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Sarah Palin or Mike Huckabee: Who Gets Your Vote?
The Stir at CafeMom ^ | December 13, 2010 | Julie Marsh

Posted on 12/13/2010 4:37:17 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Supporters of Sarah Palin seem to view her as the second coming of Christ, and given her self-appointed code name of "North Star," it seems that she agrees with them. Speculation on a 2012 presidential run by Palin almost sounds as if her candidacy is divinely ordained.

Next thing we know, she'll tell us she was born in a barn because all the hospital beds were occupied.

Not so fast, cautions Politics Daily. Mike Huckabee could pose fierce competition for Sarah Palin, even among those Republicans who, inexplicably, think she's a well-qualified candidate.

Ever play that game on long road trips where you have to choose between two seemingly equally horrible scenarios, like giving a 20-minute speech in front of your high school graduating class while naked or subsisting entirely on bugs for a month? That's how I view a choice between Palin and Huckabee. I'll take what's behind door number three, thanks.

No, really? I have to choose? Then it's got to be Huckabee. (How's that for a campaign slogan? It's got to be Huckabee. Copyrighting that now.)

He's as socially conservative as she is, or perhaps even more so given his ministry. He's a FOX News commentator like she is. He drops his g's occasionally, though less often than she does. But who's more qualified? Hands down, Mike Huckabee. Furthermore, who would I rather have representing our country in the world? Huckabee.

I'm admittedly impressed by Politics Daily's recap of how, as Arkansas governor, "Huckabee faced a legislature with 89 Democrats out of 100 legislators in the House and only four Republicans in the 35-seat Senate. Yet, Huckabee found a way to govern." Palin knows how to govern people who agree with her. Governing those who may not march in lockstep requires more finesse.

With the advent of the Tea Party, plus the ostracizing and name-calling within the Republican party, a successful GOP candidate will have to bridge those gaps, as well as work with Democrats. Huckabee demonstrated he could do that at the state level. Palin isn't interested in working with anyone who doesn't agree with her, and her governing style at a national level would appear to be more dictatorial than consensus-building.

Huckabee's personable and has the same sort of beer-drinking, pretzel-munching, football-watching appeal that George W. Bush did, but he's far more well-spoken than the former president. Palin attempts to cultivate that ability to connect with people, but hers is a caricature of Huckabee's, and it arouses suspicion. Those who love her are convinced they know her, but the rest of us aren't so sure.

Play along with me (Democrats, Independents, Libertarians, Socialists, even you commie pinkos -- everyone's welcome): Naked speech, or bugs for lunch? Huckabee or Palin?


TOPICS: Arkansas; Campaign News; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: 2012; freepressforpalin; huckabee; huckloserstuffagain; palin; pardonmegovernor
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To: apoxonu

Ditto “neither.” We actually have a wonderful, albeit imperfect list which will narrow as the money comes or doesn’t come in: Governors Christie, McDonnell, Barbour and Daniels for openers. A lot can happen in a year or two.


51 posted on 12/13/2010 5:15:44 PM PST by masadaman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Pence/Palin


52 posted on 12/13/2010 5:16:09 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Palin.


53 posted on 12/13/2010 5:17:31 PM PST by Free in Texas (Martin Luther King was a Republican and Karl Marx played the stock market...'nuff said.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
I can't believe anyone would choose Nanny Huckabee over Palin.

You know, as much as I admonish people to remember there that there are tens of millions of people who don't remotely share their views and opinions, and when doing strategic and tactical electioneering you have to take them into account...

I truly can't fathom what would possess someone to support Huckabee. I don't know anyone who would remotely support Huckabee, and I don't know anyone who would know anyone who would support Huckabee. I don't know how I would even communicate with a Huckabee supporter, other than through hand gestures, grunts, and moans.

Another theme of mine is that polls (that at least are attempted to be scientific) are, by and large, pretty accurate. So Huckabee's current high poll numbers are likely real. I just can't fathom how or why. Huckabee is probably the one guy where I'd just stay home and not vote in 2012, out of sheer bewilderment.

54 posted on 12/13/2010 5:17:51 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: GOPJ
I was around when Ronald Reagan was running the first time - they were much worse on him.

I was too, but I sure don't remember atacks on his children, or such low-blow personal attacks. She's also been hit on her gender.

