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The Missing Gun
New York Post ^ | 25 January 2002 | John Lott

Posted on 01/25/2002 9:07:46 PM PST by mrustow

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:03:37 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

By JOHN R. LOTT, JR.

January 25, 2002 -- ANOTHER school shooting occurred last week and the headlines were everywhere the same, from Australia to Nigeria. This time the shooting occurred at a university, the Appalachian Law School. As usual, there were calls for more gun control.


(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; ccrm; libertarians
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Way to go, John Lott! I hadn't known the true story of this shooting at all, before Lott told it.
1 posted on 01/25/2002 9:07:46 PM PST by mrustow
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To: mrustow
I actually read that fact in the piece MSNBC put online. Curious, Dr. Lott doesn't mention here that Tracy Bridges is an active sheriff deputy.
2 posted on 01/25/2002 9:43:45 PM PST by americalost
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To: mrustow
Hmmm... Is Lott a lurker? There have been several threads here noting the dearth of reporting on the defending students' guns.
3 posted on 01/25/2002 9:48:22 PM PST by Redcloak
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To: Redcloak
Hm.. Could be. Either here and/or KABA. They were all over that aspect (or lack thereof) of the story, as well.
4 posted on 01/25/2002 9:56:02 PM PST by americalost
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To: americalost
Either he didn't know it, or an editor cut it for space reasons.
5 posted on 01/25/2002 10:36:32 PM PST by mrustow
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To: Redcloak
He could well be a lurker, have an assistant who does his lurking for him, or simply have friends who are FReepers, who send him material they pick up on FR.
6 posted on 01/25/2002 10:37:57 PM PST by mrustow
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To: americalost
What's "KABA"?
7 posted on 01/25/2002 10:38:24 PM PST by mrustow
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To: mrustow
Oh yea, this is a BIG ol' bump!
8 posted on 01/25/2002 10:38:52 PM PST by TLI
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To: mrustow
KABA is KeepAndBearArms.com

I've been checking there a looong time. All Gun News, All The Time!

9 posted on 01/25/2002 10:44:40 PM PST by americalost
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To: mrustow
From the nbc6 (a Charlotte tv station) web site ... a story from the Charlotte Observer:

1/18/02 Ex-Charlottean: I helped nab suspect

By Diane Suchetka
The Charlotte Observer

One of the four students who subdued a gunman at the Appalachian School of Law in Virginia on Wednesday is an N.C. native and former Charlottean.

Mikael Gross, 34, a first-year student at the small school in Grundy, Va., told The Observer he worked as a state alcohol law enforcement agent in Charlotte from 1996 until 1998 and earned a master's degree in criminal justice at UNC Charlotte in 1997.

Two other men who helped bring the gunman under control also have worked as law enforcement officers in North Carolina - in Asheville and Wilmington, Gross said.

Gross was walking back to the law school from lunch just after 1p.m. Wednesday with four classmates when he heard a gunshot. He yelled to the others to take cover and watched as students ran from a student lounge in the administration building.

"People were running everywhere," Gross said. "They were jumping behind cars, running out in front of traffic, trying to get away."

Gross ran to his car, parked about 100 yards away, without dropping the gunman from his sight, grabbed his bullet-proof vest from his trunk and a gun from under his front seat.

While the man pointed his gun at fellow students, Gross and two others ran toward him from different directions.

One of the others was Tracy Bridges, a Buncombe County sheriff's deputy from Asheville, who also had his gun, Gross said.

When the gunman saw them, Gross said, he put his weapon down and his hands up.

The third man, Ted Besen, who has worked as a police officer in Wilmington, was not armed and ordered the gunman onto the ground. Instead, the gunman lunged at Besen, punching him in the face.

That's when a fourth student ran up and tackled the gunman. Gross and Bridges jumped on the gunman, pulled his hands behind his back and held him as he tried to fight them off.

When the gunman was under control, Gross ran back to his car for his handcuffs. Police arrived a minute or so later, he said.

Afterward Gross and the others headed into the administration building to help those who had been shot.

"There was blood everywhere," Gross said. "It looked like somebody had mopped the floor with blood."

They put some of the injured onto folding tables turned into gurneys, loaded them into SUVs and drove them to the hospital.

"I let my instinct kick in and did what any good law enforcement officer would do, what any good person would do," he said.

Gross, who graduated from Oak Ridge Military Academy in Oak Ridge in 1985 and East Carolina University in 1989, has also lived in Raleigh, Burlington and several other N.C. cities.

He worked as the director of police corps training at the N.C. Justice Academy in 1998 and 1999, he said, and the chief of police at Brevard College before heading to law school in August .

During breaks from law school, he works as a police officer in Grifton. His mother, Cecilia Wicker, lives in Charlotte.

(Emphasis mine.)

Wonder how many more would have been killed or wounded before the police got there if not for the actions of these men ... and the fact that they had weapons nearby.

10 posted on 01/25/2002 10:53:08 PM PST by kayak
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"if not for the actions of these men ...
and the fact that they had weapons nearby."

Action being taken and weapons in hand.

Nope, not gonna be seeing any "specials" or lead stories on "48 Hours" regarding this.

I, on the other hand will probably be emailing this story to certain "special" recipients for the next couple of years.

 

11 posted on 01/26/2002 7:26:35 AM PST by TLI
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To: TLI
Bumpbackatcha!
12 posted on 01/26/2002 10:46:46 AM PST by mrustow
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To: americalost
Thanks for the great link! Just copied and "favorited" it.
13 posted on 01/26/2002 10:48:25 AM PST by mrustow
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To: kayak
Thanks for the great post. Since the armed defenders were all LEOs or former LEOs, it seems to me, that the national media should have had no compunctions about telling the straight story. Maybe I'm overinterpreting here, but the mass media's refusal to report the full story appears to me to be due to an anti-Second Amendment phobia that runs so deep, that even LEOs using guns to apprehend criminals may be a no-no. (Remember, too, that although the shooter was an African, he's still a black man, which may have colored -- pun intended -- the media response.)
14 posted on 01/26/2002 10:54:41 AM PST by mrustow
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To: Fred25; ouroboros; ChaseR; A.J.Armitage; kattracks; mafree; B-52bomber; gonzo; Sabertooth...
Second Amendment bump!
15 posted on 01/26/2002 10:57:03 AM PST by mrustow
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To: rb22982; My Favorite Headache; Squire; snopercod; Arleigh; ppaul; Publius; Brian Allen; beowolf...
Second Amendment BUMP!
16 posted on 01/26/2002 10:58:53 AM PST by mrustow
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To: Doctor Stochastic; RikaStrom; ctonious; Cincinatus' Wife; dubyaismypresident; bulldog905; Askel5...
Second Amendment BUMP
17 posted on 01/26/2002 11:01:57 AM PST by mrustow
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To: mrustow
Major Bump
18 posted on 01/26/2002 11:02:28 AM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: mrustow
If all American citizens over the age of 21 were allowed to carry concealed handguns, our country would be virtually void of violent crime.

Some of you may recoil from my contention, but remember:

AN ARMED SOCIETY IS A POLITE SOCIETY.

19 posted on 01/26/2002 11:02:55 AM PST by ASTM366
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To: timestax; Lavrenti; Squire; lightning; Cicero; The Engineer; dfwgator; stocksthatgoup; beowolf...
Second Amednment BUMP!
20 posted on 01/26/2002 11:05:35 AM PST by mrustow
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