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As something of a trend tracker, I am very alarmed by the trends I'm seeing in this area and this article sums it up rather nicely. This is sick stuff to be sure, but should anyone be surprised after seeing the success of the homosexual agenda?
1 posted on 03/02/2002 12:20:44 PM PST by CalConservative
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To: formerlib; khepera; erizona; *homosexual agenda
My it's a very busy day today for us against the agenda
2 posted on 03/02/2002 12:22:40 PM PST by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: CalConservative
I have a great idea for a worth while freep. 80,000 of us go to the North American Man Boy Love Assosiation with baseball bats in hand, then we beat every member there till there heads are 2D!
4 posted on 03/02/2002 12:27:29 PM PST by illbenice
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Maybe they figure that after punishing Dr. Laura for her outspoken opposition, they might succeed this time. Dr. Laura shot down their first trial balloon almost single-handedly, without much help from anyone else. As a reward, she lost her television show.

Yes, pedophilia is openly tolerated in some places. Belgium is riddled with it at the highest levels, and so apparently is Massachusetts. In the end, this issue may backfire, abd bring down the whole homosexual agenda with it, but who knows? People capable of electing Bill Clinton twice might be capable of almost anything.

6 posted on 03/02/2002 12:31:48 PM PST by Cicero
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To: CalConservative
Here's a link to a pertinent AP article published today about a youth counselor arrested for molesting at least 11 boys while he worked at a juvenile correctional facility in Broward County, Florida:

Former Broward Youth Counselor Charged With Molestation.

7 posted on 03/02/2002 12:42:20 PM PST by jpthomas
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So Bruce Rind of Temple University

He isn't listed amoung their Psych Dept. Faculty. Did they can him?
10 posted on 03/02/2002 12:56:20 PM PST by pragmatic
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made a case in the American Psychological Association’s Psychological Bulletin

My understanding is that this is the same way that homosexuality went from being a metnal illness to a "sexual orientation."

11 posted on 03/02/2002 12:57:22 PM PST by Tennessee_Bob
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A psychologist friend of mine with deep experience in child molestation cases tells me that the current consensus among her peers is that about 90% of all homosexuals are that way because of a specific prenatal trauma, and that the remaining 10% were made so by being molested as children. I would bet that homosexuals know this, either explicitly or from intuition.

As long as a homosexual limits his activities to other consenting men, I have nothing to say against him. Though I choose not to associate with him, he should have all the usual rights to life, liberty, and property. But preying upon children, whether heterosexually or homosexually, which has been considered a heinous offense down through the centuries, often punished by the penalty of death, is something we cannot tolerate. This thrust must be repelled unequivocally.

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12 posted on 03/02/2002 1:07:17 PM PST by fporretto
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...U.S. House of Representatives in 1999 to condemn a scientific paper for the first time — by a vote of 355-0

So far, good enough. But, my question is, who are the 90 members that refused to vote in condemnation of pedophilia?

13 posted on 03/02/2002 1:09:39 PM PST by Gritty
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The APA has been taken over by sick and preverted..there is nothing else to say
17 posted on 03/02/2002 1:23:28 PM PST by RnMomof7
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Dean Swift, at the height of his powers, was never able to satirize anything like the social climate in modern urban America--particularly on the two coasts. The implications of what has been accomplished to undermine traditional attitudes is truly stupendous.

The only antidote, I know, is for Conservatives to make a concerted effort to get the public to react with contempt whenever the Left plays the "hate" and "bigotry" cards. (See, for example, How To Identify The Bigot In The Argument.) When a political candidate caters to this sort of perversion, by denouncing Conservatives as "homophobic," he needs to be intellectually dissected; his hide needs to be dried on the intellectual barn side.

So long as we apologize for not accepting the unacceptable, we are never going to stop the deterioration in our people's values; never reverse the trend that is taking away our ability to control the future course of our own Society.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

18 posted on 03/02/2002 1:27:14 PM PST by Ohioan
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Homos can't reproduce: they recruit!


26 posted on 03/02/2002 1:38:39 PM PST by Travis McGee
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* Promote the idea that boys are better able to handle sex with adults (than girls). Paidika board member Edward Brongersma wrote in 1986 that “a boy is mature for lust, for hedonistic sex, from his birth on; sex as an expression of love becomes a possibility from about 5.”

