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NASA extinguishes global-warming fire
Washington Times ^ | February 3, 2002 | Patrick Michaels

Posted on 02/03/2002 3:17:00 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:50:51 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

It really happened. The NASA scientist who lit the bonfire of the global warming vanities with his flamboyant congressional testimony 14 years ago, has turned the hose on its dying embers.

There is now no reason for the Bush administration to give an inch on climate change. Sure, energy efficient technologies (like my Honda hybrid) are worth exploring. But there is absolutely no scientific reason for any expensive policy like the Kyoto Protocol on global warming. Mr. Bush led the world by being the first to walk away from Kyoto, and science has proven him correct.


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1 posted on 02/03/2002 3:17:00 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
HAHAHAHA !!! I have been saying that Global Warming was bunk since the first time I heard about it on the basis that the Planet was not that sensitive to greenhouse gasses, now the Scientiss agree.
2 posted on 02/03/2002 3:25:31 AM PST by Woodman
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Words probably cannot describe my glee watching the "foaming at the mouth eco-wackos" reaction to this brave man.
4 posted on 02/03/2002 3:41:18 AM PST by JZoback
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5 posted on 02/03/2002 3:52:00 AM PST by backhoe
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Global warming is a reality. So is global cooling. The earth has been warming and cooling ever since there was an earth and there is not a darn thing we can do about it.
6 posted on 02/03/2002 3:57:20 AM PST by Flyer
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To: JZoback
Sorry to burst your bubble, but facts will not affect the wachos in any way.

They are Liberal/Marxist/Communists and just want to reduce the world to a common level of missery so they can be in charge.

7 posted on 02/03/2002 4:01:47 AM PST by SubMareener
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Mr. Bush led the world by being the first to walk away from Kyoto, and science has proven him correct.

Which means that air head Algore was totally wrong and wanted to spend $trillion& of dollars to change the weather. Lets all be thankful gore did not succeed in stealing the presidency from Bush.

8 posted on 02/03/2002 4:01:59 AM PST by chainsaw
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To: JZoback
Who let the dogs out?-[Excerpt] Do the arguments against Mr. Lomborg have merit? Let's examine two of the many assertions made by Mr. Schneider against Mr. Lomborg.

(1) Emissions Scenarios: Mr. Schneider complains that "Lomborg dismisses all but the lowest" scenarios for future carbon dioxide emissions and consequent global warming.

Mr. Lomborg does so with good reason. An analysis of atmospheric carbon-dioxide concentrations over the last quarter-century reveals that the standard assumption of strong exponential growth is wrong. You could read about that it in NASA scientist James Hansen's recent writings in the "Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences." [End Excerpt]

9 posted on 02/03/2002 4:07:40 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: SubMareener
Oh, I realize that they will never change their minds, their Marist ideology runs too deep. Their elitist small minds cannot comprehend the fact they are wrong

I just thought it would be fun watching them making fools of themselves

10 posted on 02/03/2002 4:08:58 AM PST by JZoback
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Is there a correlation between the heat given off by humans and the average temperature of the atmosphere around big cities?

In 2050, the biomass of all humans will be greater than the biomass of all humans in 2002, and thus so should the average temperature of the air increase.

All we need is to test the idea. The number-crunching can then begin.

11 posted on 02/03/2002 4:09:57 AM PST by Graewoulf
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To: backhoe
Bump!
12 posted on 02/03/2002 4:10:15 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Big bump for this one. Read it and weep DU lurkers!!
13 posted on 02/03/2002 4:11:03 AM PST by a_federalist
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To: SubMareener
Sorry to burst your bubble, but facts will not affect the wachos in any way. They are Liberal/Marxist/Communists and just want to reduce the world to a common level of missery so they can be in charge.

True but this throws a BIG wrench into their propaganda machine.

14 posted on 02/03/2002 4:12:05 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Graewoulf
Is there a correlation between the heat given off by humans and the average temperature of the atmosphere around big cities?

Is there a correlation between planting trees and grass in Phoenix and warmer nights?

15 posted on 02/03/2002 4:13:59 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Graewoulf
In 2050, the biomass of all humans will be greater than the biomass of all humans in 2002, and thus so should the average temperature of the air increase.


