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Letters, Small Packages Get to Troops Quicker ["The ideal size is a shoebox"]
DpD - American Forces Press Service ^ | Aug. 28, 2003 | K.L. Vantran

Posted on 08/29/2003 10:07:24 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl

American Forces Press Service

Letters, Small Packages Get to Troops Quicker

By K.L. Vantran
American Forces Press Service

WASHINGTON, Aug. 28, 2003 – The U.S. Postal Service and the Military Postal Service Agency process about 2 million pounds of mail a week for troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, and some items make it to the recipient faster than others, Navy Lt. Cmdr. Brian Lomax, agency chief of plans and policy, said here today.

Depending on where it originates, a letter or package spends "a couple of days" in the USPS system before it reaches either San Francisco or New York City, Lomax said. Then it travels another 16 to 19 hours by plane before landing in Kuwait or Bahrain. From there, it's picked up or delivered by motor vehicle.

Once in theater, a letter takes seven to 14 days to reach the service member, while a package usually takes 14 to 24 days, Lomax added. Packages make up 90 percent of the mail.

"The mail is getting to the troops," he said. "The troops are happy. Our intent is to continue to make improvements and exceed their expectations."

Using automated mail scanning equipment and increasing the number of people working at mail facilities are two improvements that have speeded up mail delivery, Lomax said.

People who mail letters and packages also can help, he added. "The size of the package plays an important role," Lomax said. "Large packages take up a lot more room. If there's a choice between taking one large box or a lot of smaller boxes and letters, the large box will stay (at the mail facility). The ideal size is a shoebox. It's also important to correctly address the package."

Aerosol cans, alcoholic beverages, ammunition, fireworks, flammable or explosive materials and illegal or infectious substances are among items that cannot be mailed to service members in Iraq and Afghanistan. For more information, call 1-800-ASK-USPS or visit the USPS Web site.

Though it's not one of the restricted items, Lomax recommends against sending chocolate. "Chocolate and 140 degrees makes chocolate paste," he said.

Cookies and sunflower seeds seem to travel well, he added, and placing cookies in a coffee can helps to protect them.

Heat also takes its toll on the tape used in packaging, Lomax said. The USPS Web site states a clear or brown packaging tape, reinforced packing tape or paper tape is best. Cord, string and twine should not be used, because they can get caught in the mail processing equipment.

Service members love to get mail, Lomax continued. "When I was out at sea, it was always a joy to get a letter from home or a copy of a report card. It's an exhilarating feeling: 'I'm out here doing my job, and they haven't forgotten who I am.'"

Lomax said the mail system's success is a result of the joint effort of the USPS and his agency. "We have motivated soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines who are committed to doing their job to make sure the mail gets to the troops," he said.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: carepackages; goodnews; rebuildingiraq; supportourtroops
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1 posted on 08/29/2003 10:07:25 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: cateizgr8
PING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2 posted on 08/29/2003 10:09:02 AM PDT by Britton J Wingfield (TANSTAAFL)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
The the Post Office (or Military for that matter) were smart they would make a "Operation Iraqi Freedom" box that's a uniform size. Stuff anything you want in there up to 5# and it costs a set rate to get over to our troops.

Wrap it in red white & blue and everyone will know where the package is going. Don't even have to look at the label. Sorting is more efficient and people can see you're supporting someone over in Iraq when you're dropping the package off.
3 posted on 08/29/2003 10:13:28 AM PDT by lelio
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To: MJY1288; Calpernia; Grampa Dave; anniegetyourgun; Coop; Ernest_at_the_Beach; BOBTHENAILER; ...
"When I was out at sea, it was always a joy to get a letter from home or a copy of a report card. It's an exhilarating feeling: 'I'm out here doing my job, and they haven't forgotten who I am.'"

Mail's getting through. Sometimes paper's better than electronic. Can keep and reread, and pass around. Jokes are good. Freep rally threads. No porn, but inspirational artwork would at least make the postal workers smile.

If you want on or off my pro-Coalition/anti-wanker ping list, just ping.

