Skip to comments.A Little Secret About the Nazis (They were left-wing socialists like the modern left of today)
Posted on 02/18/2002 2:19:04 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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If WE don't stop the socialist left in America; then, like Germany, the United States will be 'drawn and quartered' by the 'outsiders' who despise our oppression being touted as 'foreign aid'.
This is an INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT piece of historical analysis, and sooner we can each start doing our small bit to begin to counter the Left's ongoing lies about this, the better.
The truth will come out and be known some day, the truth about the true origins of the Nazis and the fact that they were, like the Bolsheviks, the products of nineteenth century Neitzchean and post-Enlightment Nihilism.
The role of homosexuality in their birth is yet another grossly neglected truth -- especially now that homosexuals are boldly claiming their status as "normal" members of society.
I have vigorously countered the schools system's teaching about the true nature of Naziism with each of my three children, and as they have arrived at college, each one of them tells me that their professors have NO ANSWER WHATEVER to the fact that the so-called "right-wing" nature of this brand of Socialism was a myth propounded and propagated in the years just after the war by the American Left.
Thanks again!! p> NOW -- LET'S BUMP THIS UNTIL IT GRABS!!
Hmmm, sounds like the modus operandi of a certain Billbilly and Hitlery from Arkansas
Good fortune too you, TLBSHOW with your new book!
even Jimmy Buffett (another left wing liberal) has been seen reading a copy of this book.
At the extreme left and right, politics are the same: control, control, control. Only their methods vary.
To be fair, Marx thought eliiminating ALL religions (including Judaism) would strike a crippling blow to capitalist exploitation, Marx did not call for just the elimination of Judaism. And Hitler defined Jewishness as racial and not religious.
Of course, Hitler DID want to destroy Judaism and Christianity, and all other religions, except HIS religion, neo-pagan Hitler worship.
Socialism always decays into genocide because all it takes is one charasmatic leader to dump the whole thing on it's head. WWII was only sixty years ago.
By the People for the People, it's the only way to go.
"Liberals Lie About Everything All the Time - Eddie01
Hitler learned about the use of concentration camps from the Soviets during the period of friendship 1938 - 1940. Stalin in fact regarded Hitler as a close ally, until the Germans attacked the Soviets, whereupon he issued orders they should not be called Nazis (national socialists), but "Hitlerites." Soviet Communism was of course highly nationalistic during WWII.
The idea that Hitler and Mussolini were of the right grew out of the period of the Spanish Civil War, when the Soviets entered Spain on behalf of the Republicans, and proceeded to murder all their opponents on the left (anarchists, democratic socialists, etc.). Stalin then decided to identify all opposition on the left as elements of reactionary capitalism, or the right.
The right in Europe was always associated with the maintenance of the established social order, favored the primacy of "altar and throne," and rule of the best (aristocracy of some kind or another). This of course was the opposite of Hitler's and Mussolini's project of overturning society through proletarian mob action.
When confronted with these facts, those on the left usually try to say that collaboration of business with these regimes made them "right-wing." However, many businessmen will collaborate with government no matter what it is in order to survive or to succeed. Their objective is the bottom line, not politics. Involvement of business with a regime proves little or nothing about its characteristics as left or right.
They had a child and her name is Hillary.
and these social programs are being stopped by the republiscams, nope, they picked up where the demoncrats left off.
TLB is NOT Richard Poe. LOL...
... Hitler put Marx's theory to work in the death camps ...This is a risible misreading of Marx's essay. Marx was a Jew. He never advocated liquidating the Jews. And Marx never linked Jews to capital because it Marx's era they weren't linked; they were linked to usury, not capitalist commodity production. In Marx's era most of Europe's Jews were poor and confined to ghettos; they lived in the margins. The "Jewish question"--and many authors of the era addressed the so-called "Jewish question"--was how would the newly founded nation states of Europe integrate the Jews into political life? Assimilation would buy the Jews equality, but it might also mean extinction for the Jews as a unique people. Etc., etc.
Perhaps not (I never worked for him), but he has used Hitler's suggestions in his book as to how to get the crowd behind him and "energized".
