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FBI Director Nominee Mueller Helped FBI and DOJ Cover Up Evidence on Waco, Ruby Ridge, OKC Bombing
Washington Times, Personal Research by OKCSubmariner ^ | August 1, 2001 | Patrick B. Briley

Posted on 05/28/2002 12:01:46 PM PDT by OKCSubmariner

This article presents, analyzes and adds important new information about a recent letter to the editor of the Washington Times concerning the nominee for FBI Director, Robert Mueller. The letter was published on page A-11 of the Times on July 28, 2001 and was written by Patrick Downes of Boston. His letter was entitled “FBI Appointment Needs More Investigation”. While Downes letter is to the editor, it provides valuable information about Mueller’s previous role in DOJ collusion to help facilitate FBI and DOJ corruption in mishandling evidence in important cases.

The text of the letter is first reproduced and then my new information and analysis follows after the letter text. Downes’ letter and my information and analysis provide important insights into the story behind Mueller’s and Attorney General Ashcroft’s handling of the corruption at DOJ and FBI concerning Waco, Ruby Ridge and the OKC bombing.

TEXT OF DOWNES’ LETTER:

President Bush’s nomination of Robert S. Mueller III to become the director of the FBI should have raised a few more eyebrows than it did.

Mr. Mueller’s record as a prosecutor should bring into question his ability and willingness to correct some of the long-standing problems facing the FBI. In particular, Mr. Mueller’s record as a prosecutor is not that of someone who has demanded that government be more open and accountable and that it practice fair disclosure of evidence weighed against defendants.

While serving in the northern district of California, Mr. Mueller instituted a policy known as a “Brady waiver” that institutes and protects the federal government from a defendant’s due-process guarantee as afforded by the U.S. Constitution.

The waiver requires defendants who plead guilty to a crime to forgo a defendant’s constitutional right to present evidence of their evidence at a later date. Furthermore, the waiver would be enforceable even if it were established that the government withheld evidence in its possession before, during or after a trial that indicated a defendant is innocent of the charges brought against him or her.

At WACO, RUBY RIDGE and most recently during the trial of OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBER, Timothy McVeigh, the FBI failed to properly disclose all of the evidence in a timely and credible manner. The FBI’s credibility as it relates to the fair and proper disclosure of evidence against criminal defendants is in ruins.

Given that Mr. Mueller instituted a policy that effectively shields the government from accepting responsibility for withholding and concealing evidence, its questionable whether he is the right person to become director at this critical juncture in the FBI’s history.

MY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND ANALYSIS

Even while US Attorney in San Francisco, Mueller worked to cover-up the OKC bombing, Waco and Ruby Ridge evidence by changing the rules of evidence so that the FBI and prosecution did not have to share as much evidence with defense attorneys in the cases as would have been required in the past. He changed the Brady rules of evidence in concert with the US prosecutor Beth Wilkinson in the McVeigh and Nichols case who had assumed a position in the same department at DOJ that Mueller had worked earlier.

Mueller was brought into DC to head the transition team for Ashcroft and Mueller proceeded to steer Ashcroft through the cover-ups by FBI and DOJ on the OKC bombing case. Mueller did such a superb job that Ashcroft personally nominated Mueller to Bush for FBI director to help perpetuate the FBI and DOJ cover-ups of Waco, Ruby Ridge and the OKC bombing.

For some of the details of the FBI and DOJ cover-up of the OKC bombing please read my article Ashcroft Relies On Evidence Obstructed by the FBI and US Prosecutors In OKC Bombing Case which was posted on the FreeRepublic.com on May 29, 2001.

The FBI and DOJ colluded to lie before the court during the trials, to falsify FBI 302 reports, to withhold 302 reports, to falsely rewrite 302 reports, to deliberately not write 302 reports, to doctor and withhold key surveillance tape evidence, and to threaten key John Doe and foreknowledge witnesses including law enforcement and military personnel in OKC.

Mueller was also involved in covering up the Noriega, BCCI and BNL scandals of Bush Senior. Mueller worked with Wilkinson on the Noriega case. Mueller also worked closely at several points with Larry Potts, the former Deputy Director of the FBI, who was kicked out of the FBI for lying about the FBI having Vickie Weaver murdered.

