Queen Rania of Jordan Gives Laura Bush a Shawl Decorated With Swastikas

Reuters ^ | Sept. 23, 2003

[Alouette]

Thu Sep 18,11:30 AM ET

Jordan's Queen Rania (L), Jordan King Abdullah II (2nd L), U. S. President George W. Bush, and U.S. first lady Laura Bush (R) pose after Bush and King Abdullah spoke to the press following a meeting at the presidential retreat, Camp David, Maryland, September 18, 2003. The two leaders discussed the Middle East peace process. REUTERS/Larry Downing

Close-up detail of shawl:

[Alouette]

I know that the swastika is a prominent motif in Indian art, but the Indian swastika is upright and clockwise, and the decoration on the shawl is rotated 45 degrees and counter clockwise. Furthermore Queen Raina is no Hindu.

[Alouette]

FRmail me to be added or removed from this pro-Israel ping list.

[MontanaBeth]

Send it back postage due.

[CygnusXI]

The swastika has a looong history, before the Nazi's.
Just FYI.
Bad taste? Uuhmm... yeah.

The Nazi's hijacked the swastika.... kinda like the homo's and the rainbow. LOL

[clamboat]

One cannot even make the clockwise-anticlockwise argument because both designs are represented on the shawl.

Oh man, the protocol chief must have been having conniptions when they saw that. Nothing to do but graciously accept the gift and then put it away, never to be seen again...

[Texas_Dawg]

Haha. That's pretty funny.

[mewzilla]

Arafat probably picked it out.

[Mamzelle]

I'd like a closer look--I'm interested in textile design. You could also call a pinwheel design a swastika, if you so chose. This looks kinda pinwheel-y at first glance.

A shame the Nazis spoiled such a good graphic.

As for swastikas being part of Indian design tradition, I believe that is American Indian of of the Plains tribes, but I'm not positive.

[r9etb]

Queen Rania is a certified babe. That's all I've got to say.

[TomGuy]

To quote Judge Judy: "So ?!?"

It is a design that existed long before the Nazi use of it. Australian Aborigines, North American Navajoes, Southeast Asians are just some of the cultures where it showed up---centuries, even millenia, before the Nazi.

[mewzilla]

She's also a certified Palestinian. No doubt why What's-his-name married her.

[Wisconsin]

I have a Persian rug from my Great Aunt, circa 1910. It has swastikas in the design -- fortunately they don't leap out at you.

Also strangely enough my brother has an Indian bead belt given my grandfather around the time of Pancho Villa which also has swastikas in it.

The only logical conclusion is that the Indians were a lost Iranian tribe.

[adam_az]

Certified babe?

She is an apologist for suicide bombers and other assorted terrorists.

I don't know about you, but it's not something I find particularly attractive in a woman.

Would you eat feces, too, if it were cooked up real nice?

[Alouette]

As for swastikas being part of Indian design tradition, I believe that is American Indian of of the Plains tribes

By Indian I was referring to the Bombay and Delhi natives, but you are right, it is also used by Native Americans.

So, is Her Majesty a Comanche, a Navajo or a Hopi?

[Salem]

"Send it back postage due."

Nah, have an aide send the ugly thing down to the motor pool as a rag to shine the Presidential limo.

[r9etb]

Would you eat feces, too, if it were cooked up real nice?

Sigh.

[Alouette]

Send it to me and I will clean my bathroom floor with it.

[Texas_Dawg]

Sigh.

Ditto.

[stuartcr]

That's about the most stupid thing I've heard today.

[Conservative4Ever]

As for swastikas being part of Indian design tradition, I believe that is American Indian of of the Plains tribes, but I'm not positive.

You are correct. I have seen American Indian artifacts in museums with the swastika design. I assumed it is an ancient design, then marred forever by the Nazis.

Red

[Sender]

Maybe this was innocent and unintended, but it's certainly a rather large gaffe to say "oops, didn't notice those swastikas there, sorry".

[yonif]

Would you eat feces, too, if it were cooked up real nice?

lol

[blackdog]

The Jordanians oddly enough are one of the only nations who can be credited with keeping Palestinians on an Allah Damned short leash.

Jordan is one of the few countries in the region with effective domestic security and relative freedom.

The Palestinians who live there want absolutely nothing to do with Yasser Arafat.

[Hank Rearden]

Is that an explosive suicide-sash she's wearing?

[bmwcyle]

And how many has she worn in public until now?

[r9etb]

Is that an explosive suicide-sash she's wearing?

Nah, she's just glad to see you.

[mewzilla]

Oh, I understand that. But the Jordanians don't want any more immigrants, either, do they? Which means they have a vested interest in keeping the Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza thinking they have a prayer of getting what they want.

[APRPEH]

imagine the talk at the DC dinner parties... DC elitist woman 1 to DC elitist woman 2 in a low whisper, "oh my, i didnt know swastikas were in this year?"

[sheik yerbouty]

Fakakta.

[APRPEH]

of course the truth is that it is a vast right wing conspiracy

[E Rocc]

Jordan is one of the few countries in the region with effective domestic security and relative freedom.

Jordan also has a peace treaty with Israel that contains extensive mutual defense provisions. Jordan and mainstream-Israel are friends.

However, the "Transfer" fanatics are neccesarily anti-Jordanian because they want to dump three million displaced and disgruntled people into their territory. Plus King Abdullah has clearly said that while he is a friend of Israel's and supports her right to defend herself, he does not support Israeli sovereignty over Haram Al-Sharif and/or the West Bank.

-Eric

[adam_az]

How do you figure?