In its perfected practice, Christian egoism of heavenly bliss is necessarily transformed into the corporal egoism of the Jew, heavenly need is turned into world need, subjectivism into self-interest. We explain the tenacity of the Jew not by his religion, but, on the contrary, by the human basis of his religion -- practical need, egoism.(emphasis was in the original)
Since in civil society the real nature of the Jew has been universally realized and secularized, civil society could not convince the Jew of the unreality of his religious nature, which is indeed only the ideal aspect of practical need. Consequently, not only in the Pentateuch and the Talmud, but in present-day society we find the nature of the modern Jew, and not as an abstract nature but as one that is in the highest degree empirical, not merely as a narrowness of the Jew, but as the Jewish narrowness of society.
Once society has succeeded in abolishing the empirical essence of Judaism -- huckstering and its preconditions -- the Jew will have become impossible, because his consciousness no longer has an object, because the subjective basis of Judaism, practical need, has been humanized, nd because the conflict between man's individual-sensuous existence and his species-existence has been abolished.
The social emancipation of the Jew is the emancipation of society from Judaism.
The whole reason that "left wing" and "right wing" entered into our vocabulary was to differentiate between the various flavors of Socialism (e.g. Communists on one side and Fascists on the other).
After the Fascists were defeated in World War 2, however, the phrase Left Wing remained in our lexicon to describe the Communists. Popular useage of the phrase "right wing" then began to be used by those trying to identify people opposed to Communism (in particular, Joeseph McCarthy), and was intended as an insult. Americans, being a ballsy sort of people, shrugged off the insult and generally began to equate "right wing" with Conservative, being that most Americans then and now were and are Conservative (i.e., not in favor of the great New World Order socialist Revolution favored by both Communists and Fascists).
"They say you want a Revolution, well, you know, we all want to change the world" isn't just lyrics in a song, it's also how Conservatives mock the starry-eyed socialist radical elitists. They want a Revolution, at gunpoint, to force the world to redistribute wealth and labor. Conservatives don't.
So now we're "right wing" because we oppose such socialistic folly. So be it. Just don't let anyone confuse our opposition to Socialistic Revolution with being on the same side as National Socialists (i.e. NAZIs). That's just silly, and it's just wrong.
... The social emancipation of the Jew is the emancipation of society from Judaism ...Precisely. Marx was arguing for assimilation, the assimilation of the Jews into civil society. The price of admission, however, was to be their Jewishness. But Marx demanded the same price of everyone. We were all to be relieved of our illusions, those illusions we call religion.
But Marx refers very specifically to "the emancipation of society from Judaism."
To Marx, Jews are not just misguided victims like the Christians, but Judaism is an EVIL, CAPITALIST religion which must be wiped out.
So, if Nazism is leftist, and Facism is
a communist invention, what form of
government lies to the extreme right?
... I doubt that he would even be a Marxist ...I think you're absolutely correct. I think Marx had enough integrity as a philosopher and as a revolutionary to review and even revise his findings in light of new facts. He did it all the time throughout his career.
To Marx, Jews are not just misguided victims like the Christians, but Judaism is an EVIL, CAPITALIST religion which must be wiped out.Give me a quote, please.
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I think that's a safe bet although he was not week-kneed about the use of force, I doubt he ever envisioned it on a scale of Stalin, Mao or Hitler.
Marx was actually an interesting person. He was like a half baked doctor in many ways. He was excellent at diagnosing the aliment. He had that part right a lot. The part he had trouble with was the cure. His prescriptions ended up killing the patient.
America's Left is no different in aim or outcome. War is coming...
"The Party is all-embracing. It rules our lives in all their breadth and depth. We must therefore develop branches of the Party in which the whole of individual life will be reflected. Each activity and each need of the individual will thereby be regulated by the Party as the representative of the general good. There will be no license, no free space, in which the individual belongs to himself. This is Socialism - not such trifles as the private means of production. Of what importance is that if I range men firmly within a discipline they cannot escape? Let them own land or factories as much as they please. The decisive factor is that the State, through the Party, is supreme over them, regardless whether they are owners or workers. All that, you see, is unessential. Our Socialism goes far deeper..."
"The people about us are unaware of what is really happening to them. The gaze fascinated at one or two superficialities, such as possessions and income or rank and other outworn conceptions. As long as these are kept intact, they are quite satisfied. But in the meantime, they have entered a new relation; a powerful social force has caught them up. They themselves are changed. What are ownership and income to that? Why need we trouble to socialize banks and factories? We socialize human beings."
Adolph Hitler - Rauschning, The Voice of Destruction pp 191-193
But don't hold your breath this sham will be uncovered and rectified. Too many people have too much at stake in the deception to allow that to happen.