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Men Accused of Sexually Assaulting Teen [Men HIV positive]
KCTV5 ^ | 07/21/03 | Amy Anderson

Posted on 07/21/2003 3:01:43 PM PDT by KS Flyover

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To: KS Flyover
Age 13? That's prime Boy Scout age.

21 posted on 07/21/2003 7:34:25 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: pram
Wouldn't the first word have 3 syllables?
22 posted on 07/21/2003 7:39:41 PM PDT by bluefish
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To: KS Flyover
Hey I missed this story on the major network evening news, I must have blacked out for a moment while they were bringing it. I guess I will have to read the cover story in Time and Newsweek this week.
23 posted on 07/21/2003 8:11:55 PM PDT by redangus
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To: bluefish
ldn't the first word have 3 syllables?

I stand corrected.

First word: three syllables and begins with "v" and ends with "e", second word has two syllables and begins with "j" and ends with "e".

Duh - I run off a generator, (only run it in the evening) and my laptop had about 2 minutes of battery time left. I don't work well under time pressure!)

24 posted on 07/21/2003 8:28:18 PM PDT by First Amendment
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To: KS Flyover
Words defy me.

I mean, there were a million different things pouring through my mind as I read the article, about how this kid has been given a death sentence by two selfish, evil men. But I cannot speak my mind. I cannot really express my heart, for I know those words would almost certainly get my account banned, or at least suspended.

So please understand this is really all I can say about it.

25 posted on 07/21/2003 8:48:30 PM PDT by Houmatt ("Best that we can do is alert people there to LP and the truth that FR has fallen."--The Toddler)
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To: Sloth
Hmmmm.... Did anyone notice that the two Homos caught engaging in sodomy in Texas were of different background.
The Supreme Court ruled it entirely proper.
26 posted on 07/21/2003 8:49:28 PM PDT by duckln
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To: KS Flyover
I'd love to say this is unbelievable... but it isn't :-( And one is already a registered sex offender?

Murder, rape and violent crimes against children should be ONE STRIKE and you're out... life in prison no chance of parole.
27 posted on 07/21/2003 8:58:09 PM PDT by Tamzee (Peace is the prerogative of the victorious, not the vanquished.... Churchill)
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To: Tamsey
"Murder, rape and violent crimes against children should be ONE STRIKE and you're out... life in prison no chance of parole."

I agree. This low-life freak-show should not have been let back out on the streets.

Thomas Luce, 46 . . . . Luce has been a registered sex offender since 1997. Independence officer Bill Pross said that status came from past instances in which Luce solicited young boys for sex.

"He would take little business cards with his name and phone number and sometimes attach them to pornographic pictures of himself and leave them at bus stops, actively soliciting young boys," Pross said.

Luce denied any wrongdoing when police interviewed him, but Chester admitted to the crimes . . . .

http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/news/2348243/detail.html

28 posted on 07/21/2003 9:11:30 PM PDT by KS Flyover
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To: Tamsey
Murder, rape and violent crimes against children should be ONE STRIKE and you're out... life in prison no chance of parole.

Sorry - I totally disagree. These demons should be executed - IMMEDIATELY - (no appeals for 20 years) - and preferably very painfully.

29 posted on 07/21/2003 9:37:07 PM PDT by First Amendment
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To: redangus
"Hey I missed this story on the major network evening news, I must have blacked out for a moment while they were bringing it. I guess I will have to read the cover story in Time and Newsweek this week."

Yes, I'm sure that this shocking story about two HIV positive homos, who sodomized a 13 year old boy and had gay sex with 20 to 30 other teen boys, will go national at any minute now . . . . . . . .

Then again, maybe not.

30 posted on 07/22/2003 5:22:19 AM PDT by KS Flyover
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To: Houmatt
This is evil personified. What these two sodomites did is malicious and perverse in the extreme. Having five sons (ages 13 and down) I would gladly die a thousand times over than see one of them go through what happened to this boy. God has turned these two over to their own desires and lusts as described in Romans 1. I shudder when I think of the eternal fate that awaits such as these before a holy and just God.

