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U.S. Deports Dozens of Israelis Amid Warnings of Espionage Activities
DrudgeReport- AP ^ | 00/05/02

Posted on 03/05/2002 2:27:35 PM PST by jmp702

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To: Burn24
Sorry, I'm a formatting amateur.
201 posted on 03/06/2002 10:20:30 AM PST by Burn24
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To: Cachelot
"WOW! Talk about a ball of hysterics. So, what kind of racism have you been a victim of? Please describe. Are you one of the critters that sit around certain boards and moan about how the white race is downtrodden?

I had to switch schools when we moved to Hawaii. I had to go to a private school 2 hours from my home to avoid being beaten up routinely for being white and a "haole". The last day of the school year is kindly referred to by locals as "kill haole" day. I suffered all kinds of slights and insults all the time by people who proudly wore their liberal lapels shouting diversity. I also suffered trying to find work as I would be routinely passed over. I have been mugged several times and made to feel like a stranger in my own county.

And you are a complete Jackass of the first order. Don't talk about what you know little of.

202 posted on 03/06/2002 12:29:15 PM PST by DrLiberty
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To: jmp702
"These individuals have been described as aggressive," the warning said. "They attempt to engage employees in conversation rather than giving a sales pitch."

I've met several of these students! They were no more aggressive than your average starving salesperson! They attempted to sell me some lovely oil paintings, at a fairly reasonable price (after some negotiation), which I bought, and hung with pride in my home. We have no feds in our office building - no secrets here! Just offices of people willing to buy art!

203 posted on 03/06/2002 12:40:07 PM PST by Chili Girl
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To: Seeking the truth
I did have one of these "students" knock on my door at home here in Boca Raton. She was hawking her art in the neighborhood. Looked to be College Coed. She id'ed herself as Israeli student.

I hope she got some good shots of your home. Ask her to get double prints when she goes to get them developed at Wal-Mart.

204 posted on 03/06/2002 12:44:34 PM PST by skateman
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To: jmp702
OK, so, exactly whose Great Experiment is this country, anyway?

I thought it was the Masons', but you people are always blowing my theories apart.

205 posted on 03/06/2002 1:01:11 PM PST by txhurl
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To: jmp702,Squantos,super175,Hopalong,archy,Uncle Bill,Fred Mertz,Plummz,golitely,Marianne,ratcat,hon
From the article:

"The DEA report said that among U.S. sites apparently targeted was Tinker Air Force Base in Oklahoma City, home to the military's AWACS surveillance planes and the place where many of the nation's B-1 bombers are repaired. "

Over five years ago Chinese agents were detected trying to steal the AWACs JSTARS radar in OKC at Tinker AFB home of the AWACS. The US agents who detected them were blocked by their superiors in the Clinton administration in DC from going further to capture the Chinese espionage agents. Information about the operation was transmitted in 1999 to OK Senator Don Nickles office who was to have conveyed the info to George Tenet in a briefing with Nickles.

Israel was asked to terminate a business deal with China in 1999 in which Israel was going to modify Russian aircraft and install AWACs style radars on the aircraft for China.

Is it possible that the arrest of the Israeli students in connection with trying to conduct espionage for Israel at TInker AFB in Oklahoma City (OKC) were in any way connected with the deal between China and Israel for the AWACs planes?

Also in the 1990s Chinese students in local area Oklahoma universitites were suspected and found to be conducting espionage activities at Tinker AFB. Were the Israeli students working with these Chinese students or did they learn techniques from the Chinese students?

I am pro protecting Israel right to exist and from Palestianian terror attacks. However, I do not condone Israeli espionage against the US especially since Israel has been helping the Cniese military way too much.

206 posted on 03/06/2002 3:53:44 PM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: OKCSubmariner
Thanks for the ping. I don't condone Israeli espionage either.

Israeli early 20's x,y, or z (lost track, I'm a boomer) something students, selling art door to door, engaging in converstion to get INTELLIGENCE.

The Mossad isn't that stupid.

207 posted on 03/06/2002 4:10:40 PM PST by SJackson
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To: OKCSubmariner
--EVERYBODY is helping the chinese military way too much. It's bogus. It's the most re-tarded thing imaginable, like they are gonna turn into "nice guys" from these efforts.

Israel and spies. My only thoughts there are that it is more or less understood that israel has as a last ditch effort something called "the samson option". My guess is, this option applies equally to everyone else. And you can't do that short of being a whopper super power with a thousand ICBM's unless you are on the ground everywhere, with spies and unconventional warfare people and " gear" handy.

208 posted on 03/06/2002 4:13:32 PM PST by zog
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To: Don Joe
You know, troll, your "israel first" code words render your "patriotism" fairly transparent.

Listen you hypocritical jackass, if I'm a "troll" for using the phrase "Israel Firster," what are you for using the phrase "pro-Islamist"? If you think you're the only one that can generalize about perceived biases, you can forget it.

209 posted on 03/06/2002 4:15:18 PM PST by Blade
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To: SJackson, RCW2001, Blade
Reports of Israeli Spy Ring Dismissed

By John Mintz and Dan Eggen

Washington Post Staff Writers'

A wide array of U.S. officials yesterday dismissed reports that the U.S. government had broken up an Israeli espionage ring that consisted of young Israelis attempting to penetrate U.S. agencies by selling artwork in federal buildings.

"This seems to be an urban myth that has been circulating for months," said Justice Department spokeswoman Susan Dryden. "The department has no information at this time to substantiate these widespread reports about Israeli art students involved in espionage."

Read the whole article. Very interesting.

