Man arrested in connection with Molotov cocktail discovered at S.F. protest

Sac Bee ^ | 4/2/03 | AP - San Francisco

[NormsRevenge]

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - A man has been arrested in connection with the discovery of a Molotov cocktail device found outside an office building during one of the recent anti-war protests, The U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms and police announced Tuesday.

[ladtx]

Sounds like a terrorist to me.

[wideawake]

Give that little terrorist scumbag 20 years.

[BushMeister]

Whee!

[mountaineer]

Glad to hear it. Thank goodness he didn't use any of his weapons against people or property.

[Publius6961]

A man and a woman were spotted and videotaped planting the Molotov cocktail outside an office building.

Why hasn't the woman been arrested also?

[GSWarrior]

Now that he is out of Hallinan's jurisdiction perhaps the charges against him might actually stick.

[Politically Correct]

No, he just left it there on the sidewalk in hopes that some over adrenalinized nutcase protester would pick it up, light it and throw it.
Not enough guts to do it himself.

[XJarhead]

"Planting" a molotove cocktail? That sounds kind of weird. It's not like it's self-detonating. I wonder if they had it, and decided against throwing it, or whether they hoped it would be found as sort of an anonymous threat of future problems.

[Teetop]

Good! I hope the man gets 20 years & the woman gets 20 also. Hopefully they will arrest her too.

[Chancellor Palpatine]

According to some of our "friends" on the paleocon and paleolib left, this is an intolerable statist intrusion upon this man's absolute Constimatushunal rights to arm himself any way he wants. After all, if its intimidating to anyone else, let them get their own molotov cocktails....

[moyden2000]

Liberals are evil.

[wimpycat]

"By any (and they do mean any) means necessary", dontcha know.

[Roscoe]

an intolerable statist intrusion upon this man's absolute Constimatushunal rights to arm himself any way he wants.

As well as a violation of his Constimatushunal right to set fire to public buildings!

[wimpycat]

The ATF is involved, so Mr. Molotov is a hero.

[TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig]

"That's not my Molotov Cocktail officer, I'm just holding it for a friend."

[Roscoe]

ANARCHY IS FREEDOM!!!

[Ben Hecks]

Paging Ramsey Clark - Please go to Lost and Found, we have an item that belongs to you.

[martin_fierro]

Next, they've gotta get these bastards (nice how they're wearing masks, huh?).

[Chancellor Palpatine]

You can't point to any provision of the Constimatushun which specifically enumerates for the government the power to prohibit the burning of public buildings, you jackboot licking thugs......

[IYAS9YAS]

These types plant things ahead of time and then get to them as the goings on are going on.

[Cachelot]

No, he just left it there on the sidewalk in hopes that some over adrenalinized nutcase protester would pick it up, light it and throw it.

If this is what I think it is, it's not just "a" molotov coctail.

After one of the demonstrations in SF was broken up a while ago, a rucksack full of the things was found hidden under some bushes near an office building. The owner was thought to have brought them for use but choosing to hide them when they had to run.

[paul51]

Federal charges. Good. Take it out of the hands of SFO DA

[American Preservative]

Thanks for posting Norm.

Ping!

[trebb]

Not a terrorist, a Peace Protestor...

[mvpel]

Didn't some whining leftist claim that some conservative made up this sign?

[XJarhead]

But the molotovs were planted on the day of the march but not used. They were just left there. Why plant it days or weeks ahead of the next march?

[NormsRevenge]

My pleasure. Lots of good news here today!

[sauropod]

"Jacob Lehman, 25, of San Francisco, was arrested on Saturday without incident. He was originally arraigned on state charges, but those will be withdrawn and he was to be transferred into federal custody pending federal charges, the ATF said."

Can anyone elucidate why this is?

[sauropod]

Oh come on! Don't be a twit!

[sauropod]

Janeane Garofalo.

[wimpycat]

Probably because they have a better chance of convicting him under federal law than state law. Or maybe the suspect is involved with an organization that operates in more than one state and might be part of a multi-state investigation.

[harpseal]

It is a federal crime to manufacture, posess or place a "an infernal machine." I will make no comment on the Constitutionality of same but suffice to say it is from the interstate commerce provision.

[Carry_Okie]

You can't point to any provision of the Constimatushun which specifically enumerates for the government the power to prohibit the burning of public buildings, you jackboot licking thugs......

The Constitution leaves the discretion to draft such laws to the states. Why do you need laws prohibiting arson to be enforced at the federal level?

[demosthenes the elder]

yeah, they do... but they tend to forget to ask themselves "What is necessary?"

[finnman69]

but janeane Garafalo says that photo is a figment of our imagination.

[martin_fierro]

i'll betcha those guys have incited less violence against officers than the e-mails going around about punching peace protesters till they 'get it' has against peaceniks.

And I'll betcha, with just as much empirical evidence as you cite, that you have your head up your band fag ass. So there.

[TenaciousZ]

well there haven't been any cases of officers being shot besides the 101st guy, and that had nothing at all to do with these anarchists. I can imagine someone pounding a peacenick, so its a pretty safe bet.

Yeah there ya go. I can imagine it's true, so why pursue the facts any further.

[TenaciousZ]

i didn't say it was true. just that it was a good bet. speaking of facts, try reading whats in front of ya.

Don't mind if I do. What's in front of me is a news item that a man has been arrested in connection with a Molotov cocktail device found after a San Francisco antiwar protest.

At a similar protest, also in San Francisco, activists raised a banner that read "We Support Our Troops When They Shoot Their Officers." This was displayed on one of the activists' own websites, San Francisco Bay Area Independent Media Center (SF Indymedia). Weeks afterward, a US soldier tossed a grenade into a tent in Camp Pennsylvania, killing two officers.

Nobody here claimed any link between the banner and the attack (except you). The point here is that activists' stated aim of "peace" doesn't always correspond with their actions.

[BurbankKarl]

These weapons were found in the bushes by a mentally disabled person, who contacted the shop owner, who called the cops, who sent the bomb squad. They were hidden ahead of a protest that was to go to that area that afternoon. I believe they found fingerprints on the bottoms. There was another stash of things found down the street.


>>>"Planting" a molotove cocktail? That sounds kind of weird. It's not like it's self-detonating. I wonder if they had it, and decided against throwing it, or whether they hoped it would be found as sort of an anonymous threat of future problems.

[Cultural Jihad]

Terrorists fight for 'medical marijuana'...
http://www.marijuana.org/TimesStandard7-15-2000.htm

Terrorists fight against flouridation:
http://fluoride.oralhealth.org/papers/2000/sanmateocountytimes110600.htm

[Psycho_Runner]

Here in the State of Kalifornia, This guy will get a misdeamor, but then will sue and win for Harrassment from the Poice.

[maxwell]

Hmmmm... Just more fodder for my theory that these "anti-war" protester types really have no objection to war or violence itself per se, but to the particular administrator of it...

[Roscoe]

"He was prescribed marijuana to ease the symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder..."

A new quack use for pot!

[thatsnotnice]

…apparently NOT using a molotov cocktail will get you arrested.

You bet. Manufacture and possession is illegal. At least it used to be, and I don’t think it changed.

IIRC, they fall under the category of destructive devices. A lot of things fell into that category in the past - home-made fireworks, for instance.

You can still make, possess, and sell them – provided you have a FFL and the proper permits. That’s the way I remember it. And the destructive devices permit used to run around $3000/yr, so I suspect the guy in the article didn’t have one.