May the Lord clothe this young boy with His grace and mercy and love. Pray for this child.
31 posted on 07/22/2003 7:50:20 AM PDT by bereanway
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To: KS Flyover
I'm sure this will be on the ABCNBCCBSPBSCNN evening news.
32 posted on 07/22/2003 7:51:24 AM PDT by dennisw (G-d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: KS Flyover
Who are we to judge?
33 posted on 07/22/2003 8:11:05 AM PDT by johnb838 (Understand the root causes of American Anger.)
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To: scripter
BTTT
34 posted on 07/22/2003 8:31:55 PM PDT by GrandMoM ("Vengeance is Mine , I will repay," says the Lord.)
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To: Yehuda
Good grief! No wonder this story has already died out without even making it out of the KC area (except for this post).
36 posted on 07/22/2003 9:23:24 PM PDT by KS Flyover
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To: TheBigB
Yeah, I think ole sparky would do them well.
37 posted on 07/22/2003 9:26:34 PM PDT by nmh
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To: scripter; Yehuda; TheBigB; bereanway; redangus; pram; Tamsey; Houmatt; ibheath; EdReform; ...
Latest update (NAMBLA connection):
Story last updated at 3:36 p.m. Wednesday, July 23, 2003

HIV status not yet certain

No additional victims have come forward

By DARLA McFARLAND
The Examiner

The HIV status of two men accused of sexually abusing an adolescent boy is still undetermined four days after one of he men told investigators they were infected and that the pair abused as many as 25 boys.

"It is our intention to get the tests done as soon as possible," said Independence police Detective Carl Perry. "We will probably have to seek that through the prosecutor's office."

Perry did not know when an HIV test would be performed or how long it might take to get results. The only identified victim, a 13-year-old Kansas City boy, has been tested for the virus at a local hospital. The results are not yet available, Perry said.

Thomas Luce, 46, of Independence, and Juan Chester, 39, of Kansas City, are charged with statutory sodomy of the 13-year-old. Both are being held in Jackson County jail on $250,000 bond.

During interviews with police, Chester allegedly admitted abusing the victim and told police that he and Luce had sexual contact with 25 other boys in the metro area. Chester also said he and Luce were both HIV positive and taking virus suppressant medication.

Police found the two men and the victim at Luce's Independence apartment in the 1100 block of South Brookside on Sunday. The boy's mother directed the police there after a friend of her son's retrieved Luce's phone number from a caller ID.

A search of the home uncovered a stash of pornography and literature from a group called NAMBLA, or the North American Man/Boy Love Association, which promotes sexual relations between adults and children.

Police found no HIV medications during the search of Luce's apartment, Perry said. Investigators also found no photos, names or phone numbers leading to other potential victims. Authorities are urging anyone that may have had sexual contact with the defendants to come forward.

"Even if they don't come and talk to us, which we hope they will, certainly we encourage them to see a doctor," Perry said.

As of this morning, no additional victims have come forward. The investigations unit can be reached at (816) 325-7330.

Police said Luce and Chester used telephone chat lines to contact victims. The phone lines are generally billed as single adult connections and are advertised in newspapers and magazines. The lines are sometimes visited by children.

"It works pretty much like an Internet chat room only on the phone," Perry said.

Cyrilla Bender, president of Independence-based Mothers Outraged at Molesters, or MOMs, said Tuesday she was saddened by the case.

"It is awful to think these predators may have exposed children to a deadly disease," Bender said. "We will be following the case closely."

The MOMs outreach education program encourages parents to be especially wary of the Internet where a vast majority of molesters contact victims. They encourage the use of software filters that block adult language and other inappropriate material.

"The most important thing, of course, is direct supervision. Parents should know who their children are communicating with," Bender said.

The group urges parents to check their computers Internet history to see what sites their children are visiting. Parents are also urged to check up on any new adult in their child's life, especially if there seems to be an unusual level of interest in the relationship or if the child seems to be sneaking or trying to conceal the contact.

"If you have doubts, a gut feeling that something isn't right, you should look closely," Bender said.

One resource available to the public is the county sex offender registry maintained by the Jackson County Sheriff's office. Under a Missouri bill passed earlier this month, the Missouri State Highway Patrol will begin posting a statewide registry on the Internet sometime in August.

To reach Darla McFarland, e-mail darlam@examiner.net or call her at (816) 350-6321.

http://www.examiner.net/stories/072303/new_072303006.shtml


39 posted on 07/23/2003 3:10:48 PM PDT by KS Flyover
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To: KS Flyover
A search of the home uncovered a stash of pornography and literature from a group called NAMBLA, or the North American Man/Boy Love Association, which promotes sexual relations between adults and children.

Does Lawrence Frisof know about this? This is just additional fuel to the fire!

40 posted on 07/23/2003 3:25:22 PM PDT by Houmatt ("Best that we can do is alert people there to LP and the truth that FR has fallen."--The Toddler)
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