4 posted on 08/29/2003 10:17:07 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("They are taking the fight to the enemy every day and we're winning."-Sgt. Maj. M. Fuss 4th ID 8/22)
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To: lelio
That's a great idea.
5 posted on 08/29/2003 10:18:25 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("They are taking the fight to the enemy every day and we're winning."-Sgt. Maj. M. Fuss 4th ID 8/22)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
bookmarked. Is that a picture of you RC? Just teasing.
6 posted on 08/29/2003 10:20:23 AM PDT by floriduh voter (Freepers Please Help Terri Schiavo.. Fla. Judge Picking Starvation Date on 9-11-03)
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To: All
Source correction. DoD, not 'DpD'. Doh.
7 posted on 08/29/2003 10:20:49 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("They are taking the fight to the enemy every day and we're winning."-Sgt. Maj. M. Fuss 4th ID 8/22)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
It accomplishes a couple of things:
a) uniform so you can stack em easily
b) all look the same so you can sort them easily
c) show your troop support
d) strike up some interesting conversations while in line at the PO ("Oh, your son's in Iraq? Mine's over in Germany right now ...")
e) gives a US company a printing job
f) the PO can have a "mail your troops" kiosk in downtown lunch spots
g) no squabbling about the price. If its less than a certain weight its a certain price. Ba da bing, you're out of the PO line.

Etc. Hey, that's just after 5 minutes of thinking about it.
8 posted on 08/29/2003 10:26:05 AM PDT by lelio
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To: boxerblues
Thought this would be the perfect thread for you to once again announce your great program you've got supporting our troops. :-)
9 posted on 08/29/2003 10:27:04 AM PDT by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: 2Jedismom; Wneighbor
One ping only please...

Have you noticed this?
10 posted on 08/29/2003 10:28:59 AM PDT by Ramius
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Well, right now, Im working on Mike's birthday package, and it's bigger than a shoe box...LOL...I better finish it so it gets there in time......no matter what size box I have sent it, usually takes anywhere from 10 days to three weeks.
11 posted on 08/29/2003 10:40:12 AM PDT by mystery-ak (The War is not over for me until my hubby's boots hit U.S. soil.)
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To: floriduh voter
Yes, of course. (^;
12 posted on 08/29/2003 10:42:51 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("They are taking the fight to the enemy every day and we're winning."-Sgt. Maj. M. Fuss 4th ID 8/22)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
lol
13 posted on 08/29/2003 10:45:02 AM PDT by floriduh voter (Freepers Please Help Terri Schiavo.. Fla. Judge Picking Starvation Date on 9-11-03)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
"it was always a joy to get a letter from home or a copy of a report card.

That line just brought a lump to my throat. My husband always attends our sons' school conferences, and reviewing report cards with the boys is his special responsibility. It just reminds me of one more sacrifice being made by our military and their families at home. I am grateful to them for their many sacrifices for our freedom.

14 posted on 08/29/2003 10:46:50 AM PDT by Think free or die
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl; Kathy in Alaska; MoJo2001; LindaSOG; LaDivaLoca; bentfeather; Bethbg79; ...
Letters, Small Packages Get to Troops Quicker
["The ideal size is a shoebox"]
PING
Thank You Ragtime Cowgirl




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These are two of the many links in the USO Canteen Post Office.

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15 posted on 08/29/2003 10:47:42 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Have you said Thank You to a service man or woman today?)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
I have found that insured items get there faster no matter what the package size. The large boxes of fans made it faster than letters did. Go figure.
I just sent a small insured package this morning. I wonder how well that will work?
You guys can drop a note at bluestarmothers.org to our troops once a week. Families print messages left on our forum area for troops support and stick these messages in care packages and letters.
16 posted on 08/29/2003 10:49:21 AM PDT by armymarinemom
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
...Small Packages Get to Troops Quicker ["The ideal size is a shoebox"]

Need to show this to Mrs ladtx. She keeps sending boxes the size of small refridgerators and wonders why it takes so long.

17 posted on 08/29/2003 10:51:50 AM PDT by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
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To: mystery-ak; Ramius; Wneighbor; Think free or die
I sent a BUNCH of packages to Afghanistan...usually the 12" square, 8" deep Priority mail boxes that you get free from the post office. Never had one take longer than 2 weeks! Once it only took 9 days!

Thanks for the ping, rami...

'I'm out here doing my job, and they haven't forgotten who I am.'"

That got to me...gave me a lump in my throat too.

18 posted on 08/29/2003 10:52:56 AM PDT by 2Jedismom (HHD with 4 Chickens)
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To: mystery-ak
No fireworks!

I didn't see any prohibition against lacy lingerie.


19 posted on 08/29/2003 10:53:21 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("They are taking the fight to the enemy every day and we're winning."-Sgt. Maj. M. Fuss 4th ID 8/22)
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To: ladtx
That made me smile! She sounds like her heart is the size of a small refridgerator...
20 posted on 08/29/2003 10:54:00 AM PDT by 2Jedismom (HHD with 4 Chickens)
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To: 2Jedismom
She just sent one yesterday.

