ESCALATION? Rightist IDF Ex-Generals Propose Massive Invasion Of PLO Territories

Haaretz ^ | January 31, 2002 | Amos Harel

[Cachelot]

Well, I revert to a careless typing method with gloves on in the cold by my computer.

Lol. Guess the US is a bit colder than SA or Pakistan :). Is that why you don't seem to possess elementary language skills, and has changed into a rabid muslim?

[Cachelot]

Was it not you that said we should go back to the boundaries in place at the time Jews entered the land of Canaan?

Not exactly - it was you who were skipping about like a demented time-traveller. I wouldn't even hazard a guess as to your motivation. As for boundaries, I bet I could come up with a set that I (and most other would like) and that you (and most terrorists) would hate. You lose, I'm afraid.

[Republic]

This whole thing is so wired.

I just heard some saudi official of the 'kingdom' (oh please-the Saudi Kingdom....) saying, when asked directly by Tony Snow if his country would support Israel's position if attacked by Palestine say that ONLY after the Palestinians had agreed to and signed onto a peace pact would they consider any support of Israel. Then this man from the 'kingdom' said that President Bush was wrong to keep Arafat away from the WH, that the visits to the WH were what propped Arafat up to his community. That Arafat's communications and travels were what gave him his power. OH BUNK!

[boltfromblue]

Speaking of the devil of language skills, could you point out the subject of the verb "has" in your response? And pray tell what language skills of mine do not pass your muster, taking into consideration I do not expend great effort on responses to people who do not address the points I raise in favor of Near-East peoples and against the policies of Israel. Puh-lease also consider your deficient skills as pointed out above in considering you abilities to assess my style.

[boltfromblue]

Perhaps it was Lent waxing poetic about breathing free in the land after he had set an arbitrary time warp of boundaries to create favoring only Jews, of course. Or maybe another, who cares, it is irrelevant.

[Cachelot]

considering you abilities to assess my style

Lol. And how do you know I didn't just put you to a small test?

But it wasn't about your "style". It was about meaning. What you say is giving your game away, and you seem unable to help yourself.

[boltfromblue]

Cache. . . was it not my elementary language skills that you were confounded by, not my meaning. I am SO confused! Forget this post. I will wind down my diatribes, as I see the people who need to take responsibility for their actions have begun to get it.

"We will not fight beyond the Green Line [Israel's 1967 border with the West Bank] in order to rule, expel, destroy, blockade, assassinate, starve and humiliate an entire people.Even the former head of the Shin Bet intelligence service, Ami Ayalon, told Israeli television that he felt "a lot of empathy for the reserve officers" when they were asked to execute "blatantly illegal" orders.

[Cachelot]

was it not my elementary language skills that you were confounded by, not my meaning. I am SO confused!

Yes, you are a bit confused :). There's more to language than being able to spell right, you know. And you're from another culture.

[mmmmmmmm....... donuts]

Sorry I didn't get a chance to reply to you earlier.

They should also be given world support to build an economy, as Jews would never support them as they are forbidden to give charity to any but their own.

If only you knew, buddy. Jews give charity to so many non-Jews that some question why particular charities bother to call themselves Jewish! You're totally off the wall with that remark, it couldn't be more wrong.

Then, no one will attack Israel if they are granted their due equal citizenship, proportional representation, equal government funding of areas that are theirs should they choose to remain in a properly defined Israel, property and financial rights, permitted Palestinian graveyards, for God's sake.

What? Tell me, if Palestinians get representation in the Knesset, do Israelis get representation in the Palestinian legislature? What kind of nonsense is that? Paleestinians shouldn't get equal government funding from Israel; they should get funding from Arafat's Swiss bank accounts.

Yes, likely their numbers will increase, but less likely as much as you fear, for many would likely NOT prefer to live in Israel, once they have their own state with an economic base to support jobs.

Wrong on both counts. If there is an independent Palestinian state, it will be an economic basketcase. Palestinians will desire to live in Israel for the money. And, Palestinians do want to demographically wipe out the Jewish state.

