"American Porn" - Dubya's Quiet War on Clinton's Legacy

PBS Frontline ^ | Feb 6, 2002 | Michael Kirk

[spycatcher]

Our national failure in the 90's prosecute obscenity and segment pornography on less accessible .xxx domains did damage to a whole generation of children. In the past you never had tens of thousands of 14-17 year old girls with webcams chomping at the bit to become real "porn stars" as soon as they turn 18. Sadly, these are Bill Clinton's girls, and he's laughing all the way to the sink.

And while adults might be shocked at seeing bestiality or other bizarre acts, many "Clinton Kids" have "been there, seen that" as young teens.

[weikel]

I guess she'll become a terrible delinquent as a result of this( sarcasm).

[breakem]

Dear General Ashcroft. There is a statue of David in the lobby of the building in which I work. Please let me know how to apply for a federal grant to provide drapes to cover it. $8,000 or so ought to do the trick.

--Embarassed in Eagle Rock

[spycatcher]

I think the black/white self-censorship is a cynical attempt to keep Southern lawmakers off the industry's back

[Fireone]

And, lest we forget, ALGORE invented the internet!

[concerned about politics]

I guess she'll become a terrible delinquent as a result of this( sarcasm).

It probably scared the daylights out of her!

[weikel]

Hey my father scared the **** outta me all the time( and does to this day and Im not really scared of anything including death). No I was not horribly abused my father was just a scary guy.

[garbanzo]

Seriously though, why is sex between a black man and a white woman more serious or offensive?

Why is anything more offensive than anything else - the whole list arbitrary if you think about it.

[Teacher317]

Actually, I think it's more like "I'm gonna do it cause I wanna, and you can't tell me not to!" Same level of maturity, IMO.

Interesting. I always thought that the "I'm gonna do it cause I wanna, and you can't tell me not to!" attitude was as close to the American spirit as you could get... like praying in school, running a business, flying a flag, or buying a gun.

So what is the more mature attitude? I'll do whatever the government lets me do/tells me to do (that which is not compulsory is forbidden), because I am a willing servant of the state? I'll 'render unto Ceasar', even if it's Hitler? I am better off when I do as my neighbors instruct me?

[Southern Federalist]

My guess is that the document was written with an eye to being leaked to the press and therefore included a gratuitous suggestion that the Administration's moves are motivated by racism. Propaganda.

[spycatcher]

That's a sad story that has happened to thousands of little kids over the years going to whitehouse.com or searching for "toys."

To me, a porn company taking over whitehouse.com was laying down the gauntlet, and if that was Dubya in office all porn would have been moved off .com addresses ASAP. Clinton just chuckled at the thought of his "Klinton Kids" visiting the site and bookmarked it to show Monica.

[weikel]

You are correct thats what I have been saying.

[cookcounty]

"Watching porn doesn't create rapists... it makes people horny. "

Unfortunately, these two are often related. There are many folks whose stimulation should not be encouraged, because they have do not possess the wisdom or self-disipline to properly contain it. Hence, rape. There are few rapists, especially serial child rapists that are not deep into porno. What one habitually fanasizes, one is likely to act out. Even if this is true for only 2% of the population, we are still talking about millions of ruined lives.

[Nateman]

I'm surprised nobody has connected the dots here. Flynt got blackmail files from Clinton which Flynt then used to intimidate the Senate into a hung jury. In return Flynt was allowed to publish what he wanted too.
    If the prudes of the world were not so keen on forcing their superstitious beliefs on the rest of us , dictating to us what we can and cannot be allowed to see, this unholy alliance would have never happened and Clinton may have been successfully impeached and removed!

[spycatcher]

is anything more offensive than anything else?

That's the great moral debate of the 21st century between liberals and conservatives. To me, moral or cultural relativity is just lazy logic.

[ohioWfan]

I'm not getting into a mindless argument with you about your "freedoms" and the American spirit. You know exactly what I meant. I was talking about responsible and moral behavior, and that's it. (And your all too familiar reference to Hitler reveals much more about your level of thinking than I care to know).

[weikel]

A liberal wants big government Im opposed to the government doing anything except killing and arresting criminals, terrorist, and fighting wars. Your on the side of the totalitarians and commies if you want the government to do much more.

[spycatcher]

I see, well I guess that puts you on the side of child pornography, rape, incest and bestiality then.