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1 posted on 02/18/2002 2:19:04 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW
Hammer And Sickle Is A Swastika In Drag Bump
2 posted on 02/18/2002 2:23:34 PM PST by jodorowsky
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bump for later reading.
4 posted on 02/18/2002 2:26:13 PM PST by dead
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"...in his book Death by Government that the two most murderous regimes of the past century were both communist: communists in the Soviet Union murdered 62 million of their own citizens, and Chinese communists killed 35 million Chinese citizens. The Nazi socialists come in third, having murdered 21 million Jews, Slavs, Serbs, Czechs, Poles, Ukrainians and others. Additional purges occurred in smaller communist hellholes such as Cambodia, Vietnam, North Korea, Ethiopia, and Cuba, of course. Communism does more than imprison and impoverish nations: it kills wholesale. And so did ``national socialism'' during the Nazi reign of terror."

If WE don't stop the socialist left in America; then, like Germany, the United States will be 'drawn and quartered' by the 'outsiders' who despise our oppression being touted as 'foreign aid'.

6 posted on 02/18/2002 2:31:11 PM PST by d14truth
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Is it any wonder why Bill and Hillary have maintained a facsination with Hitler?
Bill used to hand out copies of Mein Kampf to his subordinates as gifts.
7 posted on 02/18/2002 2:39:59 PM PST by Slyfox
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bttt
8 posted on 02/18/2002 2:41:55 PM PST by Don Myers
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TBLSHOW Thank you for posting this article!!!

This is an INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT piece of historical analysis, and sooner we can each start doing our small bit to begin to counter the Left's ongoing lies about this, the better.

The truth will come out and be known some day, the truth about the true origins of the Nazis and the fact that they were, like the Bolsheviks, the products of nineteenth century Neitzchean and post-Enlightment Nihilism.

The role of homosexuality in their birth is yet another grossly neglected truth -- especially now that homosexuals are boldly claiming their status as "normal" members of society.

I have vigorously countered the schools system's teaching about the true nature of Naziism with each of my three children, and as they have arrived at college, each one of them tells me that their professors have NO ANSWER WHATEVER to the fact that the so-called "right-wing" nature of this brand of Socialism was a myth propounded and propagated in the years just after the war by the American Left.

Thanks again!! p> NOW -- LET'S BUMP THIS UNTIL IT GRABS!!

9 posted on 02/18/2002 2:43:37 PM PST by maturin
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Good read BUMP
10 posted on 02/18/2002 2:43:38 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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This is no surprise.

At the extreme left and right, politics are the same: control, control, control. Only their methods vary.

14 posted on 02/18/2002 2:48:43 PM PST by DallasDeb
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bump for a later read. This looks to good to pass up!
15 posted on 02/18/2002 2:50:00 PM PST by The Mayor
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When the Nazis and the Communists were fighting it out in the streets, before Hitler came to power, each found the other group to be its best source for recruits. They were just alike.
16 posted on 02/18/2002 2:52:39 PM PST by T'wit
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In his essay, ``On the Jewish Question,'' Marx theorized that eliminating Judaism would strike a crippling blow to capitalist exploitation

To be fair, Marx thought eliiminating ALL religions (including Judaism) would strike a crippling blow to capitalist exploitation, Marx did not call for just the elimination of Judaism. And Hitler defined Jewishness as racial and not religious.

Of course, Hitler DID want to destroy Judaism and Christianity, and all other religions, except HIS religion, neo-pagan Hitler worship.

17 posted on 02/18/2002 2:54:38 PM PST by xm177e2
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Under Socialist Governments, a tyrant eventually appears who will convince the majority that the minority has to go. Because the minority won't be able to fight due to their non-chalant give away of their freedoms and in particular the right to defend themselves (Clinton is the best president ever), one day their usefulness will run out and they will have to be exterminated.

Socialism always decays into genocide because all it takes is one charasmatic leader to dump the whole thing on it's head. WWII was only sixty years ago.

By the People for the People, it's the only way to go.

"Liberals Lie About Everything All the Time - Eddie01

18 posted on 02/18/2002 2:54:45 PM PST by The Real Eddie01
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Here are some further points: Hitler, in "Table Talk," said that everything in his program came from Marx. Mussolini started his career with a book on Marx. Both men were smart enough to see that state ownership of the economy had been a disaster in the Soviet Union. So they modified socialism to continue private ownership, but they maintained complete control through regulation over those matters that affected their programs.