She's not very tall but, she is all heart. Had our 34th anniv 2 days ago and wouldn't trade her for the world.

21 posted on 08/29/2003 10:56:51 AM PDT by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Im saving the lingerie for when he gets back....LOL....wait a minute, when he gets back it will be flannel time, not that he'll care.
22 posted on 08/29/2003 10:57:54 AM PDT by mystery-ak (The War is not over for me until my hubby's boots hit U.S. soil.)
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To: armymarinemom; 2witty; A Jovial Cad; AmerRepb; amigatec; Annabelle; annieokie; aragorn; Archdean; ..
Also, the Blue Star Mothers in here Tulsa have a warehouse full of already prepared boxes that they just can't afford to send, from what I understand. A donation to them for postage would really help them out...I bet it's the same in other places as well...


23 posted on 08/29/2003 11:02:47 AM PDT by 2Jedismom (HHD with 4 Chickens)
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To: 2Jedismom
BTTT!!!!!
24 posted on 08/29/2003 11:22:54 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; dodobird; All
Thank you, Tonkin! Great info.

I know many Freepers have their own special projects for the troops. Wouldn't a general FR 'care package' / drive thread(s) be great? Freepers could share their own experiences, hints. There are Freepers with money who hate shopping, and Freepers who love shopping who would do even more with $$ help. We tried to pair 'em up at the clothing drive thread.

A general 'care package' thread would also let the troops see what's being done for them back home each week, and how glad the people are to be doing it for them.

Plug for the ARCENT crew:

Our Hero Soldiers need Civvies & Things for Qatar R & R:
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25 posted on 08/29/2003 11:28:22 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("They are taking the fight to the enemy every day and we're winning."-Sgt. Maj. M. Fuss 4th ID 8/22)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
Please send all checks and personal greetings for “Operation USO Care Package” to: USO-Operation USO Care Package C/O Pentagon Federal Credit Union P.O. Box 19221 Alexandria, VA 22320-9998

Donation on the way Tonkin.

26 posted on 08/29/2003 12:00:00 PM PDT by Soaring Feather
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
ooops meant to ping you to the post I made to Tonkin.
27 posted on 08/29/2003 12:02:53 PM PDT by Soaring Feather
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Keep the troop mail flowing!
28 posted on 08/29/2003 12:06:46 PM PDT by blackie
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
Support Our Troops ... BUMP!
29 posted on 08/29/2003 12:07:38 PM PDT by blackie
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To: armymarinemom
drop a note at bluestarmothers.org to our troops once a week. Families print messages left on our forum area for troops support and stick these messages in care packages and letters.

* Thank you, armymarinemom.

30 posted on 08/29/2003 12:54:04 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("They are taking the fight to the enemy every day and we're winning."-Sgt. Maj. M. Fuss 4th ID 8/22)
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To: Britton J Wingfield
I guess it's time to send Matt another package :)
31 posted on 08/29/2003 12:58:59 PM PDT by cateizgr8
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To: 2Jedismom
You rock!

I will pass the info at #23 to others as well.

32 posted on 08/29/2003 1:08:30 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("They are taking the fight to the enemy every day and we're winning."-Sgt. Maj. M. Fuss 4th ID 8/22)
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To: bentfeather
Ping for Tonkin, 2! (^;
33 posted on 08/29/2003 1:10:31 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("They are taking the fight to the enemy every day and we're winning."-Sgt. Maj. M. Fuss 4th ID 8/22)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Just about every webpage for every state posted on the Blue Star Mothers of America website is having some sort of care package drive and accepting donations of items and financial help with postage.
34 posted on 08/29/2003 1:16:47 PM PDT by 2Jedismom (HHD with 4 Chickens)
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bookmark
35 posted on 08/29/2003 2:40:49 PM PDT by shadowman99
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
From there, it's picked up or delivered by motor vehicle.

One of my brother's jobs has been to pick up and deliver mail. Not sure if he's still on that detail or not!

The ideal size is a shoebox

Ok, I'm laughing my butt off here -- you should've seen the last box I sent. Huge. It contained 6 rolls of paper towels, a gigantic (200+) package of baby wipes and a bunch of other small stuff. Some things just take up room! LOL!

36 posted on 08/29/2003 3:24:07 PM PDT by StarCMC (God protect the 969th in Iraq and their Captain, my brother...God protect them all!)
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To: armymarinemom
Families print messages left on our forum area for troops support and stick these messages in care packages and letters.