Do the Palis who are held in bondage to only being allowed wages, not bank accounts, try to kill you? Maybe, there are a few criminals, but most are content with the mere bones thrown them, a way to earn a living.

Held in bondage by whom? By the Lebanese and the Jordanians. Israel has never set up a Palestinian refugee camp in its life. Palestinians choose to live there, as a political protest against Israel. Pretty sick, but the truth.

[boltfromblue]

Guess I have to put the sarcasm on for those more dense than most.

[boltfromblue]

Your words in italics:If only you knew, buddy. Jews give charity to so many non-Jews that some question why particular charities bother to call themselves Jewish! You're totally off the wall with that remark, it couldn't be more wrong.
I don't doubt that modern day Jews give to groups that help Jews and perhaps others in these groups and maybe even ones that they do not affiliate with, but it is likely Orthodox Jews and some others follow their law. Any proof?
Then, no one will attack Israel if they are granted their due equal citizenship, proportional representation, equal government funding of areas that are theirs should they choose to remain in a properly defined Israel, property and financial rights, permitted Palestinian graveyards, for God's sake.
What? Tell me, if Palestinians get representation in the Knesset, do Israelis get representation in the Palestinian legislature? What kind of nonsense is that? Paleestinians shouldn't get equal government funding from Israel; they should get funding from Arafat's Swiss bank accounts. The Palestinians have been deprived of their lands and a state, but if they live in Jerusalem, they are allowed restricted representation in the Knesset, so your theory is not feasable nor fair. In addition, it is Israel's RESPONSIBILITY to keep up what THEY consider theirs, Palestinian quarters, so if they only spend on them 10% of what they spend on the rest of their claimed city, they are depriving those citizens. I guess the graveyard scenario is upping the ante against Palis who had in the past used Israeli gravestones as stepping stones, but you neglect to addressing , with no knowledge of it?!?.
Yes, likely their numbers will increase, but less likely as much as you fear, for many would likely NOT prefer to live in Israel, once they have their own state with an economic base to support jobs.
Wrong on both counts. If there is an independent Palestinian state, it will be an economic basketcase. Palestinians will desire to live in Israel for the money. And, Palestinians do want to demographically wipe out the Jewish state.
I have a great idea. Palestine should sue the Brits and the UN for damages. And I would personally send them a considerable sum to add to what Arafat is saving for a state from other contributions. I am sure they would prefer working for their united state and people.
Do the Palis who are held in bondage to only being allowed wages, not bank accounts, try to kill you? Maybe, there are a few criminals, but most are content with the mere bones thrown them, a way to earn a living.
Held in bondage by whom? By the Lebanese and the Jordanians. Israel has never set up a Palestinian refugee camp in its life. Palestinians choose to live there, as a political protest against Israel. Pretty sick, but the truth
De we prevent our wage/day laborers from opening bank accounts, owning property, etc.etc. Of course, Israel has only wage slaves. BTW, they are not sick to live in land that anyone with an iota of knowledge of the history of that region knows is disputed. As Israelis discuss among themselves:

Israel built the Jerusalem areas slated for being walled on territory it occupied during the 1967 Middle East war and annexed in contravention of international law. Israelis, however, consider them to be integral neighbourhoods of their capital.
Previously, governments had sought to avoid erecting such visible physical barriers for fear that it would call into question Israel’s claims to territory it annexed and its official position that it rules both Jews and Arabs, who make up a third of the city’s population, in the same fashion.
Even so, the plans have alarmed some right-wingers, who fear that the walls and barriers will signal that Israel’s political border will include only the annexed East Jerusalem area, and not the West Bank Jewish settlements. Michael Eitan, a Likud legislator, is proposing instead that Israel construct fences around each of the Palestinian Authority autonomy enclaves.A greedy bunch.

[SJackson]

..., as Jews would never support them as they are forbidden to give charity to any but their own. (They could at least refrain from taking what is not theirs, if they cannot be moved to give.

That's a particularly ugly piece of slander, even from you bolt.

[boltfromblue]

Maybe, maybe not. I know it has been true in the Mid-east, though.