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To: IVote2; OKSooner; yoe; Angelique; GOPJ

Even, you know, if she weren't, you know, vacuous and an utter, you know, failure...clinton corruption and the looming, you know, hoosegow would, you know, keep her pinned under the, you know, radar...

 

 

clinton: "There isn't a shred of evidence."

"I did not have any involvement in the pardons that were granted or not granted," insisted Sen. KnowNothing, seeming to forget her presence at the New-Square/Oval-Office schmooze that secured pardons for the four Hasidic felons who set up a phony school in Brooklyn to swindle the government out of millions intended for the poor.

Mia T, Sen. KnowNothing Victim Clinton Effectively Pleads 5TH in Press Conference by Invoking Spousal Privilege

Actually, of course, when the Clintons say there is "no evidence" of their wrongdoing, there is in reality an abundance of admissible evidence of whatever they are trying to deny. Consider, for example, the following standard jury instructions on the admissibility of evidence:

Jury INSTRUCTION NO. 2.00

DIRECT AND CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE; INFERENCES

Evidence means testimony, writings, material objects or other things presented to the senses and offered to prove the existence or non-existence of a fact.

Evidence is either direct or circumstantial. Direct evidence proves a fact without an inference and, if true, conclusively establishes that fact. Circumstantial evidence proves a fact from which an inference of the existence of another fact may be drawn.

An inference is a deduction of fact that may logically and reasonably be drawn from another fact or group of facts established by the evidence.

The law makes no distinction between direct and circumstantial evidence as to the degree of proof required; each is a reasonable method of proof. Each is respected for such convincing force as it may carry

Jury INSTRUCTION NO. 2.26

ADMISSIONS IMPLIED FROM SILENCE OR EVASION

If you find that following the incident involved in this case that a party (1) [failed to reply] [or] [made an evasive answer] to a statement concerning such party's conduct in relation to the incident ;(2) heard and understood the statement; (3) had a reasonable opportunity to reply; (4) was in such physical and mental condition that a reasonable person in such condition could be expected to reply; and (5) the statement was made under such circumstances that it would normally call for an answer, you may, but are not required to, infer that the party adopted the statement or believed it to be true.

If you do not find each of the five circumstances to exist you must disregard any evidence of the party's silence or evasive answer

****

That the Clinton's accepted massive donations from Denise Rich, that plausibly were channeled from her ex-husband on whose behalf she sought a pardon from Clinton. The fact that a Clinton crony was involved in the last minute scheme to by-pass standard procedures for scruting of a pardon application. The fact that it is indefensible to pardon a multimillionaire fugitive on any grounds when he is unwilling to present his case in court on the merits, all combined with the fact that Clinton has been unable to present a coherent explanation of why he gave the pardon, even mistakenly, and the fact that such explanations as he has given are inconsistent and incomplete, these facts are all credible, admissible evidence of a criminal conspiracy to solicit and accept a bribe in return for undertaking an official act.

10 Posted on 02/17/2001 14:41:45 PST by Gail Wynand

 
 
HEY, HEY MARY JO!
 
So many pardons 4 sale.
 
So many rodhams & clintons to nail.
 
Hey, hey Mary Jo!
 
Can you spell R-I-C-O?
 

 

 
 
Q ERTY1 helen thomas syndrome REALITY CHECK!
 
clinton: "There isn't a shred of evidence."
 
One of the most intriguing facets of this case revolves around questions pertaining to the mechanism by which attorneys representing the traitors, the tax cheats, the drug kingpins, the money-launderers and other assorted beneficiaries of Clinton's last minute presidential pardons became aware that the normal procedures for attaining such pardons and commutations could be circumvented in the first place.

From the circumstantial evidence, we deduce that Clinton had set up a black market apparatus, and the sale of presidential pardons and commutations was its chief marketable commodities...

My two cents..
FReegards, "JohnHuang2"

1 Posted on 02/16/2001 23:49:53 PST by John

Motive Is Everything in the Marc Rich Pardon

15. Mr. Grafeld told me, referring to Judicial Watch's allegations that Commerce Department trade mission seats were sold in exchange for campaign contributions, that "(Judicial Watch Chairman and General Counsel) Klayman is right on target" but that he believes that the trade mission issues were "only the tip of the iceberg -- that the really big money went towards Presidential access." Mr. Grafeld indicated to me that he believes that Ms. Moss was asking for political contributions in exchange for seats on Commerce Department trade missions, likely at the direction of Hillary Rodham Clinton, but that documents showing this illegal activity had "left the building." In fact, there were effectively no security procedures at the Commerce Department to ensure that sensitive and secret documents and/or any documents which might evidence criminal activity stayed in the building. The purported letters referenced by Mr. Grafeld and Nolanda Hill could easily have "left the building" absent sufficient procedures to secure them.

