; goldstategop; Cacophonous; DrewsDad; monkeywrench
Look you all can wring your hands and discuss what ifs until the cows come home(and that is fine with me), but I am going to trust Bush and not micromanage every step.
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posted on
01/21/2002 1:10:18 PM PST
by
Dane
To: Dane
I hope this works out well for them. They lose my support. I don't give to causes I don't believe in.
To: DrewsDad
Liberals are supposed to be so good at fundraising, the so-called conservatives hire them. I hear that NAMBLA guys are really good at organizing camping trips for boys. I don't see the Boy Scouts hiring them.
To: truthandlife
I'm not a fan of the RLC(not to be confused with Republican Liberty Caucus which I support) at all, but all I care about is that if this guy can raise money for all GOP candidates. That is his job.
If he can do a good job, then fine by me. Would I vote for him for political office - no.
To: Dane
"Look you all can wring your hands and discuss what ifs until the cows come home(and that is fine with me), but I am going to trust Bush and not micromanage every step." The president will be really relieved to hear you say that. I'm sure he was very worried.
As for me, I never intended to manage anything. I simply came hear to say that his decision sucks.
To: Dane
We actually sort of agree. What's going on here???
To: All
As a loyal Republican and conservative Christian, this appointment is not my favorite choice, but then again, not everyone in the Republican Party is a Christian like me. I have no problem with that. If the GOP consists of Christians only, it would be a minority party. But overall, it is more conservative than the Democratic Party and their nominees are electable, something beyond the comprehension of third party purists. Does this person have absolute control over everything in the GOP? Of course not. But some posters on here exist only to criticize the GOP and the conservatives within it, yet provide dead-end streets for alternatives (Libertarian, Constitution Parties), if they provide one at all. You can't please everyone, but these anti-GOP conservatives (so-called) take the cake.....
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posted on
01/21/2002 1:15:52 PM PST
by
Malcolm
To: Harrison Bergeron
what's the role of conservatives in the GOP these days? I think the role that the Republicans want conservatives to play is just to get in line because they believe conservatives have no where else to go. That is wrong! They will stay home in '02 and '04 the Republican establishment will again blame conservatives for losing.
1. Democrats ALWAYS get the same turnout
2. The Republican vote VARIES GREATLY based on the turnout of conservative base voters
Democrats have gotten virtually identical turnouts in each of the last five presidential elections. The following chart dramatically illustrates this startling fact:
|
1980 |
1984 |
1988 |
1992 |
1996 |
Voting age population in millions |
157.6 |
172.8 |
180.7 |
185.6 |
194.8 |
Democrat votes in millions |
35.5 |
37.5 |
41.8 |
44.8 |
45.6 |
Percent of Democrat votes |
23% |
22% |
23% |
24% |
23% |
It is the Republican message -- and its effect on the conservative base -- that determines Republican success in presidential elections.
The fundamental reason for the victories of Ronald Reagan (1980 and 1984) and George H.W. Bush (1988) is that they ran on a solid conservative agenda that was easily understood, and believed, by conservative base voters.
Both President Bush (1992) and Bob Dole (1996) lost because their campaigns lacked conservative credibility, resulting in fewer Republican votes as the conservative base abandoned them by either staying home or registering a protest vote for Ross Perot.
Rove said that one reason the 2000 election was so tight was that as many as 4 million Christian conservatives did not go to the polls, reported "The Chicago Tribune." Although the Bush campaign had expected 19 million evangelical voters to vote for their man, election returns revealed only 15 million turned out to cast ballots.
Republicans must present an easily-understood, credible conservative agenda. When we do, we win; when we do not, we lose. I am sorry but Christian conservatives still have strong influence in politics whether you like it or not.
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To: Dan from Michigan
Didn't we hear the same line of reasoning from the Democrats? As long as we have a good economy, I don't care if he has raped anyone or had oral sex with anybody in the oval office.
To: truthandlife
This is a real slap in the face for true conservative Republicans.
WHY was he appointed? That is the question.
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posted on
01/21/2002 1:21:13 PM PST
by
mickie
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