Not to worry. The Aids epidemic will take care of that.

16 posted on 02/03/2002 4:16:55 AM PST by Gadsden1st
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"Where are the reporters?"

Silly question. There are Republicans and conservatives to be smeared, Christians to be demonized, abortionists to be supported, gays to be glorified, victims to be created. Who has time for this story any more?

17 posted on 02/03/2002 4:16:58 AM PST by Senator_Blutarski
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To: Flyer
The earth has been warming and cooling ever since there was an earth and there is not a darn thing we can do about it.

Maybe would could send some (why not a whole bunch) environmentalist wackos to the Sun. Their mission: adjust the thermostat.

18 posted on 02/03/2002 4:17:01 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
DU lurkers in the bedroom weeping over this one. I can hear it now, "Why oh why did someone have to publish FACTS about this issue".
Great post, bookmarking for future reference.
19 posted on 02/03/2002 4:18:27 AM PST by BOBTHENAILER
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Kyoto was never about Global Warming. The propaganda about Global Warming was simply the tool to gain power. Europe wanted Kyoto, because it would not affect them much, but would slow down the United States. Enron wanted Kyoto, because it would force people to buy their product. Now, Bono, is Enron a good guy for supporting Kyoto or just another corporate m-f'er? That from the King of Corporate Bands...putz!
20 posted on 02/03/2002 4:24:01 AM PST by Kermit
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To: Graewoulf
Is there a correlation between the heat given off by humans and the average temperature of the atmosphere around big cities?

Ah, yes, the heat-island effect. Most of the older climactic data came from airports, which were (reasonably) located out away from the cities they served. However, as time went by, cities expanded and surrounded the airport with construction, concrete, people, etc. This raised the ambient temperature of the airport, without any climactic change whatsoever.

21 posted on 02/03/2002 4:26:26 AM PST by Chemist_Geek
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Thank Goodness the Gulf Coast summers are hot enough now.
22 posted on 02/03/2002 4:27:13 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Where are the reporters? Somewhere between Enron and September 11, you would think that the death of global warming would merit a feature or two - unless, of course, it's the kind of news that they don't want you to hear.

Is there a bibliography available? I mean, nothing is more fun than an afternoon in the Science Library reading journals, but before I dig into PNAS I'd like to know where...(grin)

23 posted on 02/03/2002 4:30:57 AM PST by Chemist_Geek
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To: abwehr
Now in the fifth record setting non-winter, I couldn't be more grateful for something warmer than real winter, as long as we don't draw liberals, leftists communists, socialists, or a whole bag of otherists, who want to sit back and suck up freedom, and the good weather, at my and your expense, while attempting to further their evil agendas, in a land that should find their ideas so foreign, that they would fear opening their traps, lest they recieve a deportation notice for transfer to the socialist, communist, faschist, democratic, dictatorial, land of choice.

Sorry, I've had it with purveyors of lies, deception, and outright evil, that includes radical environmentalists, earth firsters, wilderness lovers, who want to destroy that wilderness conquering ideal that the founding fathers were so proud of. They should all be on bended knee in gratitude for living in a land of freedom and liberty where I can't just exercise that deportation option. Why would I desire to take the nation backwards 200 plus years along with all of the scientific and technological advancements, just so I can walk in the woods? Oh, I get it, they want it both ways.

24 posted on 02/03/2002 4:42:23 AM PST by wita
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To: Chemist_Geek
I couldn't find James Hansen's recent writings in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (may not be on the web yet)

But….

Here are some of Hansen's earlier findings

And ……

(June 1998) - Patrick Michaels Reviews Hansen's Global Warming Forecasts

25 posted on 02/03/2002 5:01:33 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Flyer
Global warming is a reality. So is global cooling.

Common sense dictates that a world population fitting inside the borders of Gambia, Jamaica, Lebanon, or the Bahamas is not capable of destroying the earth.

While it is beneficial and desirable to have a clean environment, it also is true that the Greens suffer from a severe case of myopia coupled with supremely absurd arrogance about the powers of humanity versus those of nature.