I'm not a gun owner, but after reading that, I may change my mind.

I do have a very sharp knife, however. I think everyone knows what I would do with that!

27 posted on 03/02/2002 1:40:38 PM PST by Focault's Pendulum
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bumping for later...after stromboli
28 posted on 03/02/2002 1:43:54 PM PST by tutstar
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Incrementalism.
They have society brainwashed through the media, the press, and the left wing politicians with "We are victims of hate", and "We are just like you."

According to the Marxist manifesto, this is definitely the next step. Watch for it. It's here, and gaining ground rapidly.

God help the children trapped in the public schools system. They'll be the test subjects.

33 posted on 03/02/2002 2:26:31 PM PST by concerned about politics
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38 posted on 03/02/2002 3:32:04 PM PST by GrandMoM
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43 posted on 03/03/2002 7:18:32 AM PST by Khepera
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44 posted on 03/03/2002 8:15:44 AM PST by CalConservative
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45 posted on 03/03/2002 8:33:39 AM PST by WIMom
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"Pedophilia Chic" Reconsidered - The taboo against sex with children continues to erode

Reply #40 in the thread 'L.I.E.' Is Infomercial For North American Man-Boy Love Association


Some information in the thread Assemblyman MOUNTJOY opposes promotion of homosexuality in public schools may also be of interest.

47 posted on 03/03/2002 1:18:12 PM PST by EdReform
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Here's my own personal horrifying story of dealing with a child molester and a government body.

I am an attorney. In 1998, I was approached by a couple who are the grandmother and step-grandfather of a then-5 year old. The 5 year old had been living with her grandfather and step-grandmother for a year. Grandparents divorced in 1979, marrying a divorced couple (grandfather later divorced and re-married). Daughter is stripper, drug user, etc. My clients had heard from step-grandpa's 2 daughters, who had lived with grandpa for several years after divorce, that my clients should not allow grandpa to be able to adopt granddaughter (CHIPS action was leading to termination of parental rights; father not involved). Grandpa and step-grandma had foster care of child.

After intervening in adoption proceeding and several months passed, 2 daughters finally came forward and said that they had been molested by grandpa in 1979, violated several times vaginally and anally. Daughters were 10 and 13 at the time.

I go to Social Services with this, and was told "so what"; that they knew he had done something, but since it was a long time ago, they didn't care. Social Services backed grandpa in adopting granddaughter.

Prior to trial, I obtained Social Service records that showed that right after we had intervened in 1998, grandpa had gone to Social Services and said that he had molested one of the two girls, but that she had been an infant and didn't remember. This was a flat out lie. After affidavits from victims came, he modified statement, saying that girl was older, but was still only one of the two, and only one time. Keep in mind, under Minnesota law, if convicted or admit to child molestation in their background, supposed to be denied foster care license. Nothing was done.

Thankfully at trial, I was able to deny the grandfather's adoption petition, having the 2 molested children (now in their 30s) testify about what was done to them, and how they are still haunted by what was done to them, how they don't enjoy sex, etc. Very horrifying to listen to. However, my clients were denied as well (most likely due to judge not wanting to give child to either party). Now issue goes back to Social Services for them to place the child with a relative, or, back to either one of the original parties if noone else could be found.

However, in spite of the fact that judge made a finding that grandpa had molested both victims and had lied to Social Services, Social Services still wanted grandpa to have the kid!!! Fortunately, I was able to contact the head of adoption services in the Minnesota Department of Human Services, and he shared my outrage. He immediately had grandpa's foster care license revoked, and ordered that grandpa have no unsupervised contact. Yet Social Services STILL tried to place granddaughter with him, even having him go to some idiot therapists to try to get him declared fit. Fortunately, again DHS stepped in and had the guy evaluated by their own sex offender expert, who declared grandpa a high risk to reoffend! That finally put the stake through the vampire's heart, and he was ruled out. My clients are going to be adopting the child on April 10.

This happened in Otter Tail County, Minnesota, and was the work of primarily one social worker, who thankfully retired last month. But it goes to show the idiocy of social service workers. My clients spent over $60,000 in legal costs and other fees associated with this action, and spent 3 1/2 years of terror "fighting the system". Fortunately we prevailed. But how many others out there don't?

50 posted on 03/03/2002 3:35:11 PM PST by GreatOne
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