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To: DoughtyOne
Line of sight can be pretty far, especially at altitude. The smoke and flame of a Standard or similar missile is visible and unmistakable. Nobody mentions smoke trail or flame plume. Nobody mentions flash of light out at sea, not even witnesses in aircraft who would be able to see for miles.

I'll admit that I've never seen three submarines surfaced together. Neither have any of the people posting on this theory. They look at radar pictures on the web and claim that it indicates surfaced subs, but I have yet to see any confirmation.

I've seen that picture of the missile near the beach. I've also seen the picture of the guy on the World Trade Center observation deck with the airplane heading for him. Enough said.

65 posted on 02/01/2002 4:20:06 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
To: DoughtyOne

Line of sight can be pretty far, especially at altitude. The smoke and flame of a Standard or similar missile is visible and unmistakable. Nobody mentions smoke trail
or flame plume. Nobody mentions flash of light out at sea, not even witnesses in aircraft who would be able to see for miles.

The only people at altitude do describe what they believe to be a missile.  One of the most notable was a former/possibly current member of the military which was familiar with this type of ordinance.  Many people described a trail of smoke behind the object.  That's why the FBI/NTSB created a sharade stating that the 747 actually climbed for 2000 feeet and that leaking fuel ignighted to create a false ploom.  That wouldn't have been necessary if it hadn't been for eye witness reports.

I'll admit that I've never seen three submarines surfaced together. Neither have any of the people posting on this theory. They look at radar pictures on the web and
claim that it indicates surfaced subs, but I have yet to see any confirmation.

The article specificly states: "Kallstrom, who headed the FBI's TWA 800 investigation, told me – and I have this on tape – that three radar targets close to the crash site were Navy vessels on a classified maneuver. We know they were submarines because the radar tracks disappeared when TWA 800 crashed."  Anothewords, we're not talking about blips exclusively.  We have the lead agent of the FBI in charge of the TWA-800 investigation admitting there were subs.  That's the refutation of the lie that I addressed.  He is also the person who stated early on that there were no Navy assets within 130 miles.

I've seen that picture of the missile near the beach. I've also seen the picture of the guy on the World Trade Center observation deck with the airplane heading for
him. Enough said.

That picture has been investigated.  It has been judged to be real.  What it means isn't exactly clear.

If you wish to dismiss any concerns over this incident so be it. I have long ago accepted that for some, it will take an insurmountable amount evidence to convince them that the TWA-800 was shot down. I can live with that.

65 posted on 2/1/02 5:20 AM Pacific by Non-Sequitur

78 posted on 02/01/2002 8:27:28 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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