Hitler learned about the use of concentration camps from the Soviets during the period of friendship 1938 - 1940. Stalin in fact regarded Hitler as a close ally, until the Germans attacked the Soviets, whereupon he issued orders they should not be called Nazis (national socialists), but "Hitlerites." Soviet Communism was of course highly nationalistic during WWII.

The idea that Hitler and Mussolini were of the right grew out of the period of the Spanish Civil War, when the Soviets entered Spain on behalf of the Republicans, and proceeded to murder all their opponents on the left (anarchists, democratic socialists, etc.). Stalin then decided to identify all opposition on the left as elements of reactionary capitalism, or the right.

The right in Europe was always associated with the maintenance of the established social order, favored the primacy of "altar and throne," and rule of the best (aristocracy of some kind or another). This of course was the opposite of Hitler's and Mussolini's project of overturning society through proletarian mob action.

When confronted with these facts, those on the left usually try to say that collaboration of business with these regimes made them "right-wing." However, many businessmen will collaborate with government no matter what it is in order to survive or to succeed. Their objective is the bottom line, not politics. Involvement of business with a regime proves little or nothing about its characteristics as left or right.

19 posted on 02/18/2002 2:55:27 PM PST by thucydides
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Their program called for the nationalization of education, health care, transportation, and other major industries.

and these social programs are being stopped by the republiscams, nope, they picked up where the demoncrats left off.

24 posted on 02/18/2002 2:56:48 PM PST by IRtorqued
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... Hitler put Marx's theory to work in the death camps ...
This is a risible misreading of Marx's essay. Marx was a Jew. He never advocated liquidating the Jews. And Marx never linked Jews to capital because it Marx's era they weren't linked; they were linked to usury, not capitalist commodity production. In Marx's era most of Europe's Jews were poor and confined to ghettos; they lived in the margins. The "Jewish question"--and many authors of the era addressed the so-called "Jewish question"--was how would the newly founded nation states of Europe integrate the Jews into political life? Assimilation would buy the Jews equality, but it might also mean extinction for the Jews as a unique people. Etc., etc.

I am no Marxist. And I have no intention of defending Marx. But we do ourselves no service as conservatives when we get our facts wrong or misrepresent our adversaries.
27 posted on 02/18/2002 2:58:08 PM PST by Asclepius
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The whole reason that "left wing" and "right wing" entered into our vocabulary was to differentiate between the various flavors of Socialism (e.g. Communists on one side and Fascists on the other).

After the Fascists were defeated in World War 2, however, the phrase Left Wing remained in our lexicon to describe the Communists. Popular useage of the phrase "right wing" then began to be used by those trying to identify people opposed to Communism (in particular, Joeseph McCarthy), and was intended as an insult. Americans, being a ballsy sort of people, shrugged off the insult and generally began to equate "right wing" with Conservative, being that most Americans then and now were and are Conservative (i.e., not in favor of the great New World Order socialist Revolution favored by both Communists and Fascists).

"They say you want a Revolution, well, you know, we all want to change the world" isn't just lyrics in a song, it's also how Conservatives mock the starry-eyed socialist radical elitists. They want a Revolution, at gunpoint, to force the world to redistribute wealth and labor. Conservatives don't.

So now we're "right wing" because we oppose such socialistic folly. So be it. Just don't let anyone confuse our opposition to Socialistic Revolution with being on the same side as National Socialists (i.e. NAZIs). That's just silly, and it's just wrong.

31 posted on 02/18/2002 3:07:19 PM PST by Southack
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bump
35 posted on 02/18/2002 3:12:16 PM PST by Ditto
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Nazism was inspired by Italian Fascism, an
invention of hardline Communist Benito
Mussolini.

So, if Nazism is leftist, and Facism is
a communist invention, what form of
government lies to the extreme right?

38 posted on 02/18/2002 3:15:17 PM PST by gcruse
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Cheers -- this one's for you.
44 posted on 02/18/2002 3:22:25 PM PST by cyn
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I have heard Michael Medved on many occasions correct callers who tried to link conservatives to the Nazis.
45 posted on 02/18/2002 3:22:40 PM PST by tubebender
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