The head of the OKC FBI office, Marquise worked directly with Mueller on the Pan Am 103 bombing and Marquise is to be given the AG Distinguished service award by Ashcroft. Marquise verbally attacked four FBI agents who were on 60 minutes II last month describing the FBI cover-up in the OKC bombing.

If Ashcroft continues to allow himself to be led around by the nose by FBI and DOJ holdovers from the previous administration, such as Robert Mueller, then Ashcroft himself will be rendered useless and will himself become part of the corruption problem plaguing the DOJ and FBI.

It has been six weeks since Ashcroft was hand delivered a letter written by OKC bombing witness Gloria Smith describing three John Does in the case that the FBI deliberately covered-up. Ashcroft has failed to take action to have these John Does adequately investigated, apprehended or questioned and he has not had anyone contact Gloria Smith.

The story of the John Does and Gloria Smith’s letter to Ashcroft was reported in my article OKC Bombing Witness Requests Ashcroft Action On Three John Does which was posted on the FreeRepublic.com on June 14, 2001.

If Ahscroft is relying on DOJ personnel such as Sean Connelly or Beth Wilkinson and especially FBI Director designee Robert Mueller and others involved in the FBI cover-up, then it is doubtful that Ashcroft, the FBI or the DOJ will do anything adequate about Gloria Smith’s John Does or will really investigate the FBI and DOJ cover-ups in the OKC bombing.

Senators Hatch and Leahy have gushed over Mueller in confirmation hearings and recently said that Congress will not need to continue close oversight of the FBI once Mueller is in charge for a while. This is an absolute abdication of the Senate’s role to continue indefinitely overseeing the FBI and is a blank check that should never be given to the FBI and particularly to “Mr. evidence cover-up artist” Robert Mueller.

Even former FBI agent Gary Aldrich who wrote “Unlimited Access” just advocated in his newsletter ( from the Patrick Henry Center) giving Robert Mueller “a blank check” (these are Aldrich’s exact words) to run and cleanup the FBI. Aldrich is like the Senators who really do not want to oversee the FBI, they just want to create the allusion that the FBI can run itself without oversight once a few cosmetic changes are made. They like Mueller so far are still perpetuating the FBI status quo of corrupt policies that endanger the American people and threaten their freedoms and lives.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: ashcroft; conspiracy; espionagelist; fredthompson; mueller; okcbombing; rubyridge; terrorwar; waco
This is a repost of the article I wrote on August 1, 2001 about Robert Mueller.

I believe the repost is timely, relevant and necessary given the new revelations and scrutiny of Congress concerning Mueller. Congress is now investigating Mueller's and the FBI handling of memos from FBI agents Coleen Rowley and Ken Williams before the 9/11 attacks about the Bin Laden and AlQaeda connections to hijacker pilots training in tne US.

If COngress had been more careful to review what I wrote about Mueller in early August 2001, COngress should never have confirmed Mueller.

Mueller's ties to the Saudis and BCCI are especially troubling today with the recent allegations by the BBC that the FBI had been ordered not to investigate Saudi businessmen, Royals and government officials that have been backing AlQaeda, Hamas and Bin Laden in their efforts to attack the US.

1 posted on 05/28/2002 12:01:47 PM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: Philman_36,Native American Female Vet,Free the USA,Spar,Carry_Okie,Senator Pardek,Donald Stone, T
FYI
2 posted on 05/28/2002 12:02:10 PM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: OKCSubmariner
If COngress had been more careful to review what I wrote about Mueller in early August 2001, COngress should never have confirmed Mueller.

Kinda fancy yourself, don't you?

3 posted on 05/28/2002 12:05:47 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
Well, compare our friend to the usual quality of feedback Congress gets about a nominee. You think what Planned Parenthood has to say is any better-researched? Moreover, what is more influential these days, Freepers or lame-ass old-school pressure groups? Just because we get no respect from the NYT does not mean we have no clout.
4 posted on 05/28/2002 12:11:40 PM PDT by eno_
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To: sinkspur
If Mueller was the waterboy for Freeh that is all we have to know.
5 posted on 05/28/2002 12:13:07 PM PDT by doc
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To: *TerrorWar;*Espionage_list;*Conspiracy;*OKCbombing
Bump to Index
6 posted on 05/28/2002 12:16:19 PM PDT by Free the USA
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To: thud
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7 posted on 05/28/2002 12:17:43 PM PDT by Dark Wing
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To: OKCSubmariner; YaYa123
If Ashcroft continues to allow himself to be led around by the nose by FBI and DOJ holdovers from the previous administration, such as Robert Mueller, then Ashcroft himself will be rendered useless and will himself become part of the corruption problem plaguing the DOJ and FBI.