210 posted on 03/06/2002 5:09:34 PM PST by veronica
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To: veronica
To: Justin Raimondo

.......I think you should re-read Southern Federalist's post, and perhaps consider hiring him to write for your 'website'.

Please, Veronica, there are things a gentleman just won't do for any amount of money!

211 posted on 03/06/2002 6:06:46 PM PST by Southern Federalist
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To: Cachelot
One who wouldn't commit such howlers as "the infamous Rudolph Hitler".

Oh, no! Justin really didn't pull THAT boner, did he? That's a laff riot, really hysterical! Where'd he go to school? The School of History and Cosmotology?

212 posted on 03/06/2002 6:18:52 PM PST by Catspaw
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To: Blade
Pat Buchanan said it best: when are you people--Israel Firsters--going to start acting like real Americans?

Is that why Pat had to fire the Brit ex-pats from the BNP from his campaign office? Hmmm, he's not above accepting assistance from immigrants.

213 posted on 03/06/2002 6:20:55 PM PST by Catspaw
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To: The Documentary Lady
Wrong, not Arabs and they are spying on us and they have a bad habit of selling our info to our enemies. You should be concerned.

Absolutely. Common sense should tell people each country is looking out for " their own interests first" Whether it is detrimental to us or not !!! When is America going to " catch on " and put America's interest first.

214 posted on 03/06/2002 6:32:22 PM PST by DreamWeaver
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To: SauronOfMordor
I'm sorry, but expertise in dealing with Columbian drug cartels does not translate into expertise in dealing with foreign espionage. For one thing, the knowledge required is not general but specific. There's need for knowledge about specific foreign intelligence services and their MO's and patterns. I agree with posters who suggest that DEA's lack of expertise in this area is already indicated by the ludicrous suggestion that Mossad's idea of a long-term multi-target spy ring is a bunch of kids roaming around very publicly asking aggressive questions.

You can talk endlessly about what might be and why the Administration might say this or that and what you can imagine, but this story will still have no legs -- except for those who desperately need to believe that the treacherous, wily Jew has shown his bloodsoaked hand once again. I am not necessarily including you in this group; I but present the shoe, so that those whom it fits may wear it.

215 posted on 03/06/2002 6:44:52 PM PST by Southern Federalist
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To: Catspaw
Oh, no! Justin really didn't pull THAT boner, did he?

No, that was an Arab. But you know, they might need someone like Justin, who has their pathology but still knows how to keep from getting ludicrous. Well, some of the time at least ;).

217 posted on 03/07/2002 4:51:28 AM PST by Cachelot
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To: ratcat
charges against Lee were dropped since Los Alamos was totally compromised by the PROMIS software. This is documented in the book, "Seeds of Fire."

Rotfl. The british author of this book seems even more squirrely than the british tabloid press, and you're quoting it as "documentation"??? Just a snip from the book:

“Lee’s work at Los Alamos was so futuristic that, if he revealed even a hint, it would have monumental repercussions. Lee worked on what was known as Project HP—Holographic Portal.

“The portal is designed to allow time travel across space-time and possibly interdimensionally.”

This is quite impressive, ratcat. So much better than well-researched, dull, establishment stuff :))).

218 posted on 03/07/2002 5:11:48 AM PST by Cachelot
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To: Southern Federalist
I agree with posters who suggest that DEA's lack of expertise in this area is already indicated by the ludicrous suggestion that Mossad's idea of a long-term multi-target spy ring is a bunch of kids roaming around very publicly asking aggressive questions.

First off, they're not "kids" -- if they're old enough to have served in "military intelligence, electronic signals interception or explosive ordnance units", that's a strong indicator that they're over 18

Ok, let's have it your way. So there's a very innocent and reasonable explanation for why:

a majority of the students questioned by U.S. investigators acknowledged having served in military intelligence, electronic signals interception or explosive ordnance units in the Israeli military. The DEA said one person questioned was the son of a two-star Israeli general, one had served as the bodyguard to the head of the Israeli Army and another served in a Patriot missile unit.
So, these adults were running trying to get into sensitive areas and taking interest in the homes of key personnel. Their lack of discretion might be viewed as lack of skill -- or it might just be audacity and arrogance, taking into account that the most that would happen is deportation.
219 posted on 03/07/2002 5:15:03 AM PST by SauronOfMordor
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To: TopQuark
TQ: "Why don't you read through what you posted. Most of this stuff I, as many others, have seen before."

Obviously I have read my postings. If you had seen this stuff before you would know that there were reports of Israelis cheering on a rooftop, which is what you initially vehemently denied. I am not impressed by the argument that fast-talking Israelis were misinterpreted as 'jumping up and down'.

TQ: "The 'car' with Israelis was widely reported. Some even suggested these were Arabs with forged passports (I have not heard this confirmed either). Your own article says that it is not clear whether the car is related to the moving business."

Huh???? There was a story weeks later about individuals in a car out west with Israelis passports and maps of nuclear plants. It sounds like you're mixing that up. The Bergen News story is how they apprehended some movers in a van that day, later stories refer to this traffic stop on Route 3 in Rutherford.

TQ: "Finally, your FBI report is a regular leads foollow up: they looked through video tapes, and follow up on everyone seen in the vicinity. The truck was spotted in Downtown at the time of the attack, they follow up ---- a completely correct procedure."

Huh???? Video tapes? In post 174 I quoted two instances of a FBI spokeswoman and a FBI Be On the LookOut report that refer to individuals that were considered suspicious because they had been observed 'celebrating' by witnesses.

220 posted on 03/07/2002 9:06:36 AM PST by Tarakotchi
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