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Lieberman still open to Republican candidacy
The Hill ^ | January 25, 2010 | Jordan Fabian

Posted on 01/30/2010 10:53:34 AM PST by Clintonfatigued

Indepdendent Sen. Joe Lieberman (Conn.) this weekend reiterated that he has not ruled out running as a Republican for reelection in 2012.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Connecticut; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: lieberman
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1 posted on 01/30/2010 10:53:34 AM PST by Clintonfatigued
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To: Clintonfatigued

He needs to stay where he is.


2 posted on 01/30/2010 10:54:48 AM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

He is just a tease to piss off the Dems.. He is a reliable Democrat vote on just about everything. He has no intention of being anything else


3 posted on 01/30/2010 10:55:01 AM PST by MNJohnnie ("The trouble with socialism is that eventually you run out of other peoples' money" Lady Thatcher)
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To: nutmeg; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; Norman Bates; LdSentinal; ExTexasRedhead; ...

If Lieberman were to become a Republican, it would be great PR. It would further highlight that the ‘Rat Party has been taken over by extremists (though that happened a long time ago). Problem is, Lieberman has cast a lot of bad votes over the years.


4 posted on 01/30/2010 10:56:18 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (Liberal sacred cows make great hamburger)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Seems like you should reconsider your position on Obamacare then, Mr Lieberman.


5 posted on 01/30/2010 10:56:34 AM PST by powderfan
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To: MNJohnnie

I agree. The only thing we can count on Lieberman for is the war on terror. Otherwise just a typical dimoKKKRAT.


6 posted on 01/30/2010 10:57:05 AM PST by Parley Baer
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To: Clintonfatigued

after making himself into a 10 minute hero story before he voted for obamacare

anyone else suffering from “Fudd Fatigue” now? Like, everytime Lieberman throws out another coy hint about party switching.

Give it up, Joe. We know you are willing to sleep around but always end up back with the boys in the democrat party whom you yearn to impress.


7 posted on 01/30/2010 10:58:20 AM PST by silverleaf
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To: Clintonfatigued

Old Joe is nothing more than a self opportunist...a la Arlen Specter! He’s just a little better at it!


8 posted on 01/30/2010 10:58:24 AM PST by tflabo (Restore the Republic)
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To: Clintonfatigued
I don't see why he wouldn't. The Dems are openly hostile toward him and the party won't contribute one dime to his campaign. If he joins the Republicans, he'd at least get money and support from the GOP.

He'd be the squishiest RINO in the history of RINO's, on every issue except the War On Terror, but he wouldn't vote for Harry Reid to be the Majority Leader.
9 posted on 01/30/2010 11:02:43 AM PST by Question Liberal Authority ("My...health care plan is a Bolshevik plot... which will destroy America." - Barack Obama)
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To: Clintonfatigued
If Lieberman were to become a Republican, it would be great PR. It would further highlight that the ‘Rat Party has been taken over by extremists.

Good news, bad news isn't it?

It would also underscore the lack of ANY core principles a Republican is expected to have.

10 posted on 01/30/2010 11:03:01 AM PST by Norman Greenbaum
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To: Clintonfatigued

Maybe if we pick up 9 Senate seats in November, Lieberman will make the switch early (or at least caucus with our party) and give us the majority.


11 posted on 01/30/2010 11:05:59 AM PST by Drea
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To: Clintonfatigued

The absurdity of someone who scored a 92% liberal rating from the ACU in ‘08 switching to the GOP is self-evident. If every Democrat in Congress with a similar percentage switched to the GOP, one of those who could’ve switched would’ve been Zero himself, because he got a 17.


12 posted on 01/30/2010 11:06:51 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Hell, Arlen Spector and the Maine Girls have much more conservative voting records than Liberalman. Joe is a wolf is sheep’s clothing. Stay put, Joe!


13 posted on 01/30/2010 11:09:08 AM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: Clintonfatigued

Take a hike, Joe. There’s a bulldozer headed to Washington, D.C. this November and it’ll be taking out Rats and Rinos in both houses. Y’all should start packing your things.


