Simon Suspects Democratic Jurors Tainted Fraud Verdict

California Journal ^ | September 13, 2002 | David Lesher

[WOSG]

See post #30. Apologies for insinuating you didnt believe what you wrote. I dont trust the LA Times fully, neither should you. The reversal was legally correct.

[cinFLA]

So the judge ordered Hildelang to pay Simon? I missed that part.

Yes; the judge ordered Hildelang to pay the legal fees of S&S.

[On the Road to Serfdom]

Thanks, but my point still stands, the judge did not order S&S Reimbursed for their business losses due to thier "gullability". Only repayment of thier legal costs defending against the lawsuit.

[liberallarry]

The paper always gets it wrong. if you want to dig for facts, you gotta read the actual ruling

I know, I know. You're absolutely right. I was...and am...lazy. I'll get to it (I hope) and post it when I do.

By the way, your apology was greatly appreciated but not necessary. We all speak with passion (which I appreciate). I remember you from previous discussions and think highly of your point of view - which is why I didn't respond in kind. :)

[Auntie Mame]

I'll get to it (I hope) and post it when I do.

If you can find the ruling, please ping me. I've spent the last two hours searching for it. Can't get into the LA Superior Court website and can't find the ruling anywhere on the web.

I'd really appreciate the ping.

[hchutch]

Someone is going to get canned for that, I bet.

[liberallarry]

Will do.

[RogerWilko]

I'm really surprised the Sacto. Bee (should be Bee Sacto. for B.S.!!) put the article on the front page, although, when the judgement came out against Simon they had it in BIG BOLD PRINT across the top 2 lines of the paper!

[liberallarry]

Hey, since you're so concerned about fraud in our government, how about doing a few Google searches on that one fella - what'shisname? Gray Davis!

I'll gag when I vote for Davis...but I will vote for him in preference to Simon.

On another thread someone said this is the worst choice facing American voters in modern times. Do you care to dispute that?

I would've voted for Riordan in a second if I'd been given the choice...but you probably don't like him either.

[rb22982]

He's just as socialistic as Davis.

[rb22982]

oops davis here!

[RogerWilko]

People like you amaze me! You know this loser has run the state into the ground, all he cares about is collecting political cash to stay in power, and you're gonna vote for a loser like that!? Simply incredible! No wonder this state sucks with attitudes like that!!

[Coop]

Do you care to dispute that?

Absolutely. I think Simon's a fine choice.

[liberallarry]

I agree with you about Davis. But I think Simon's an inept crook. Not a great choice.

[Coop]

I'll gag when I vote for Davis...but I will vote for him in preference to Simon.

Instead of pulling a Lewinsky and gagging, why not vote for Camejo? He's running Green, so he's got to be close to many of your views.

Riordan? Dear God, no, I did not like him at all. His views are polar opposites of mine, and - even worse - he betrays his own party at the drop of a hat. He really should run as a Democrat - be honest about what he believes in. Yet he takes opposing views on almost all main party platforms, he funds Democrats running against his own "party" candidates, and I just think Riordan would have been a weak candidate against Davis.

[liberallarry]

In your view, yes. But he's not inept and he's not corrupt. Hardly negligible differences.

[liberallarry]

Instead of pulling a Lewinsky and gagging, why not vote for Camejo?

Good idea...since I feel I'd be losing if either Davis or Simon won.

[Coop]

Good idea...since I feel I'd be losing if either Davis or Simon won.

While I disagree, I do respect your views. I wish more folks on all sides of the political and/or ideological aisle could present opinions and argue respectfully, as you seem to do.

[liberallarry]

Thank you.

But this world is not of our making. We only get to live in it. :)

[rb22982]

If you dont consider taking money from interests and immediately supporting their view, not corrupt, I dont know what is. It's like HEY, I'm for sale.