Cities have always been dirty, and always will, but that's where the most rabid environmentalists live. They are deluded by their own surroundings. It is almost funny.

I once asked a hardcore environmentalist what she saw when looking out the window of a cross-country flight. Was it people, pollution, and devastation, or green trees and arable land? She was unable to answer the question.

26 posted on 02/03/2002 5:01:56 AM PST by angkor
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To: Chemist_Geek
Spoke too soon. Here it is.

Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. USA, Vol. 98, Issue 26, 14778-14783, December 18, 2001-- Trends of measured climate forcing agents By James E. Hansen and Makiko Sato

27 posted on 02/03/2002 5:06:46 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Conservatives have to learn that it is not enough to counter the junk science of environmental soicalists; we have to openly and aggressively attack the MOTIVES behind the frauds. The motives: socialists have successfully used global warming and other scare tactics (e.g. acid rain) to attack the pillers of capitalism (business and private property)and freedom (government regulations). Funny, I missed the TV news coverage of this important story.
28 posted on 02/03/2002 5:08:56 AM PST by Solid Oak
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
About time!!
29 posted on 02/03/2002 5:09:34 AM PST by set the record straight
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Looks to me like NASA and Hansen saw that they weren't going to get their "Global Warming Windfall," and so decided to tell the truth and rescue their objectivity.
30 posted on 02/03/2002 5:11:01 AM PST by bimbo
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
NASA knows how to predict an election better than a weather pattern.
31 posted on 02/03/2002 5:11:58 AM PST by Yougottabekidding
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To: wita
Sorry, I've had it with purveyors of lies, deception, and outright evil, that includes radical environmentalists, earth firsters, wilderness lovers, who want to destroy that wilderness conquering ideal that the founding fathers were so proud of.

A major clearing house for these types. IPS The Institute for Policy Studies( The Progressive Challenge: Linking grassroots activists, scholars, and the Congressional Progressive Caucus toward a multi-issue movement for fairness and justice for all.)

32 posted on 02/03/2002 5:13:33 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Yougottabekidding; bimbo
Oh yes. There is a lot of, 'pleassssse don't cut our budget, we really didn't mean it, Algore made us do it,' in this revelation.
33 posted on 02/03/2002 5:15:57 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: SubMareener
True. Not only that the poles are actually cooling. Ha!
34 posted on 02/03/2002 5:16:44 AM PST by jabonz
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To: angkor
They are deluded by their own surroundings

If they would even look around the city they could witness the resilience of nature. For example, one of the sidewalks where I walk my dog crosses a utility easement for about 200 feet. No one maitains this section and the sidewalk is cracked and coming to pieces from the weeds growing through it.

35 posted on 02/03/2002 5:17:02 AM PST by Flyer
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To: Solid Oak
Conservatives have to learn that it is not enough to counter the junk science of environmental soicalists;
we have to openly and aggressively attack the MOTIVES behind the frauds.

You can see many of these socialist players at the LINK at Post # 32.

36 posted on 02/03/2002 5:18:08 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Kermit
Kyoto was never about Global Warming. The propaganda about Global Warming was simply the tool to gain power.

Yes!

37 posted on 02/03/2002 5:18:56 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Although this article is 100% accurate on Hansen's assessment in regard to CO2, it is imcomplete in that it doesn't mention his opinion on other emitted gases.

He does call for the regulation and reduction of emissions of: methane which is a greenhouse gas and for those smog producers such as NOx and VOC. Whereas there is no political or scientific consensus on CO2/warming, there is no disagreement on smog/ozone as a problem.

Hansen has written that any global political/economic consequences faced by Bush/US for rejecting CO2 regulation would be offset by regulating smog producing compounds. Hansen refers to this as "taking the high ground away from Europe".

It is important to note actions being taken by individual states on CO2. There are several and where else but the west coast and the northeast. Most recently California has indicated that they will attempt to regulate tailpipe CO2 while Texas, on the other hand, has rejected even doing a CO2 inventory and will concentrate on NOx, VOC, CFC, etc.

38 posted on 02/03/2002 5:22:04 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Virtually the same thing happened last year with regard to Amazon deforestation. One of the prominent voices of doom and gloom retracted his previous, irresponsible forecasts.