How would you react to someone saying "Osama bin Ladin is such a HUNK!"

My point is this:
YOU CAN'T POLISH A TURD.

[LayoutGuru2]

Things that make ya go hmmmmmmmm...

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=swastika+history

[bigfootbob]

"Would you eat feces, too, if it were cooked up real nice?"

Never heard an analogy worded like that before. I like it.

[ohioman]

What you said about the Queen is right on! Don't let a few posers stop you. I bet Jeezabele and Delila (sp?) were attractive little succubi too.

[stuartcr]

Someone mentions something about a womans appearance...nothing about her politics, or anything else...and you say what you did....that's how I figure.

[r9etb]

She is an apologist for suicide bombers and other assorted terrorists.

I decided to check up on your claims. Her position seems to be something along the lines of what she says in this interview.

She seems to be rather far from an apologist for suicide bombers and terrorists.

[cmak9]

I'm sure the shawl caused some consternation, but I saw a swastika design in a tile mosaic in some very old Roman ruins in Morocco once.

[blackdog]

One organism's waste product is another's buffet. That's just the way nature cleans up after one another. My composting pile can reduce an entire bovine carcass into humus in just three weeks. Dead skunk? Odor gone in two and skunk gone in four.

I feed it sheep manure, horse manure, placenta's, hosehold garbage, junk mail, chicken feathers, and such. It's about 50' X 30'X 5'.

My daughter dug a foot deep hole, buried a twinkie, checked it a week later and it looked as fresh as the day she unwrapped it. I guess some feces is not pallatable no matter how you serve it up?

[El Gato]

She's also a certified Palestinian. No doubt why What's-his-name married her.

Most people in Jordan are. Jordan, once known as Trans-Jordan, is the part of Palistine that was assigned to the Arabs under British administration. Funny how there was no call for a "Palistinian" homeland when the west bank was part of Jordan. It wasn't originally part of Trans-Jordan, but the Arabs moved in anyway, and then the Arab Legion (Jordanian Army) took and held it in the first Arab-Israeli war when the Arabs thought they could push the Jews into the sea.

[Tax-chick]

The swastika was the insignia of the 45th Infantry Division (Arizona, New Mexico, and Oklahoma National Guard ... American Indians) for many years, until they were mobilized in 1941 for WW2. Whoops! They're famous now as the Thunderbird Division.

What a dweeby looking gent the new king of Jordan is!

[twigs]

No doubt why What's-his-name married her.

Did you see her picture? I'm sure her ancestry is not the only reason he married her! Actually, at the time he married her, he was not in line for the throne.

[Billthedrill]

It kind of freaked me out to see this figure on Buddhist art in Japan and China, but it's much older than Nazism. I'm honestly thinking we have a non-issue here.

[adam_az]

However, the "Transfer" fanatics are neccesarily anti-Jordanian because they want to dump three million displaced and disgruntled people into their territory. Plus King Abdullah has clearly said that while he is a friend of Israel's and supports her right to defend herself, he does not support Israeli sovereignty over Haram Al-Sharif and/or the West Bank.

Abdullah is a disingenuous, lying bastard.

Jordan REJECTED the 1948 partition lines and invaded, occupying and ANNEXING the entire west bank and Jerusalem, and in 1952 granted all the West Bank arabs FULL JORDANIAN CITIZENSHIP, which was revoked later.

Dumping? What kind of "relative freedom" is there when Jordan capriciously grants and revokes citizenship according to short-sighted political whim by a non-elected dictator who only rules Jordan because the Brits felt bad that the House of Sa'ud kicked the Hashemites out of Saudi Arabia, which the Hashemites (direct descendents of Muhammad, erased be his name) had ruled in part or whole for ages?

Abdullah is a REVISIONIST. We had a revolution in our country a couple centuries ago, to throw off the tyrrany of a king and the tyranny inherent in any sort of royal system. Yet today, there are still people enamored by people based on inherited divinity. Sick.

Abdullah is a revisionist, and his wife is a terrorist apologist.

Like I said... if you polish a turd, it's still a turd.

[dinok]

Looks like a bimbo...I don't think she has the IQ required to think this through.

"like...what's a swastika? It just looked cool when I baught it."

[MoonMullins]

By total coincidence, I saw her last year in St. Tropez. For the record, she is smokin' hot. In person she is even better looking than Cindy Crawford.

[historian1944]

The 45th Division had a patch that was an American Indian swastika that was changed to a thunderbird in 1939.

Both can be seen at the following website: http://www.5ad.org/swastika.html

[novacation]

I've got a pic of Jackie Kennedy as a child wearing an American Indian costume with big Swaztikas on it. It was a very commonly used symbol in the US before WWII. They aren't all Nazi's.

[TontoKowalski]

How would you react to someone saying "Osama bin Ladin is such a HUNK!"

Osama would stone the slut because her hair isn't covered.

Politics aside, this woman is a stone fox.

[blackdog]

According to "Bitter Harvest" by whas her name......Of all the Arab nations, Jordan has by far accepted most Pali's. I think it's somewhere around 17,000,000 since the Balfore Decision process. The closest neighbor is something less than a few million and most of those are domestic slaves.

The catch is also that Jordan has a thriving economy which allows complete economic participation of the Pali's they've taken.

I'm all for bashing the Arab world full steam ahead, but one's ignorance of history and fact seems to be license to spout off much of which they know little. I have been guilty myself a few times. Theraputic none the less.

The ignorant bliss of being an American and the first amendment. Good entertainment from time to time.

A few glasses of wine and a keyboard and I'm George Custer on a bad day!