Can you tell me how that works? I send care packages to my bro and some of his soldiers. How would I get these letters to include??

37 posted on 08/29/2003 3:27:19 PM PDT by StarCMC (God protect the 969th in Iraq and their Captain, my brother...God protect them all!)
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To: StarCMC
If you open the messages on the current week you will notice a link to click for print. This will open a page that is printable from your browswer. The print is located to the left of the buttons that say "Add Reply" "New Topic" "New Poll"
38 posted on 08/29/2003 3:40:19 PM PDT by armymarinemom
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To: armymarinemom
THANK YOU!! Am also sending a link to the organization's website to my mom. She is proudly flying her "blue star banner" at her house!
39 posted on 08/29/2003 3:52:26 PM PDT by StarCMC (God protect the 969th in Iraq and their Captain, my brother...God protect them all!)
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To: StarCMC
a gigantic (200+) package of baby wipes and a bunch of other small stuff. Some things just take up room! LOL!

Family and friends are allowed to send the big packages. They know to send the good stuff. (^;

Please tell your brother how proud we are of the awesome work they are doing in Iraq daily (and that we are finding and sharing the news).

40 posted on 08/29/2003 4:32:22 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("They are taking the fight to the enemy every day and we're winning."-Sgt. Maj. M. Fuss 4th ID 8/22)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
I used this site below to send 3 packages to Dan... he got them all in a VERY TIMELY manner and said they were GREAT!!!
This site is hard to navigate though, so I have linked directly to the care package page... (I HOPE).
The cost was ONLY $10.00 which is WAY less than it would have cost me to buy and send the items...
Anyway, it was a GOOD experience and I thought I would share!!!

Tonk,
PLEASE BUMP IF YOU THINK IT'S A GOOD ONE.


 
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41 posted on 08/29/2003 5:13:51 PM PDT by M0sby (Proud Marine Corp's Wife!)
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To: M0sby
"Tonk, PLEASE BUMP IF YOU THINK IT'S A GOOD ONE."

It will be getting "some air time" in the Canteen
and will be included in the USO Canteen Post Office.
Thank You
42 posted on 08/29/2003 5:41:50 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
Hey thanks!
I hope it is helpful to somebody... it was for me! And I got it from FR a while back from Al Varment??? I think...
43 posted on 08/29/2003 8:31:36 PM PDT by M0sby (Proud Marine Corp's Wife!)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Bump!
44 posted on 08/29/2003 8:32:46 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl

Cookie Monster Dittos to Our Troops

45 posted on 08/29/2003 9:05:20 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Late, as usual, and busting butt to gather the Pro-Coalition links to e-mail. :-)

Just sent two more boxes out yesterday to Iraq. I use the Post Office's 12" X 8" Priority boxes usually. Not too big, not too small. Big enough to get the goodies overseas, small enough to keep me under control.....I want to send them LOTS of EVERYthing on their wish lists! LOL!! My main concern is putting a bright spot in their day and hopefully that mission is being accomplished.

Off to e-mail these links I've gathered then get a little shut-eye.
46 posted on 08/30/2003 3:44:51 AM PDT by radu (May God watch over our troops and keep them safe)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
Thanks for the ping, Tonk.

The USO Canteen Post Office is such a treasure trove of info for those who looking for different ways to show support for the troops. Thanks for posting some of the links here and for filling the Post Office with so much wonderful info. I've certainly made use of several things there, as have sooooo many others. :-)
47 posted on 08/30/2003 3:52:49 AM PDT by radu (May God watch over our troops and keep them safe)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Bump!
48 posted on 08/30/2003 9:19:45 PM PDT by windchime
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Sorry for the late reply -- was out of town for the holiday weekend. I will pass on your goodwill to my brother. THANK YOU for your input on the canteen and for helping us know that there really IS an America out there that Rush and others talk about that supports this war. {{{Hugs}}}

Star*
49 posted on 09/01/2003 7:27:58 PM PDT by StarCMC (God protect the 969th in Iraq and their Captain, my brother...God protect them all!)
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To: StarCMC
My pleasure, Star.

Click on my homepage any time. I update the links daily. There are quite a few of us sharing the news of the daily SUCCESSES of the troops with others. There really is an America out there that Rush talks about that supports this war. (^;

50 posted on 09/01/2003 7:46:39 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl (“A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity."- Winston Churchill {and aids evildoers- RC})
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