Posted on 01/26/2002 8:49:48 AM PST by Your Vast Superior
In her book Changing of the Gods: Feminism And The End of Traditional Religions, feminist theologian Naomi R. Goldenberg wrote:
God is going to change...We women are going to bring an end to God. As we take positions in government, in medicine, in law, in business, in the arts and, finally, in religion, we will be the end of Him. We will change the world so much that He won't fit in anymore.
She went on to write:
Every woman working to improve her own position in society or that of women in general is bringing about the end of God. All feminists are making the world less and less like the one described in the Bible and are thus helping to lessen the influence of Christ and [Jehovah] on humanity.
She concluded with these insightful, but sobering, thoughts:
Can we predict anything about the new gods of the new age, except to say there will be many of them?
When we study the religious thought of those who have already outgrown the father-god—the witches, the radical feminists, the modern psychologists—we see a direction inward. All of these people tend to place their gods within themselves, to focus on spiritual processes whose values they experience internally. Judging from these harbingers of our new religious culture, the psycho-religious age will be a mystical one. It seems highly likely that the West is on the brink of developing a new mysticism—post-Christian, post-Judaic.
The inward journey Ms. Goldenberg wrote about back in 1979 is nothing but paganism. The purpose of this rather lengthy study is to effectively document the dark nature of radical feminism in our society today.
Back in April of 1978, an accredited study program entitled “The Great Goddess Re-emerges” was held at the University of California at Santa Cruz. Women had to be turned away from the course, which could only accommodate 450 students. The following excerpts from a Los Angeles Times article inform us as to what took place during the study program.
...eerie monotones...reverberated on the UC Santa Cruz campus. Cheers and whoops went up for the goddesses of yore—Isis, Astara, Demeter, Artemis, etc.
...the event was indicative of a burgeoning spiritual dimension to the women's liberation movement in America....
Christine Downing, head of San Diego State University's religious studies department, estimates that many—if not most—spiritually sensitive women in the women's movement are willing to replace the Biblical God with a frankly pagan and polytheistic approach.
Witchcraft is aiding the women in their search for roots and rituals—without the connotations of evil usually associated with witchcraft.
A Santa Cruz woman...said, “Some of the women think of themselves as witches, but not all.”
A brief, unscheduled appearance—met with enthusiastic applause—was made by Z. Budapest. A self-described witch...the goddess movement knows her more as a leader of the Susan B. Anthony Coven No. 1 in Los Angeles and a charismatic spokeswoman for a feminist brand of Wicca, an ancient women's religion [witchcraft].
The goddess movement, also called the women-spirit movement, apparently considers its first major gathering to have been a conference attended by about 1,200 women at the University of Massachusetts in late 1975...
The ancient Mediterranean world, pagan Europe, Native America and Hindu traditions are all sources for goddess imagery, Dr. Christ (rhymes with “grist”) said. (Dr. Christ is head of San Jose State University's women's studies program.)
A religious phenomenon virtually unknown outside feminist circles, “goddess consciousness” will be widely known in three to five years, predicted Dr. Christ.1
In a MS. magazine article, Karen Linsey, who rejects the God revealed in the Bible and who has, herself, dabbled in witchcraft, wrote:
The Feminist spirituality movement began to emerge in the mid-1970s and has become one of the largest submovements within feminism. It's amorphous, blending radical feminism, pacifism, witchcraft, Eastern mysticism, goddess worship, animism, psychic healing and a variety of practices normally associated with the occult.2
What the hell's up with that?
... In a MS. magazine article, Karen Linsey, who rejects the God revealed in the Bible and who has, herself, dabbled in witchcraft, wrote ...When Wiccans begin organizing themselves into terror cells and calling for a Jihad against the United States, then I'll care. Until then, you can be a straight-up satanist and I'll probably still ask you to watch the game with me on Sunday.
The bible is 100% true and tells me that Jesus is the truth the way and the life and that Jesus is the son of God. In fact, he was God himself in human form on the earth. It tells me that you are the one who is wrong. The Holy Bible is my guide as a Christian. It tells me that Christianity is the one true religion and there is much proof to attest to that fact. You better get right with the Lord before its too late.
No it isn't. Honest practioners of it freely admit that it's a modern creation based on what they imagine pre-Christian religion to have been like.
And to be blunt, who really cares what Wiccans think, except for a few crackpots who think God can't survive without their help?
As for me, I trust the Bible, millions have tried to disprove it and none have succeeded. Can't say that for the Wicca. Not to mention that Wicca is not older than Christianity, where do you get your facts?
"Christians who insist on believing their religious superiority should simply ask themselves: What if the Jews are right and Christ wasnt the Son of God?"WHAT IF JESUS IS RIGHT??
The inward journey Ms. Goldenberg wrote about back in 1979 is nothing but paganism.