---from DECLARATION OF SONYA STEWART

WASHINGTON, Nov. 29 (UPI) -- President Clinton [upon the discovery of the body of Barbara Wise in the Commerce Department offices] briefly interrupted his Thanksgiving holiday weekend at Camp David Friday with a quick trip to the White House to gather data...and then returned to the mountaintop retreat...

The president, still suffering from a raspy voice, and ordered by his doctor to rest his vocal chords, carried a briefcase as he strolled to the waiting helicopter to return to Camp David. He wore a leather jacket and was followed by an aide carrying a huge box ...

Clinton reviewing inaugural plans, Helen Thomas, 29-NOV-1996

 

 

Helen Thomas Syndrome: THE SYMPTOMS

Mia T, January 3, 2002

 

The complex of symptoms associated with Helen Thomas Syndrome, (also known as 'habituated doyenne-iosis'), includes the following:

  • delusions of importance
  • tunnel vision -field of vision is so severely constricted that evidence of Pulitzer-quality stories are invariably missed...evidence like:
    • an absurd reason ("to get a book of poetry") for a Thanksgiving trip from Camp David to DC and back by a corrupt president under subpoena
    • a dead body: a Ron-Brown-posthumous, Ron-Brown-related, Thanksgiving-Day corpse in the Commerce offices
    • the deposition of Sonya Stewart, which tells us that "the trade mission issues were "only the tip of the iceberg -- that the really big money went towards Presidential access." Mr. Grafeld indicated to me that he believes that Ms. Moss was asking for political contributions in exchange for seats on Commerce Department trade missions, likely at the direction of Hillary Rodham Clinton, but that documents showing this illegal activity had "left the building."
    • "a huge box" hauled back to Camp David by said corrupt president under subpoena.
    • the Gestalt--the synthesis of the evidence -- the absurd reason for the president's Thanksgiving-Day Camp David-DC-Camp David trip; the Ron-Brown-posthumous, Ron-Brown-related, Thanksgiving-Day corpse; the Sonya Stewart deposition informing us that evidence of illegal Commerce activity had "left the building;" and "a huge box" hauled back to Camp David by said corrupt president under subpoena.
  • left-lateral curvature of the spine -combines synergistically with tunnel vision and delusional tendencies to result in a grotesque, dysfunctional reverence for the cowardly, inept, narcissistic, seditious, corrupt rapist-pig proximate cause of 9/11.

32 posted on 02/05/2002 2:08:36 AM PST by Mia T
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To: all

 

NewsMax.com

 

Sunday, Feb. 3, 2002 11:51 a.m. EST

O'Reilly: Bush Justice Dept. Hamstringing Pardongate Probers

Investigators with the office of the U.S. Attorney for New York's Southern District are being actively discouraged from pursuing evidence of criminal wrongdoing in the Clinton Pardongate scandal, with one insider charging that any prosecutor who tries to build a case against the former first family may actually hurt his career.

So says Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly, who made the startling cover-up allegation in his column this weekend.

"Although the Justice Department continues to say the probe is 'on the front burner', agents have told me there is little incentive to get things done," the Fox News commentator claimed. "In fact, one investigator said, if you push too hard on the case, you could find yourself in Fargo, N.D."

O'Reilly suggested that the Justice Department's go-slow regimen for probing the Clintons final White House scandal was likely instigated by the Bush White House.

"George W. Bush understands the way the game in Washington is played. You must make 'accommodations.'..... And what Bush may have given the Democrats is the assurance that he will not embarrass their party by aggressively pursuing the Marc Rich pardon investigation."

The first sign of Justice Department footdragging emerged last year, when New York attorney Ed Hayes, whose client Garland Lincecum had given prosecutors damaging evidence implicating former first brother Roger Clinton in Pardongate wrongdoing, expressed doubts about the probe.

In comments covered exclusively by NewsMax.com, Hayes told WABC radio's John Batchelor and Paul Alexander last June:

"The big issue now is does the government want to press the case. Because, for one thing, to really show whether or not there was a crime committed, you really have to question Bill Clinton. You really have to ask, 'Did Roger talk to his brother Bill about getting a pardon for Garland? Did Roger talk to anybody about getting a pardon for Garland?'"