Well said!

8 posted on 05/28/2002 12:22:23 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: OKCSubmariner
Speaking of Mueller......Did you know that Boxer backed his nomination to head the FBI?

Did you know that the Judiciary Commitee and the Senate acted on his nomination and confirmation faster than most and within 2 weeks he was confirmed?

Did you knowit took over a month to swear him in as FBI director?

Did you know he was Acting Deputy Director of the DOJ from January through May, went home for a month and was then nominated to head the FBI?

Liberal Senators Back Mueller for FBI; Privacy Advocates Wary

Wes Vernon Friday, July 6, 2001

WASHINGTON - Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., a rival to Sen. Edward Kennedy as the Senate's most reliable leftist, has given a fulsome endorsement to Robert Mueller, President Bush's pick for FBI director. Privacy advocates are withholding judgment.

In a statement faxed by her office to NewsMax.com, Boxer praises Mueller, U.S. attorney for Northern California, as having "all the qualities needed to become an outstanding Director of the FBI." "He has extensive law enforcement experience at every level, from line prosecutor to U.S. Attorney to high level positions in the Justice Department," she added.

"His courage and devotion to his country are unquestioned and were demonstrated early in his career when he become a highly decorated Marine officer."

Speaking of Kennedy, his reaction was to recall that Mueller had "demonstrated considerable skill in the U.S. Attorney's office in Boston and San Francisco, and as head of the Criminal Division in the Department of Justice." Boxer's enthusiasm contrasts with a more "wait and see" approach by privacy advocates.

Noting that Mueller was familiar with technical issues involving the FBI, Lisa Dean, vice president of technology policy for the Free Congress Foundation, expressed the hope that the nominee would have a sense of "balance" between high-technology methods of catching criminals and the privacy rights of Americans.

"I don't know how he comes down on" that "balance," said David Sobel, general counsel of the Electronic Privacy Information Center. He said he had met the nominee in a meeting hosted by Attorney General John Ashcroft. That meeting with law enforcement officials and privacy advocates was to discuss computer crime and related privacy concerns.

Sobel said he did not know Mueller's views on those matters, but "he is certainly knowledgeable about them." Accuracy in Media President Reed Irvine, who has frequently clashed with the FBI over investigations which he believes were either botched or covered up, referred NewsMax.com to a June 11 column by New York Times columnist William Safire.

Recalling that Mueller led the Justice Department's Criminal Division in the senior Bush's administration, the columnist describes him as an "intelligent apparatchik." Apparently, the FBI pick is a survivor of the bureaucratic wars who has managed to avoid rocking boats in the administrations of both Bushes and Clinton. The following are examples:

1 - Mueller "showed a marked lack of interest in the Iraqgate investigation." The accusation in that case was that the Bush administration, having received near-universal acclaim for victory over Iraq in the Gulf War, had stumbled into that conflict in the first place through diplomatic blunders that emboldened Saddam Hussein.

2 - "As Democrat [Eric] Holder moved up the ladder at [Clinton-Reno] Justice, so too did his friend Mueller, and — with strong support from Senator Barbara Boxer - was rewarded with a Clinton appointment as U.S. Attorney in San Francisco."

3 - When Bush the younger arrived, Mueller "spun about and made his bureaucratic expertise known to the knocked about [Attorney General] John Ashcroft." He saw that his old associates in the public integrity section remained secure.

Republican lawmakers are reluctant to publicly criticize their president. But GOP staffers who are up to speed on the thinking inside FBI and Justice Department circles will express their concerns off the record.

'Too Clever'

"This guy's just a little too clever by half," said one, "How can we trust somebody who walks both sides of the street? Didn't we have enough of that with [recently departed FBI Director Louis] Freeh?"

