Pedophiles Seek Online Support, Societal Acceptance

CNSNews.com ^ | 6/13/03 | Steve Brown

[scripter]

Why? Are you not reading them?

C'mon, Qwerty. You're either being extremely dishonest here or you don't understand the issue. I'm not going to play games with you.

The links you've provided, which you said anyone can lookup, do not rebut my position.

[Jeff Gordon]

I doubt I would put pre-Christian Japan into the list of nations I would like to emulate any more than Sparta.

Name one homosexual accepting culture you would like to emulate.

I do have to give the Jews race kudos for durability. While you are doing your research, seek out the percentage of the citizens of Israel who are not practicing jews. It is the jewish race that is durable. The jewish religon has been carried along in the draft.

[Jeff Gordon]

You may believe you have the right to judge G-d out of all of your wisdom and knowledge, but I don't recommend it.

I do not judge God. I do judge the image of a God created by Stone Age, blood thirsty men.

[Jeff Gordon]

Fisting isn't sex. It can never in any conceivable understanding lead to reproduction.

Interesting. You are saying Bill Clinton was right. Oral sex is not sex. It can not lead to reproduction therefor it is not sex.

Damn! We nearly impeached him. Such and injustice. </sarcasm.

[Qwerty]

"The links you've provided, which you said anyone can lookup, do not rebut my position."

Well, obviously you aren't comprehending. Hopefully lurkers will have better luck.

[AdamSelene235]

Alexander the Great. Died at age 32 of an STD.

Source?

[John O]

There is no point in controlling feelings that aren't wrong.

That's just the point. Any sexual attraction to the same sex is wrong. It is unhealthy, abnormal, dysfunctional, perverse and always the result of mental sickness or trauma.

These attractions must be cured for the health of the sufferer and of society. Just like kleptomania must be cured.

[John O]

I stand corrected on the killing of the first born of a nation. I had fogotten the punishment that the Egyptians brought on themselves.

Now, what about that dragging people behiond pickup trucks verse?

[John O]

I do not judge God. I do judge the image of a God created by Stone Age, blood thirsty men.

We weren't talking about islam and the moon god allah here. We were talking about the real God, the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and George Bush. Jesus the Christ.

[Jeff Gordon]

...homosexuals in the navy?

You forgot the part where "It ain't queer unless you are tied to the pier." Homosexuality in the Navy is bad. Sea Pussy is something different.

[Jeff Gordon]

We were talking about the real God, the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and George Bush. Jesus the Christ.

What's with this "we?" The God you are talking about is your fantasy, not mine.

[Jeff Gordon]

I had fogotten the punishment that the Egyptians brought on themselves.

All those innocent little babies sleeping next to their moms deserved to die? They brought it on themselves? Given that the slaughter of innocent babies is OK with you, I would hate to find out where you stand on abortion.

[viaveritasvita]

And Godspeed to both of you. But keep in mind that even God "gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies, to exchange the truth of God for the lie. They worship and serve the creature rather than the Creator...for this reason God gave them up to their vile passions...." (See Romans 1:20-28)

As far as the "fight" goes, well, the battle belongs to the Lord. We are to speak the truth and we have, ad nauseum.

Christianity aside, how hard is it for anyone (lurkers included) to understand that sodomy is vile, unnatural, shameful, debased, and immoral? How much debate do we need to engage in on a conservative forum to simply state that we are not supportive in any way of the homosexual agenda?

My feeling is that the people who support the sodomite and lesbian agenda (who are sodomites/lebians/bi or indifferent to morality or lefties) are dragging us down to their level of discussion. Look again at the After the Ball summary, my friends. Queer Too, Jeff Gordon, et al. are utilizing most of the arguments set forth in this homo handbook. These people are evolutionists and have made up their minds against God and His design for human sexuality. They are expert at twisting scripture (as is Satan) to excuse their lusts. Demonization of conservative ideals is practically a leftie art form. Say, think, or write anything contrary to their ideology and YOU are the bigot, anti-science, fanatical, homophobic, ignorant, blahblahblah.

This site advertises itself as a forum for conservative debate. As such, I think most lurkers are going to have a conservative bent, but certainly we need to beware of lefties who register and post for obvious reasons. Used to be the FR debate was among conservatives within the conservative spectrum; now we have to debate with a bunch of liberals. I don't get enough of that elsewhere??

[viaveritasvita]

Regarding some of the posts (in the 320 range): You see how low "they" have brought the debate!!!??

Who gives a damn if Japan or any other culture accepts homosexuality??!! So did Rome and it burned to the ground. So did the once great Greece.

Fisting is about violence, period. It's about how shocking and disgusting can we twist human sexuality to our sick enjoyment?

IMHO, sex is not only about procreation; it's about becoming one in a wildly wonderful way designed by God for men and women. It's about married companionship. It's about the human need for touching and release. Anything LESS is outside the boundaries set for our own good by God.

John O and ArGee: see my post 353.

ArGee: Just curious: Are you Jewish or Messianic?

L'Chaim!

[scripter]

Well, obviously you aren't comprehending. Hopefully lurkers will have better luck.

I wasn't aware until now just how far you'll push the obfuscation. Obviously will say anything to push the gay agenda. Indeed, the lurkers will see the truth. That is: percentage wise homosexuals are more likely to molest children.

Every single link I provided supported my position. In rebuttal you provided links that did not rebut my position; in fact your links also supported my position, they just used lower percentages.

[Qwerty]

"That's just the point. Any sexual attraction to the same sex is wrong."

Based on what?

"It is unhealthy, abnormal, dysfunctional, perverse and always the result of mental sickness or trauma."

Your opinion, followed by a falsifiable claim. If homosexuality is ALWAYS the result of mental sickness or trauma, then why are there homosexuals who have neither?

"These attractions must be cured for the health of the sufferer and of society."

What if the "sufferer" isn't suffering? Why should it be society's business?

[scripter]

Indeed the tactics of those who disagree with us are spelled out in the summary of After the Ball. Yet they don't care about being manipulated and used and that is what's so strange - intelligent folks falling for a very obvious agenda.

[Jeff Gordon]

Queer Too, Jeff Gordon, et al. are utilizing most of the arguments set forth in this homo handbook.

Where can I get this homo handbook you are so familiar with? I would ask to borrow yours, but I do not like reading with rubber gloves to protect my hands.

[scripter]

Where can I get this homo handbook

Realizing you're not serious... but just in case somebody else wants it:

After the Ball: How America Will Conquer Its Fear and Hatred of Homosexuals in the '90s

Perhaps a used copy is available. I purchased mine from Bolerium.

Amazon has it as well.

[John O]

All those innocent little babies sleeping next to their moms deserved to die? They brought it on themselves? Given that the slaughter of innocent babies is OK with you, I would hate to find out where you stand on abortion.

God's actions are above our ability to judge. He owns everything and can do as HE wishes. The egyptian children died because the egyptian leaders would not obey God. Likewise God destroyed Pharoah and his men who followed Israel. God will not be mocked and He always gets the last word. Remember how Egypt killed all the (male) children of Israel. That's how Moses ended up in Pharoahs house in the first place. As to abortion, God has given us very specific direction on who can be killed and for what. An innocent child is never included in those rules. We cannot kill babies (in fact we are commanded throughout the OT to not sacrifice our children.)

But of course you know all this already, you just refuse to accept it because then you'd have to face your sin.

One last question. What scripture tells us we can drag people behind our pickup trucks?

We'll now return more to the topic of the thread. You can choose to believe the truth or not. That's between you and God. I pray you'll choose the right way.