Thanks, CW, I'll be sure and distribute this article to my students who are doing research in the area.

39 posted on 02/03/2002 5:24:49 AM PST by TPartyType
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
This is funny..

I caught one of those old "In Search Of" episodes on the history channel the other day, you know the ones with Mr. Spock?

Anyway, the focus was how we were surely headed back into another Ice Age and therefore we were ALL DOOMED!

And big ears had a bunch of credible (?) scientists on to back up this theory, of course.

All I could think was if that were a modern episode the focus would be how were were all sure to burn to death from Global Warming caused by our charcoal grills and SUV's..

40 posted on 02/03/2002 5:31:51 AM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Thanks so much for posting this! It fits right in with what I'm teaching right now - guess what a group of "gubmint school" students will be learning next week, instead of the "global warming doom & gloom" stuff in their textbook? :)
41 posted on 02/03/2002 5:39:22 AM PST by Amelia
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Thank you kindly.
42 posted on 02/03/2002 5:53:44 AM PST by Chemist_Geek
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To: Flyer
If they would even look around the city they could witness the resilience of nature

You are correct.

Think also of Pompeii, Chichen Itza, or Angkor Wat. The largest cities of their time, overtaken by vines and volcanic dust.

The environmentalists are nearly insane in their denials of reality.

43 posted on 02/03/2002 5:57:06 AM PST by angkor
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To: SubMareener
You nailed it. Its all about redistribution.
44 posted on 02/03/2002 6:03:56 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: backhoe
All interested parties should buy (or at least look at) the book

The Skeptical Environmentalist

Subtitle:Measuring the Real State of the World

by Bjorn Lomborg

ISBN 0 521 01068 3 paperback

Cambridge University Press

This is the book that has stirred up the liberal environmentists recently. There are several hit pieces in the recent issue of "Scientific American" attacking Lomborg's scholarship. After perusing the book, I think that he has done an amazing job of ferreting out articles and data. You can hear the environmentalist squealing if you listen for a minute.

I suggest that we send copies of this article to some of the groups that espouse ridiciulous positions.

45 posted on 02/03/2002 6:23:10 AM PST by Citizen Tom Paine
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To: Citizen Tom Paine
All interested parties should buy (or at least look at) the book--The Skeptical Environmentalist

Naturally I agree... are you familiar with John Lott's "More guns- Less Crime?" What I found fascinating was his chapter on how his book was received by opponents- many would not even read his work! Did not stop them from critqueing it, naturally....

46 posted on 02/03/2002 6:38:47 AM PST by backhoe
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The enviro-whackos will just come up with some new calamity. Remember in the 1970's it was global cooling and nuclear winter that was going to kill us all by the year 2000 and before that the "Club of Rome" group predicted that we would all starve because of over population.
47 posted on 02/03/2002 7:01:14 AM PST by The Great RJ
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
If nothing is "blocking" the warming, then the climate isn't as sensitive as the climate modelers had assumed.

These pseudo-scientists have never done a sensitivity analysis of their models - something that competent scientists that work in the field of math modeling know is a prerequiste before you ever make any predictions. A proper sensitivity analysis would have displayed these kinds of flaws in the 'climate models', thus confirming that the predictions of 'global warming' were incorrect. However, that would not have met the agenda being pushed by the 'global warming' advocates so they sacrified scientific validity for political gain.

48 posted on 02/03/2002 7:15:44 AM PST by jimkress
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
This man's switch on global warming will do nothing to slow down the environmental whacko crowd. And teachers will continue to teach our children that global warming is happening. So, while this story is nice and vindicates us conservatives in our own minds, it means basically nothing. Thanks for posting it, though.
49 posted on 02/03/2002 7:23:20 AM PST by oldvike
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To: Ben Ficklin
methane is in fact one of the more powerfull greenhouse gases...What the commie socialists don't tell you is that the half-life of methane is 7 years. In other words, every 7 years 1/2 of methane in the atmosphere has completly broken down.
50 posted on 02/03/2002 7:30:10 AM PST by Texas_Longhorn
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