While former FBI directors William Sessions and William Webster were often criticized for naiveté on bureaucratic intrigue, Mueller, as some Washingtonians see it, may have the kind of bureaucratic smarts that are good for him, but not necessarily for the country. On the other hand, another Republican staffer said there was reason to believe that Mueller will be an improvement over Freeh, about whom this source had no enthusiasm.

"You have to remember," he said, "he has the backing of both the president and John Ashcroft. And they're both good guys. If he wants to please them, he'll do the right thing [on privacy]."

Although some may regard that kind of comment as a form of "whistling past the graveyard," rare is the Republican on the Hill ready to go to war over this nomination, at least at this early stage. Senate Judiciary Chairman Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., issued a noncommittal statement noting his panel's planned "oversight hearings" on the FBI, and adding it "will be the committee's job to determine if Mr. Mueller is the right person for the job." The committee's ranking Republican and former chairman, Sen. Orrin G. Hatch, R-Utah, lauded Bush for his "excellent choice" in picking Mueller.

"I am confident that Mr. Mueller's distinguished history of public service and as a federal prosecutor" will provide "dynamic leadership," the Utah Republican declared.

California's other liberal Democrat senator, Dianne Feinstein, praised the selection of Mueller, Fox News Channel reported Thursday evening.

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Congressional Record: August 2, 2001 (Senate) Page S8680-S8691 robert s. mueller, iii, to be director of the federal bureau of investigation Mr. LEAHY. Madam President, I have moved swiftly in the Judiciary Committee to consider and move forward the nomination of Robert S. Mueller, III, to be Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

His nomination was sent to the Senate on July 18 but his paperwork was not completed until July 24. Less than one week later, we held 2 days of hearings, on July 30 and 31, and made sure that the committee considered his nomination the same week, on August 2, in order to ensure committee and Senate consideration of this important nomination before the August recess. The committee unanimously and favorably reported this nomination. I thank the Democratic and Republican members of the committee for their cooperation and attention in allowing this nomination to move forward on an expedited basis. Mr. Mueller has had an outstanding career in law enforcement, serving as a Federal prosecutor in three different United States Attorneys' Offices and in Main Justice under both Republican and Democratic administrations. As he testified at his confirmation hearing, he has ``either personally prosecuted or supervised the prosecution of just about every type of Federal Criminal offense, including homicide, drug trafficking, organized crime, cyber crime, major frauds, civil rights and environmental crime.´´

Mr. Mueller was the only witness at his hearings. The committee did not call other witnesses we are in the midst of intensive and ongoing FBI oversight hearings. These FBI oversight hearings were an integral part of the committee's preparation to consider the nomination of a new FBI Director, and Mr. Mueller's opening statement at his confirmation hearings specifically addressed significant issues raised in the prior hearings.

At the oversight hearing on June 20, 2001, the committee examined both outside oversight mechanisms and methods to restore confidence in the FBI.

Witnesses included former Senator John C. Danforth, who investigated the events at Waco as Special Counsel to the Attorney General; the Honorable William H. Webster, former FBI and CIA Director, currently heading a review of FBI security in the aftermath of the Hanssen espionage case; Glenn A. Fine, current Inspector General of the Department of Justice; Michael R. Bromwich, former Inspector General of the Department of Justice; and Norman J. Rabkin, Managing Director, Tax Administration and Justice Issues, General Accounting Office.

At the oversight hearing on July 18, 2001, the committee considered the reform of FBI management with views from inside and outside the FBI. Witnesses included Raymond W. Kelly, former New York City Police Commissioner and Commissioner of the U.S. Customs Service; Bob E. Dies, FBI Assistant Director for Information Resources; Kenneth H. Senser, Acting FBI Deputy Assistant Director for Security Programs and Countermeasures; John E. Roberts, Unit Chief, FBI Office of Professional Responsibility; John Werner, former Supervisory Special Agent, FBI Office of Professional Responsibility; Frank L. Perry, Supervisory Senior Resident Agent, Raleigh, North Carolina, and former head of the Office of Law Enforcement Ethics at the FBI

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WASHINGTON (CNN) Mueller confirmed as FBI chief

August 2, 2001 Posted: 9:15 PM EDT (0115 GMT)

-- The Senate voted unanimously Thursday to confirm Robert Mueller as FBI director.