You are very much correct when it comes to RINO attacks. Very similar, up until Reagan's convention speech of course. Lincoln did the same thing; he fought tooth and nail for a convention speech and won.

Not saying it's impossible, and I defend Palin almost daily, but somehow I don't see her as POTUS happening. I may change my mind as time passes and if she announces.

55 posted on 12/13/2010 5:20:41 PM PST by apoxonu
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Between Huckabee and Palin? I don’t know why any freeper would support Huckabee but I can certainly see why freepers would support Palin.


56 posted on 12/13/2010 5:20:58 PM PST by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: allmendream

He cannot raise money. He knows this.
I do not think he will even run.


57 posted on 12/13/2010 5:21:19 PM PST by JaneNC (I)
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To: csivils

I guess I won’t vote for anyone. If people are going to do a write in and allow Obama to win if they don’t get their way, I am going to stay home and say the hell with it.

You all want Obama, go for it.


58 posted on 12/13/2010 5:22:19 PM PST by dforest
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Huck is as slick and weasely as Bubba, but he is a better Baptist.


59 posted on 12/13/2010 5:23:52 PM PST by joelt
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Who do I choose? The huckster who raised taxes even more than clinton? The huckster who fights to get rapistists out of prison, just so they can kill? The huckster who is more concerned with himself than America. The answer is evident. NO HUCKSTER!!


60 posted on 12/13/2010 5:25:13 PM PST by John D
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
There is NO Republican on the horizon capable of forging a winning coalition like Reagan did in 1980. Palin doesn't cut it. Huckabee sure as hell doesn't cut it. The most fervent supporters of each spends more time attacking the other than both combined spend attacking the Democrats.

The remaining alternatives on the Republican side are lightweights or fundamentally and fatally flawed. We're doomed unless the Democrats fracture so badly that they run two candidates in the general election (ne as a supposed "independent").

61 posted on 12/13/2010 5:25:31 PM PST by behzinlea
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Palin

Huckabee is not even an “or” in my vocabulary.


62 posted on 12/13/2010 5:26:20 PM PST by citizencon
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To: JaneNC
People point out disparagingly, that in 80% or so of some races (last I heard) the person who spent the most won.

Well people don't “bet money” if they don't think you have a chance of winning. There is a good reason people cite Vegas odds, and handicap football games with the Vegas approved “point spread”.

Capitalism tends to work really well in assessing the value and feasibility of a project.

Huckabee for President, not too surprising, isn't attracting much attention from people with money and brains who want to get in early on a likely good thing.

63 posted on 12/13/2010 5:26:37 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: MissesBush
None of the above. John Thune or Bobby Jindal.

Good luck with that. Out in the world beyond hard-core conservative bloggers and political junkies, no one's ever heard of John Thune, and Bobby Jindal is only slightly better known.

Between the two, only Jindal could hope to gather enough support to even mount a primary bid. Even so, he probably wouldn't get more than a few percentage points of the overall vote, given the overwhelming support for Palin.

64 posted on 12/13/2010 5:27:52 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Between the two, Palin.


65 posted on 12/13/2010 5:30:34 PM PST by WHBates
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To: MissesBush

jindal cant run he isnt eligible. he isnt natural born


66 posted on 12/13/2010 5:31:49 PM PST by remaxagnt (`)
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To: starlifter

Agree. Neither.


67 posted on 12/13/2010 5:32:27 PM PST by VeeP22
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Yup, the Huck got the Democrats in Arkansas to raise taxes.

That was mostly to get out of the Ma and Pa Kettle syndrome ~ but some were left behind.

68 posted on 12/13/2010 5:33:01 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: behzinlea

Palin is totally able to forge a winning coalition.

Palin can win 50.7% of the vote, which is what Reagan got.


69 posted on 12/13/2010 5:33:55 PM PST by ansel12 (Lonnie, little by little the look of the country changes, because of the men we admire.)
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To: apoxonu

Being attacked by the dems and rhinos might help her WIN the primary. People are waking up to the bs.


70 posted on 12/13/2010 5:35:35 PM PST by Quickgun (As a former fetus, I'm opposed to abortion. Mamas don't let your cowboys grow up to be babies..)
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To: diverteach
What? You don't like squirrel meat?