14 posted on 01/30/2010 11:11:37 AM PST by budwiesest (It's that girl from Alaska, again.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Whatever. Lieberman isn’t a contender but he is free to spend his money however he thinks.


15 posted on 01/30/2010 11:13:35 AM PST by o_zarkman44 (Obama is the ultimate LIE!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

This only confirms how close the ideologies are between the OP(formerly the GOP) and the socialist RATs. They are one big socialist Republicrat party.


16 posted on 01/30/2010 11:19:28 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Comparative Advantage
Ri-i-i-i-i-i-ght. Where'd Arlen Specter and his "more conservative voting record" get us? What matters is the content of the character, not the quantitative analysis of the voting record.


17 posted on 01/30/2010 11:20:23 AM PST by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: Drea
Maybe if we pick up 9 Senate seats in November, Lieberman will make the switch early (or at least caucus with our party) and give us the majority.

LIEberman is as much a flaming socialist as Reid. LIEberman caucuses with the RATs.
18 posted on 01/30/2010 11:21:07 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Oceander

“What matters is the content of the character, not the quantitative analysis of the voting record.”

What is that supposed to mean?


19 posted on 01/30/2010 11:22:07 AM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: o_zarkman44

Let’s face it, what we do NOT need are some more retreads that have conned themselves into thinking that they are the GOP’s/country’s salvation. We need to keep our minds and hearts open to the newcomers, such as Sarah Palin. The old ones simply aren’t cutting it anymore.


20 posted on 01/30/2010 11:22:58 AM PST by JayVee (Joseph)
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To: Comparative Advantage
It means that the so-called "conservative voting record" is an utterly meaningless, and quite possibly actively misleading, measure of a candidate, given that Arlen Specter, with his "more conservative voting record" has certainly not been as much of a friend to conservatives as has Lieberman.


21 posted on 01/30/2010 11:23:53 AM PST by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: bgill

another RINO


22 posted on 01/30/2010 11:26:15 AM PST by personalaccts (Is George W going to protect the border?)
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To: Comparative Advantage

On the other hand, Joe might feel freed up to cast more conservative votes when he is within the Pub tent and is protected from the wrath of his own party. I think the switching point in Joe’s brain was when his own Dems (the far left ones) attacked his beloved wife. I think he saw a large chunk of his own Party for what it truly is. I see a switch at some strategic point, and although Joe wouldn’t be a reliable vote on lots of issues, he would be on some important ones, and if it sways the balance of power to the Pubs, go for it. Joe, if he wanted money to back his campaign, would not vote constantly like a Dem or he would get no money to run with. It’s a crap shoot as to whether Joe would be a plus or just neutral, but neutral is better than nothing; it’s not an actual Dem vote on key issues.


23 posted on 01/30/2010 11:26:33 AM PST by flaglady47 (Our President speaks with forked tongue.)
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To: Oceander

Oh please! Liberalman is no FRIEND to conservatives. Get your head out of your arse!!


24 posted on 01/30/2010 11:26:54 AM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: Clintonfatigued
Joe make up with the Democrat Party and get reelected as what you are.

You are not a Republican. (But you are more Republican than many in the party right now...[sigh])

25 posted on 01/30/2010 11:30:54 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the next one...)
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To: Comparative Advantage
How about a little more argument, and a little less acting like a veteran poster on democraticunderground? What, are you going to throw a

at me next?


26 posted on 01/30/2010 11:32:27 AM PST by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: Oceander

You mean similar to your response? Calling a spade a spade, anybody who can confuse Joe Liberalman as being a friend to conservatives simply cannot be taken seriously, especially on a conservative site like FR.


27 posted on 01/30/2010 11:41:17 AM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: Comparative Advantage
You're suprised that I respond to your ad hominem attacks with something less than an academic analytical argument? What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. And, just to cut to the chase, Arlen Specter voted for Obamacare, Joe Lieberman did not. If you cannot digest that fact, then one wonders what you're doing on a conservative forum.