The Senate vote was 98-0 to approve Mueller for a 10-year term, the same day the Senate Judiciary Committee recommended his confirmation. The 56-year-old veteran prosecutor was President Bush's pick to lead the bureau. He told the Judiciary Committee during a two-day confirmation hearing that his top priority would be to "restore the public's confidence in the FBI, to re-earn the faith and trust of the American people."

Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vermont, the Judiciary Committee's chairman, said Mueller should be prepared to "clean house if necessary."

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Mueller assumes the helm of FBI September 5, 2001 Posted: 10:52 AM EDT (1452 GMT)

  WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Robert Mueller took charge of the FBI Tuesday, becoming the sixth director of the United States' top law enforcement agency, which has been plagued by a recent series of blunders. Justice Department and FBI officials said Mueller was sworn in during an early-morning, private ceremony in Attorney General John Ashcroft's office across the street from FBI headquarters. Bush nominates Robert Mueller as head of FBI

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Washington, July 5 US PRESIDENT George W Bush on Friday nominated Justice Department veteran Robert Mueller as head of Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), an administration official said.

His task is to restore prestige of FBI, which has suffered from a string of embarrassments ranging from bungled documents to the discovery of a spy for the Russians in its midst, the official said. The news follows intense speculation about whom Bush would pick to replace Louis Freeh, who announced his resignation on May 1, well in advance of the end of his term set for 2003.

Mueller, who served as acting deputy attorney general from January to May, serves as US Attorney in San Francisco. He had previously headed homicide division of the US Attorney's office here.

If confirmed by the Senate, Mueller gets a ten-year term.

10 posted on 05/28/2002 12:25:22 PM PDT by Native American Female Vet
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To: OKCSubmariner
bump for reading later...
11 posted on 05/28/2002 12:27:22 PM PDT by firewalk
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To: TWOSTEP
PING
12 posted on 05/28/2002 12:30:57 PM PDT by Native American Female Vet
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To: OKCSubmariner; CongressmanBillyBob
Thank you kindly. Let's make sure this goes veritcal.
13 posted on 05/28/2002 12:37:01 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: doc
If Mueller was the waterboy for Freeh that is all we have to know.

Freeh really was a damned disgrace. Too bad the GOP didn't chase his @ss out of town after he opened his FBI file delivery service (with express service to ex-bar bouncers working in the WH basement).
14 posted on 05/28/2002 12:37:02 PM PDT by wheezer
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To: OKCSubmariner
It is my opinion that we still haven't all the FBI material on the OKC bombing. The one thing the FBI did well, going back before the war, was to infiltrate the bad guy's cells. When the commies disappeared (or became democrats), the FBI shifted its focus to militia groups. I believe the FBI had one or more folks who reported regularly on what McVeigh planned to do. They might of stopped him (all the pre-bombing searches of the area with dogs, now denied) except for some administrative snafu probably related to DC FBI bigwigs unable to land for the action 'photos. The bombing took place despite lots of evidence that should have stopped. McVeigh was executed so quickly to hide the FBI compliance. The last minute release was a diversion to cover the 10,000 pages still hidden. Since McVeigh's death, noone is looking for more evidence; they should, because I think it is there. His knowledge is why the Dallas SAIC retured; they want him out of sight and out of mind.
15 posted on 05/28/2002 12:40:13 PM PDT by Tacis
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To: OKCSubmariner
**Mega Bump**
16 posted on 05/28/2002 12:54:52 PM PDT by TwoStep
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To: OKCSubmariner
Who the hell is Patrick Downes?
17 posted on 05/28/2002 1:19:53 PM PDT by mass55th
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To: doc
Not only that but you would think that common sense would have prevented Bush from making this appointment as well as some others. I wonder what goes thru his mind sometimes. All leftovers from the Clinton era must be given pink slips from government jobs.
18 posted on 05/28/2002 2:07:13 PM PDT by hsmomx3
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To: OKCSubmariner
Sounds like we'll have the "same old stink, just different flies". Thanks for the article.
19 posted on 05/28/2002 2:07:52 PM PDT by Howie
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To: OKCSubmariner
BUMP
20 posted on 05/28/2002 2:14:15 PM PDT by Aurelius
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To: OKCSubmariner
Don't hold your breath waiting for Bush to do anything about this guy
21 posted on 05/28/2002 2:40:28 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: FreetheHostages,rdavis84,Fred Mertz,philman_36,Native American Female Vet
This reply is for: FreetheHostages