Look, it's about the best meat on Earth. And if you do that again you'll get your comments hijacked as the reference point for a NEW discussion of eating squirrel, then hunting squirrel, then fostering squirrel, and maybe how INFERIOR a species the non-squirrel eating part of the population really is.

71 posted on 12/13/2010 5:35:42 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Supporters of Sarah Palin seem to view her as the second coming of Christ, and given her self-appointed code name of "North Star," it seems that she agrees with them. Speculation on a 2012 presidential run by Palin almost sounds as if her candidacy is divinely ordained. Next thing we know, she'll tell us she was born in a barn because all the hospital beds were occupied.

Ann Coulter wrote a book about people like Julie: Godless.

72 posted on 12/13/2010 5:37:11 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: apoxonu
The media is hostile to GOP candidates, but I don't think any candidate has ever gotten as much heat as Palin. Think she'd make a good POTUS but don't think she'll win the primary with that kind of baggage.

"Baggage"? There isn't any such thing as a Republican presidential candidate without "baggage", if what you're referring to, is a trailing wake of media slanders, attacks, and hit pieces.

The media has been trashing Republican presidential candidates since at least Eisenhower. Nothing's changed.

In fact, the best barometer of who our best choice is, is which candidate the liberal media has attacked the most. There's no question that it's Palin, this time around. They fear her like no one since Reagan.

73 posted on 12/13/2010 5:38:51 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Neither........Ron Paul for the republic!


74 posted on 12/13/2010 5:39:52 PM PST by Clovis_Skeptic (The answer to 1984 is 1776!)
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To: patriot08
Pence/Palin

That gave me goosebumps!

Pretty much covers the conservative issues from one end to the other with that pairing.

75 posted on 12/13/2010 5:40:54 PM PST by digger48
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Huckabee = McCain = Obama second term.


76 posted on 12/13/2010 5:41:01 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Huckabee or Palin?


In the Primary..... Neither

That said I’d vote for either in the General.


77 posted on 12/13/2010 5:43:29 PM PST by deport
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No Mike Huckabee.
No Mitt Romney.
No Jeb Bush.
No Ron Paul.


78 posted on 12/13/2010 5:44:28 PM PST by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: Clovis_Skeptic

Ron Paul needs to show that he can win an election outside of his little, safe, district first, He needs to try to be a Governor or Senator first.


79 posted on 12/13/2010 5:46:08 PM PST by ansel12 (Lonnie, little by little the look of the country changes, because of the men we admire.)
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To: apoxonu

I couldn’t have put it better myself. However, between the two, I would definitely pick Palin.


80 posted on 12/13/2010 5:46:16 PM PST by conservativebuckeye
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sarah is far far far far and away better than the Huckster


81 posted on 12/13/2010 5:47:55 PM PST by GeronL (#7 top poster at CC, friend to all, nicest guy ever, +96/-14, ignored by 1 sockpuppet.. oh & BANNED)
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To: Clovis_Skeptic

Ron Paul (born August 20, 1935)..... getting a little old, don’t you think?


82 posted on 12/13/2010 5:48:36 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It won’t be Huckabee.


83 posted on 12/13/2010 5:48:52 PM PST by sport
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ron Paul/Cindy Sheehan of course. /sarc


84 posted on 12/13/2010 5:51:57 PM PST by mnehring
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To: onyx

Fraud Paul is getting old in more than just age.


85 posted on 12/13/2010 5:53:33 PM PST by mnehring
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To: DemonDeac
Neither. Both aren’t close to being equipped to run the free world. Palin is even less equipped and electable than the Huckster.

Simply saying such a thing does not make it so, my friend.

Sarah Palin's 18 year record of public service has been scrutinized and analyzed on this website, and throughout cyberspace for over two years now. On just this one website, literally thousands of individual minds have performed a monumental and intensive examination of her qualifications and experience, and have given her their highest marks. She is without doubt, the most vetted potential presidential candidate in US history.

Another thing... The eventual winner of the Republican nomination will have to have the backing of the Tea Parties. As of now, Sarah Palin is the overwhelming favorite among Tea Partiers and like-minded patriot rebels.

Huck doesn't have anywhere near the sort of standing with the Tea Parties that Sarah Palin does. Neither does Mitt. That's your top tier. All of the other usual suspects are in the second or third tier of potential hopefuls.