28 posted on 01/30/2010 11:43:57 AM PST by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: Clintonfatigued
First a long time Democrat, then a term as an Independent, and now thinking about becoming a Republican?

Does Joe Lieberman think he's Brett Favre, or something?

29 posted on 01/30/2010 11:48:33 AM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: Oceander

Liberalman voted for cloture on the Senate healthcare plan. That’s as good as voting for it. Even if what you tried to suggest was true, that one vote would be good enough in your opinion to believe that Liberalman is the kind of politician we need representing the GOP? He’s not anywhere close to having a more moderate voting record like Arlen Spector or the Maine girls. And, no, I do not have any use for Snarlin’ Arlen. Joe LIBERALMAN is just about as PRO-ABORTION and PRO-BIG GOVERNMENT as you will find in Congress. Apparently, you are of the same mind.


30 posted on 01/30/2010 11:55:06 AM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: Clintonfatigued

Hey Joe, whadaya know... thinking of coming in from the cold? beginning to see the light of day? things beginning to make sense to ya? Well good for you, that only proves its never too late, that is if your a true believer. But guess what Joe, none of us over here believe that your a true believer. Ya see, we understand that for career politicians it all about staying relevant... and you know what Joe? you ain’t relevant no-mo. If you do switch and get voted in, yer gunna eat your spinach and your gunna love it... yer gunna get in line like everyone else and yer gunna take new marching orders, as a new generation of Conservative Republicans and Independents run the place. Or you can just go home, love on your grandkids and Great grandkids and let this new generation do the heavy lifting to put things back right again for this Nation. Either way Joe yo ain’t relevant no-mo.


31 posted on 01/30/2010 12:06:01 PM PST by dps.inspect
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To: Clintonfatigued

All of us would have different opinions on this if it happened, but all of us would agree that the DU would be fun reading on that day.


32 posted on 01/30/2010 12:07:19 PM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: dps.inspect

Amen! Liberalman has played a large part in this nation’s demise over the last 30+ years. He should stick to his statist roots.


33 posted on 01/30/2010 12:08:32 PM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: Comparative Advantage
Clearly, there's no point in trying to have a reasoned discussion with you, so I won't belabour the point anymore. Goodnight, gracie.


34 posted on 01/30/2010 12:17:03 PM PST by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Typical Joe.

Lieberman likes to lean toward doing something conservative, then flips back to the liberal side. Back in Dec 08, Lieberman said he would align himself with the GOP to give them a filibuster. He didn’t. Lieberman claimed he would vote against ObamaCare, he ended up voting for it.

Joe Lieberman is an orthodox liberal.


35 posted on 01/30/2010 12:59:29 PM PST by yongin
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To: Clintonfatigued

Might as well team up with McCain for a republican presidential run.


36 posted on 01/30/2010 1:14:27 PM PST by sbMKE
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To: Oceander

Your definition of “reasoned” means agreeing with you.

Cheers!


37 posted on 01/30/2010 1:48:29 PM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: yongin

“Typical Joe.

Lieberman likes to lean toward doing something conservative, then flips back to the liberal side. Back in Dec 08, Lieberman said he would align himself with the GOP to give them a filibuster. He didn’t. Lieberman claimed he would vote against ObamaCare, he ended up voting for it.

Joe Lieberman is an orthodox liberal.”

I thought Liberalman voted for ObamaCare. I knew he voted for cloture but couldn’t remember if 60 votes was needed for final Senate passage. No suprise. With politicians like Joe, you have to closely monitor their voting record and pay little attention as to what comes out of their mouth. He’s a dyed in the wool liberal.


38 posted on 01/30/2010 1:53:33 PM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: Clintonfatigued

I think it is too late for him to run as a Republican. He was the 60th vote for ObamaCare.

Lieberman will have to run as an Independent and hope the GOP doesn’t field a candidate to split the vote. I guess Lieberman could flip to GOP after the Novemeber elections. Who would stop him?


39 posted on 01/30/2010 1:54:21 PM PST by MarkAccord
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To: yongin

Joe Lieberman is not an orthodox liberal. You know not what you speak.