I do not agree with the way Bob Mueller has done things in the past. If Bob Mueller had no control over the matters that led to 9/11/01, then Bob Mueller should still come forward and tell COngress what he knows went wrong (even if it means telling anything relevant about Ashcroft, the FBI, the CIA or even Bush and Clinton so the problems can be corrected quickly before we have another terror attack.

Mueller should put the welfare of the country ahead of his personal career, ahead of the FBI, the CIA and Bush and CLinton.

If Bob Mueller is tough as nails as you say he is (and as you say you are), does he have the moral courage to now do the right thing and see it through for the good of the country? I pray that he will.

But the last prominent man in government I heard who boasted he was tough as nails was "Tough Tony Lake", the National Security advisor under Clinton. Anthony Lake may have been tough but Congress was not convinced he was moral enough to be confirmed as DCIA. And Lake is suspeced of aiding the wrong Islamic types as well as the wrong Chinese.

Men like Mueller can be forgiven if they repent and make amends. But if they continue to cover even for things they did not do but know about, they will get caught up in the web of deceit and go down hard. He can chose to either be a goat or a hero. The chioce is really simple if he really believes that any wrong doers will not get away with it in the end.

God sees and knows everything from Heaven. He is forgiving for the humble but hard on the arrogant and haughty. God abhors perjury but rewards and forgives a contrite heart.

22 posted on 05/28/2002 3:51:41 PM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: OKCSubmariner
After Congress's "investigation" of the Waco massacre committed in public by the FBI under Clinton, I have absolutely no confidence in anything called a "Congressional investigation". We'll be subjected to another public exhibition of self promotion by venal politicians, and nothing will come of it except more laws aimed at restricting the freedoms of citizens and more power and pay for polticians and government employees.

I'm known as the optimist in my family, as you can tell.

23 posted on 05/28/2002 4:15:32 PM PDT by Twodees
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To: Twodees,Native American Female Vet,philman_36
I understand your skepticism about Congress. But to me, calling for hearings and testimony before Congress is the right thing to do since they have oversight authority, even if they abdicate their authority.

I am raising this as a standard, as a principle that Congress should do the right thing even if I doubt they will.

But regardless of what Congress does, the US belongs to her citizens and we must get the word out to every citizen we can and in effect go over the heads of the Congress, the FBI, the CIA and the White House.

Our country and her freedoms are our birthright and we must do everything moral, ethical and legal to save her and her citizens.

Our citizens must depend and rely on themselves more by helping each other and by not relying so much on failed leaders and bureaucrats in DC and in Congress.

We must find a way to survive corrupt and weak people in our government and to preserve our country.

The spirit,determination, dedication, love of country,and moral character of many on the FreeRepublic gives me hope and confidence that we can save our country.

God can use a few good men and women to accomplish much.

24 posted on 05/28/2002 4:54:10 PM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: OKCSubmariner
I have come to the conclusion now that no one in government will ever be held accountable for anything.

So I say BRING ON THE HEARINGS! At least maybe some of the truth will come out and some changes be made.

We can not expect people like Mueller to do anything more than coverup and if they had their way they would still be saying..."We knew nothing".

I didnt want to believe the government would fail to do the one job they have and yet it is becoming very clear they did and I want to know why.

25 posted on 05/28/2002 5:15:00 PM PDT by Native American Female Vet
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To: OKCSubmariner
Yes, I agree. We do have to find a way to stop Congress from putting on another worthless dog and pony show like the Waco hearings and the impeachment farce. I put the outcome in the hands of God, as you do, rather than in the hands of corrupt men.
26 posted on 05/28/2002 6:12:14 PM PDT by Twodees
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To: OKCSubmariner
bump
27 posted on 05/29/2002 7:58:08 AM PDT by Howie
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