You may as well get prepared to vote for Palin for president, because that's who our nominee is going to be.

86 posted on 12/13/2010 5:53:33 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sarah


87 posted on 12/13/2010 5:55:56 PM PST by lonestar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's troubling to hear so many denigrate Sarah Palin for resigning her Governorship. Had she not quit she and her family would be in the poorhouse by now from having to pay attorney fees fending off all the frivolous law suits filed by the leftist media and the liberal and Rino politicians.
She's the real deal and that scares the pants off the power elite.
88 posted on 12/13/2010 5:57:02 PM PST by drypowder
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To: snippy_about_it

actually hucky could.... simply the reason is the media will not bash a pastor in some fear of....i pick Sarah and she so dang hot


89 posted on 12/13/2010 5:59:57 PM PST by FreeperDoll
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To: onyx

Ron Paul may be old...but what has youth brought to the table..socialism. Ron is a true patriot, and a statesman.


90 posted on 12/13/2010 6:05:46 PM PST by Clovis_Skeptic (The answer to 1984 is 1776!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why even juxtapose them like that? It’s like saying, “Who do you want, Sarah Palin or Spongebob Squarepants?”

NO ONE is clamoring for Huckabee to run except Huckabee. Sarah Palin attracts thousands wherever she goes, her books fly off the shelves, and she’s singlehandedly launched a podunk cable network. She is a STAR and I would follow her anywhere — just like Ronald Reagan.


91 posted on 12/13/2010 6:06:32 PM PST by Blue Ink
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I can answer this way, if Huckabee is the nominee, I won’t vote for him. If Palin is, I will think about it. Gone are the days when I will vote for a party or their canned message. Unless a candidate has the message of small 10th amendment style govt as a goal, and is honest, I will not support them with a vote.


92 posted on 12/13/2010 6:07:46 PM PST by runninglips (Don't support the Republican party, work to "fundamentally change" it...conservative would be nice)
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To: Clovis_Skeptic

I think he’s a crank, (basely enitrely on his votes and politcal positions), and he *is* too old to be taken seriously for a run at president.


93 posted on 12/13/2010 6:09:36 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Missing from the discussion so far is: who will win California, Illinois, New York, the New England states, Washington and Oregon, and all the states that have been very blue for the last several presidential elections?

Those states also hold Republican primaries and elect delegates to the Republican convention. I doubt Palin or Huckabee will be especially strong in those states. Whether it’s Romney or Pawlenty or someone else, some primary candidate will win a good chunk of votes in the blue states.

Still a lot of unknowns about the coming Republican primaries.


94 posted on 12/13/2010 6:12:13 PM PST by Will88
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
uh . . . not even a contest. Governor Palin.
95 posted on 12/13/2010 6:15:06 PM PST by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: Blue Ink
NO ONE is clamoring for Huckabee to run except Huckabee.

You made me stop and realize that I've never seen a Huckbot here. Nowhere else, for that matter.

In fact, the only positive mentions I've seen about him are in the left-wing media. I've never talked to anyone who supports him for president, nor have I ever seen such a post online. Anywhere.

As far as I can tell, it's only the pundits and the left-wing media that are keeping his name alive. I'm not sure why he gets so many mentions around here. He's a non-starter.

96 posted on 12/13/2010 6:26:04 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Huckabee puuuuuuuush continues.

He would take votes away from any real conservative in the South.

He's Mitt's stalking horse.

97 posted on 12/13/2010 6:26:26 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: mnehring

I with you completely.


98 posted on 12/13/2010 6:27:15 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: ansel12
Nonsense. Palin will be lucky to pull 45 percent of the vote. More likely she'll top out at about 42 percent. Her supporters are zealous and loud. But it is the so-called independent voters that really elect presidents, and independents are firmly against Palin by about a two to one margin. They already know her, and if they haven't decided to like her by now, they never will.

A Palin candidacy gives us a Democrat president. So does a Huckabee or a Romney candidacy

We are so screwed.

99 posted on 12/13/2010 6:28:07 PM PST by behzinlea
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Cummon 2ndDiv! You forgot the BARF ALERT!
100 posted on 12/13/2010 6:29:21 PM PST by DWar ("The ultimate destination of Political Correctness is totalitarianism.")
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