40 posted on 01/30/2010 1:55:18 PM PST by MarkAccord
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To: Clintonfatigued
He is an advocate for cap and trade. We need someone who will kill climate-change hoax.
41 posted on 01/30/2010 2:00:35 PM PST by opentalk
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To: Comparative Advantage
Really? Funny that, because (a) I never provided any sort of a definition, and (b) you're wrong - apparently, that's become rather a bad habit of yours.

"Reasoned" means providing reasons rational statements of logic applied to facts to produce persuasive arguments. Here, let's try a simple one:

First, some premises:

(1) Arlen Specter has a voting record that is more conservative than that of Joe Lieberman;

(2) Arlen Specter voted to pass Obamacare and Joe Lieberman did not; and

(3) Obamacare is radically antithetical to conservativism.

Now for a conclusion that can be inferred from the given premises:

Joe Lieberman acts less antithetically to the interests of conservatives than does Arlen Specter, despite the fact that he has a less conservative voting record, and therefore (a) Joe Lieberman is more of a friend to conservatives than Arlen Specter is, and (b) the "conservativeness" of an individual's voting record is no reliable indicator as to whether that person will, or will not, act in a manner that is antithetical to the interests of conservatives.

Now, your mission, if you want to engage in reasoned debate instead of silly name-calling, is to refute those conclusions using the various tools of rational argumentation available to you, including, for example, by demonstrating that (i) the conclusions do not follow from the premises, or (ii) one or more of the premises is false.

That is "reasoned" argument. Give it a try, you might like it.


42 posted on 01/30/2010 2:18:27 PM PST by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: Clintonfatigued; SunkenCiv; ml/nj; ExTexasRedhead; Just A Nobody; RedRover; fieldmarshaldj; ...
Now is Lieberman thinking of “running as a Republican” as simply a matter of convenience or of really switching parties? I suppose that if the GOP could allow New Englanders like Chafee, Weicker, (turncoat) Jeffords, and the two ugly Maine broads into their ranks, they could work with Lieberman, especially if his switch might be vote # 51. Lieberman is a solid defense conservative but conservative on almost nothing else, really not more left than some of the RINOs in the Senate now and before.
43 posted on 01/30/2010 2:35:06 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93; All
Lest we forget...


44 posted on 01/30/2010 2:51:22 PM PST by MestaMachine (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2426869/posts SUPPORT RINO FREE AMERICA)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Another statist chameleon jerkwad. GET LOST JOKE.


45 posted on 01/30/2010 3:40:08 PM PST by PGalt
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To: Oceander

You really are so full of yourself.

Your second premise is WRONG. Your boy Liberalman voted for ObamaCare, too. He supported both cloture and its final passage. Look it up.

So much for your faulty premise and “reasoned” argument.

Please tell me that you are of college age and not a mature adult. Your philosophical bent might ingratiate you at Starbucks but this is FR. We are much more down to earth here.


46 posted on 01/30/2010 4:54:28 PM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: Comparative Advantage
Bravo, you learned your lesson. I've accomplished my end for tonight. I won't give you any more quizzes tonight though, because no doubt the unaccustomed exercise still has your head buzzing.


47 posted on 01/30/2010 5:09:59 PM PST by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: Oceander; Comparative Advantage

Excuse me, Liarman voted FOR the health care bill NOT just cloture.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=111&session=1&vote=00396

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=111&session=1&vote=00395

the votes are identical to each other, no Senator voted for cloture and against the bill. 60-39 (Bunning (R) absent)


48 posted on 01/30/2010 6:35:39 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN | NO "INDIVIDUAL MANDATE"!!!!!!!)
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To: Impy

Thanks for the info! I couldn’t remember if the vote for passage also required 60 votes (though I kind of figured it did). In this case, Liberalman was true to form.


49 posted on 01/30/2010 6:40:51 PM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: Impy
Little late to the bonfire, but thanks for the links. It's nice to see some actual reasoned argument breaking out here now.


50 posted on 01/30/2010 6:44:10 PM PST by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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