Bill Clinton still has yet to testify. Even back then Hayes suggested that probers were being reined in on orders from Washington.

"You never know in these cases how dedicated they are to making the case. ... I think [lead Pardongate prober] Elliot Jacobson is a very conscientious prosecutor. But he does what he can do within the Justice Department."

Hayes hinted a political deal was already in the works: "You don't know whether [the Bush administration] is going to trade three federal judicial appointments in return for turning a blind eye to this." (See: Bush Justice Department Putting the Brakes on Pardongate Probe?)

O'Reilly now agrees, positing that Bush will reactivate the Clinton probe only if the GOP regains control of the Senate or if "things get rough."

"The Marc Rich pardon deal can always be used as a threat," he concluded.

Read Bill O'Reilly's full column on the Pardongate cover-up in NewsMax.com's magazine.

 

Read more on this subject in related Hot Topics:

Bush Administration
Clinton Scandals
Pardongate
Sen. Hillary Clinton

Q ERTY6 CLINTON NON-WAR ON TERROR TERROR
reality check BUMP!

Nothing less than humanity, itself, will forever be in the debt of Pres. Bush for having had the courage to take on terrorism FOR REAL. (See:The Real Danger of a Presidential Faker: Post-9/11 Reconsideration of The Placebo Presidency)

But that does not excuse Bush's less-than-courageous decision not to expend political capital to go after clinton corruption. Not to do so threatens democracy--perhaps more slowly--but just as surely as terrorism does. In fact, it would not be a stretch to call the clinton crimes "domestic terrorism."

Frankly, the incestuous, dynastic, professional nature of the current political structure, together with the clintons' limitless access to dark secrets via Filegate, etc., suggest an even less honorable reason than simple politics for Bush's apparent decision "to move on."

Personally, I'm sick of this rerun. How many times does history need to repeat itself before we, the people say "enough!"???

 

 

by Mia T
 
Not Joe Klein's Primary Colors. And not Jack Stanton.
bill clinton is straight out of
Stanley Kubrick's A CLOCKWORK ORANGE.
 
clinton is Alex,
one of the few truly amoral characters in either film or literature;
not quite as Kubrick (or Burgess) had imagined him, however,
but rumpled, wrinkled, paunchy, edematous,
stripped of the youth-excuse
after 30 additional, pathetic, recidivistic years
of marauding, stomping, raping, gangbanging, deceiving and destroying.
 
Like A CLOCKWORK ORANGE, the story of bill clinton
is the story about a society that has lost its capacity for moral choice.
But unlike in the less fabulous and no more ironic fable,
clinton is not mere nascent symbol but nihilistic agent.
 
clinton, like Alex, is the leader of the gang, the "droogies."
Eerily prefigured by the rocking, crooked phallus,
clinton's a conscienceless sadist
who thrills at risk and gratuitous destruction,
whose sexual and non-sexual impotence
is at the root of his obsession with "the old inout."
 
When Alex kills a woman during a rape, Alex is sent to prison.
When clinton rapes women, girls, his country and God knows what else. . .
and kills? --- check out those fourscore-plus deaths, please!
And don't forget the wag-the-dog, desperately-seeking-a-legacy bombings,
or the cold-blooded Ricky Ray Rector execution---
not clinton but society is imprisoned,
imprisoned in clinton's
besmirched, semen-stained, feckless presidency.
 
A risible and repulsive result;
yet not even the punch line.
 
While Alex is conditioned in prison with aversion therapy,
transmuted into a moral robot who becomes nauseated
by the mere thought of sex and violence,
bill clinton and his Thought Police,
in a perverse reverse aversion,
have conditioned society's collective brain
into not mere acquiescence but twisted admiration.
 
In the end,
if clinton's arrogant, ruthless, reckless nature is restored to him,
it seems the joke will be on all of us,
for it will be a victory for infinite victimhood and irresponsibility,
for seduction, for violence, for nihilism, for anarchy.
 
We will have set apart clinton as the hero
by making his victims less human than he;
we will have allowed clinton to carefully estrange us from his victims
so that we can enjoy the rapes and the beatings
as much as clinton himself does.
 

 


33 posted on 02/05/2002 2:14:02 AM PST by Mia T
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