They dream of peace ... and blood

The Sydney Morning Herald ^ | 19 february 2002 | Ross Dunn

[knighthawk]

I certainly agree with you on not giving those people a state of their own. When they do get it they will do terrorist attacks on Israel. Israel will have to respond and the Arab world will see it as a decleration of wasr.

Only the Saudis use our F-15's, not F-14's.

[Long Cut]

FYI- Israel uses American-made F-15s and -16s. They also used F-4 Phantoms, but I think they've been phased out. Other U.S. made terrorist headaches in their inventory include the Cobra and Apache attack helicopters.

Israeli pilots are also among the most respected in the world.

[Long Cut]

If you break this down, what we're dealing with here is child abusers, on a grand scale. They do this with their children, and ISRAEL is supposed to NEGOTIATE(capitulate)?!?

Anyone with a shred of grey matter can see from all the evidence that these people will NOT negotiate in good faith, will NOT stop attacking Israel, and will CELERATE the killing.

All the apologists here need to ask themselves a question:"Do you REALLY believe that the pals will stop the attacks if they get what they say they want? REALLY?"
If the answer is yes, you do not live in reality. Seek help.
Or, look at that picture again, along with some of the WTC and Pentagon. It IS, after all, the same type people responsible.

[knighthawk]

You're on it!

[knighthawk]

What I ment to say with 'Only the Saudis use our F-15's, not F-14's' I ment they use F-15's instead of F-14's.

A few years back the IMI offered an upgraded F-4, but there were no people interested in it, so the project got scrapped.

[Long Cut]

I remember that. Wasn't it a re-engine project?

[constitutiongirl]

Children wanting to grow up and kill people is disturbing. I spend alot of time with my grandmother in Belfast. It's a place where (as my granny puts it) everyone walks around with one foot in the grave. These kids, like children in other war torn areas, are not like happy, go-lucky children in America. Death, destruction, war, etc. is all they know. This in no way excuses violence, but it goes a long way in explaining it. These kids have no positive role models. They have leaders who incite hatred and violence, leaders that draw Israeli attack, leaders that lead these children to slaughter, leaders that tell them that they must sacrifice their lives for the 'cause'. I'm actually surprised that any of them dream of PEACE at all. It's hard to dream of something you've never experienced. These kids don't stand a snowball's chance in hell of anything resembling a normal life.

[BenF]

The omens are good, long term.

For your final solution to the "Jewish problem"?

[BenF]

You are correct, of course. Moreover, they have no future as long as their leaders, teachers, media, and clergy all speak of hatred, propaganda, and war. I see three possible solutions: Exterminate the Jews, exterminate the Arabs, or denazification of the Arabs. I prefer the third solution.

[knighthawk]

Aviation and electronic jamming as well, I saw it introduced in the MilTech magazine years ago.

[Lent]

The State Police got caught trying to milk the feds and they admitted it. I guess you forgot the the Jewish Defense League leader that was arrested in CA. for allegedly attempting to blow up a Mosque and a congressman's office used to live in Michigan. Does this mean Michigan is a hotbed for Jewish terrorists?

Smoke and mirrors and diversion. Considering the amount of Arabs including you in your neck of the woods and their (and yours) empathy for Hezbullah and Palestinian terrorists it sounds like the police were exactly correct in their analysis. Shame.

[TC Rider]

"I keep telling my friends and my family all the time, 'I want to be martyr.'"

If all of the Palestinians wish to be martyrs, wouldn't that suggest a rather easy solution to the 'troubles', that would please both sides?

Let all of the Palestinians be martyrs and that would end the conflict.

[Alas Babylon!]

While I disagree with DL on almost all things Pali/Israeli, it was BenF who called her over to this thread.

Baiting bulls is against the law in most places.

[BenF]

Just wanted to see if you could condemn the adults who were teaching these children to hate Jews. She couldn't even manage a little lip service....typical of someone who takes the Arab point of view on all things. I seriously doubt she even condemned the Arabs for celebrating the murder of Americans on 9/11.

I don't know about you, but I think that says something about the morality of a person and provides a perspective on their opinions.

[BenF]

You're trying hard to convince me that one tribe is better than the other.

Not at all. What I was trying hard to do was to get you to condemn what these people are doing to their children. Instead, you state that the Israelis are doing similar things. You didn't need to do that. All you could have done was condemn the Arabs. Then, when you post something similar that the Israelis have done, you could have condemned that as well.

From where I sit there is very little difference between them.

I have no doubts about where you sit. No doubts at all.