Ms. Goldenberg is a dangerous loon, but Harry Potter is not the source of all evil. You may argue that it's a symptom, a product, a result (and we all know where those arguments will take us on FR) of the work of this woman and her ilk, but don't just stir up trouble by citing it as the source.
These idiots know nothing about Susan B. Anthony.
Many apologies for my misdirectedness.
Feels to me like you're grasping at something to justify your ambitions. There is no relation between Women and Goddess. Diety has no gender.
The real truth is that the standard of living has improved a great deal since the pre rennaisance "burning times". Humans have actually evolved to the have the capacity of verbal communication, and even speech between the genders! It is a great time to be alive.
The mindset of feminists is more like gathering of protestors then people with an actual plan. Hoping to drive males out of existence with our blood curdling screams, we accomplish a much needed cathartic, but nothing more. Women who indulge in Satanic Rites they are sick people seeking justice for injustice. These are not people trying to enact a divine plan of happiness. Usually they were led astray by men who wanted to have sex with them, or use them their vulnerability to their own advantage. They are people who are demonized by resentment and regret. Many pagans point out that this type of woman should get therapy, and heal herself of the wounds men have enflicted on her. But this is how witchcraft flies into the social order, driving normal christian women into the man's world where they are told by their superiors in "the covenhood of women" that they have to do man's labor, sieze power, secure power for The Goddess, and at the same time stay cute and feminine, and sexy. You see that this is not the order of the Goddess. These are the fires that flow from "strong" angry women, who are not in fact strong, but are survivors of very abusive and harsh conditions.
Remember what Atlan said in the Narnian Chronicals. "War does terrible things to men, it is even uglier what it does to women" These pagan motivations have never changed. Women who have participated closely in war have always spoken about "The Terrible Men" and how someday Goddess will stop them of their warring.
President Bush was elected mostly by women, and mostly because women could not "keep the fight up any longer". They elected him because they want a more domestic lifestyle. They want their marriages to work and not fail. They want their husbands to be faithful and monogamous. Contrary to the fires that flow the thought process of Hillary Clinton is understood only to Hillary Clinton. The rest of us females were designed to love and nurture our families. We don't care very much about her issues and her resentments. We have very different lives.
We understand that we can change our nature through, cloning, abortion, gay sex, and witchcraft, and we all feel the angst of being a women. We are here with you. But those practices and behaviors are not easy to grasp at the heart level, they are not very well understood by our incomprehensible minds. Those who do "Run through the fire" are so bewildered and confused afterward, that they eventually regret their positions of power, prefering to return to the simple cunning of "common woman"
Since the election there has been a lot of scholarly psychological help and advice to women who were swept up in the 1990's feminist movement. Women have spoken out against other women. "Cats make better mothers than that bitch" I happened to overhear at a party. "Women do not have to be men" I read in the LA Times. This is ridiculous...
This "End to God" will never happen. The pagan dieties that live today are the same that lived in ancient times. The pagan rites of today are no different than those of ancient times. If this event happens at all, it is for the individual only. There are no new gods, and the situation is the same as ever.
There has always existed the Tao
There has always been a Feminist assault on God. Its in the bible. God made us that way.
There have always been countries
There have always been wars
there has always been homosexuality, abortion, and cloning.
There have always been Space People...E.T.
there has always been famine, drought, poverty and homelessness
there has always been a New Age Movement.
there will always be...
You might as well just say "Satan has been around longer than Christianity" since he inspired all false religion that does not procalim Jesus Christ. Satan was created; Jesus was "with God in the beginning". Big difference.
The evil one has worked many religious schemes on humanity starting with the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. "Christianity" describes the church under the rule of Jesus Christ who ascended into heaven after his crucifixion, burial, and appearance to his disciples. To me it's the only true "religion" in existence, because it is the only one with a Living God behind it. The others are all Satan/Man-made.
The movement has always been delusional--one of the most aggravated of the Leftist wars on reality. (See The Feminist Absurdity.)
That after many decades of denying reality on earth, they would now move to recreate God in a total inversion of Creation, shows how really looney they are. (I will leave the completely blasphemous implications of this, and the possibility of more dire consequnces than were sustained when one of these dear hearts denounced her father or mother, for criticizing her bizarre behavior in high school, to others.)
William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site
Yeah, right. Nero couldn't do it. Nestorius couldn't do it. Arius, Saladin, and Attila couldn't do it. Voltaire tried and failed. Nietzche is dead. Darwin has reverted to the primordial ooze whence he sprang. Marx is roasting on a spit in Hell next to Stalin and Lenin. Hitler is one floor down in the Pol Pot Suite. Funny, it seems that every time someone predicts the death of God, it's always the one doing the predicting that ends up vanishing from the scene.
So give it your best shot, Naomi. My money's on the Lord.
I bet a lot of other people consider them witches too. No pictures please.
A religious phenomenon virtually unknown outside feminist circles, “goddess consciousness” will be widely known in three to five years, predicted Dr. Christ.1
That's funny...I don't care how you pronounce that name...that's funny, and God does work in mysterious ways.
I think a new term is in order here: religious-relativism.
Don't think so. Christ proved what He claimed.
Conservative: A cultural environmentalist.
Statist: A cultural zookeeper.
Libertarianism: The doctorine condemning the use of force in Cultural management. (Seen by the Statist and Conservative as a co-conspiritor of the cultural polluter:Liberal)
Liberal: Cultural relativist. Seeks to preserve all cultures equally, techniques include promotion of minority cultures viewing them as 'endangered'. (Sees Statists as cultural gas chambers and Conservatives as cultural Nazis)
God: The evermorphing superbeing that allegedly supports Conservatives and Statists, generally feared and rejected by the other groups when He 'comes in that form'.
New Agism: Basically liberals who are seeking a new God to fight the 'Nazi-God' of Conservatives and Statists.
Communists: People who are adamant in thier belief that they are getting screwed by SOMEBODY and God has little to do with it.
Politics: A forum where it is acceptable to group up with your fellows and voice your disgust of people who are outside your group under the pretense of saving your nation from doom.
Government: The arena where the groups compete for supremacy and domination, success is measured by how well you force other people to comply with your beliefs.
Law: The formalized demands of the winning group(s), basically a deed of righteousness that grants use of force against the noncompliant.
Courts: The mechanism that deems an individual is in noncompliance with the demands of winning groups. A process that lends a feeling of legitimacy to the whole.
President: A man who's job is to distract people from the machinations of real power using trivial controversy, pie-in-the-sky promises and sexual peccadillos.
Democracy: The idea that, even if quantity is not better than quality, it is an easier sell. Unfortunately it also has a very long shelf-life as a political system.
Republic: The idea that compartmentalized power and availibility of choice allows one a meaningful variety of systems of law to live under.
Voter: A minority of the population who believes his opinion can effect the system as a whole by selecting someone to 'represent' his views. More often a voter is one who believes the most important reason to vote is to prevent the OTHER guy from winning.
Non-voter: Someone who tried the voting thing for a while, or someone who generally trusts the conclusion of those who tried the voting thing.
Bi-partisanship: When members of congress discover their political philosophies arent that different at all, or not different ENOUGH to matter to them, anyway.
Compromise: The term used to glorify the end result of a battle of wills reached due to debilitating fatigue on both sides where the general consensus is that it is better to screw everyone equally than to continue to stand up for the beliefs of your constituents.
Cynicism: An unwarranted pessimism about reality as a whole that is suspected of being very hard to genuinely achieve anymore as things steadily progress toward an undeniably hopeless state.
Anarchy: A state of disorganization, chaos and senselessness that differentiates itself from the status quo only by the appealing trait of not requiring all this effort, energy, hope, vitriolic speech and caustic emotion.
Reports of God's death have been greatly exaggerated.
"I should be surprised if mysticism did not soon make some advance among a people solely engaged in promoting their own worldly welfare. It is said that the deserts of the Thebaid were peopled by the persecutions of the emperors and the massacres of the Circus; I should rather say that it was by the luxuries of Rome and the Epicurean philosophy of Greece. If their social condition, their present circumstances, and their laws did not confine the minds of the Americans so closely to the pursuit of worldly welfare, it is probable that they would display more reserve and more experience whenever their attention is turned to things immaterial, and that they would check themselves without difficulty. But they feel imprisoned within bounds, which they will apparently never be allowed to pass. As soon as they have passed these bounds, their minds do not know where to fix themselves and they often rush unrestrained beyond the range of common sense."
Tocqueville, Democracy in America "Why Some Americans Manifest a Sort of Spiritual Fanaticism"
"Education of Young Women in the United States"
"The Young Woman in the Character of the Wife"
"How Americans Understand the Equality of the Sexes"
Feminist: A peculiar psychosis that effects women wherein they believe societies appreciation of them stems from what they have between between thier legs, thier general submissiveness and eagerness to please. Therefore, in the feminists mind, they must become asexual, demanding and irritating as possible in order for thier 'true qualities' as a person to be percieved. When this tactic fails they cast blame on others and devolve into an acidic lump of resentment instead of assuming thier former status as human beings.
Thier stubborness thereafter forever grounds their self-worth into the feminist paradigm. In desperation they become dependent on fellow feminists affirmations of thier valueset as a means of feeling appreciated. Homosexuality and full-blown hated of males often follows.
Victims of feminism are a sad thing, and its effects are not limited to men. There is a feminist-made haze that covers societies entire view of proper roles of men and women, it denies them the pleasure that nature provides when a man and women fullfill thier respective roles. Society shuns that, in both obvious and subtle ways.
It makes people miserable, confused and restless.
Now, the 'funny' version-
Feminism: Why men have to support babies women didn't feel like killing.
Help me out with the "much proof to attest to that fact" comment...where and what is this proof? I suspect it will be found in the religion's own writings...so what kind of proof do you have?
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