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Not a fan: Krauthammer calls Palin 'rather weak' and gives her 'no chance of winning' in 2012
The Daily Caller ^ | December 31, 2010 | Jeff Poor

Posted on 12/31/2010 2:46:02 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: roostercogburn
Talk about a closed mind.

Palin did NOT help Angle in Nevada.

According to this chop-logic, the only reason candidates she DID endorse elsewhere around the country won only because of her endorsement, or in spite of it? I would love to hear your answer on this, unless you're of the belief that the only contest that should be used to judge her effective usefulness to candidates she endorses is explicitly Reid vs Angle.

Independents might have broke for Angle, but Palin’s endorsement probably fired up more rats to get out and vote.

Karl rove, is that you? This "analysis" is absurd from the ground up, and again does not reflect reality when taken into context of all races she endorsed specific candidates across the country. This type of reasoning does not reflect anything more that a deep seated dislike of either women in general or Mrs. Palin in particular, IMO. In any case, again, this does not square with the results we saw across the country in numerous races, and actually seems to parrot DNC/Liberal talking points, not to mention RINO Elitists.

My criticisms of Palin do not mean I do not like the woman.

I do not believe you are sincere with that statement, and I in fact do not believe you are being honest with us our yourself.

I just know that she CANNOT win the general election. Period.

Arrogance to the nth degree. Why even bother having a primary, I suppose we may as well just consult you and have you declare the Republican nominee. Thank you for saving us all the time and effort by providing your divine guidance.

Every political analyst in this country says the same.

Interesting, I do believe that is either a blatant and outright falsehood on your part, or blinding ignorance as I've seen opinions to the contrary of your belief posted here on this forum in just the last 2 weeks if I'm not mistaken.

I do fear that her ego may cause her to run third party. That will hurt our chances in 2012 and will hurt senate candidates all across the country.

This is again absurd in the extreme. I would not put a 3rd party run out of the picture, but I would not consider it a run created out of "her ego", and to believe such seems to me to denote a predefined belief and attitude towards Mrs. Palin that reflects the thoughts someone who is likely a CINO and would not hesitate to vote for Romney or any other RINO simply to "win".

From my point of view, if the Republican party cannot nominate a solid conservative in 2012, such as Mrs. Palin, then they are no longer a viable alternative to the left/dems/marxists, and it will be time to put up a new party that represents conservatives in this country. The Republican party will render itself obsolete if they continue to be the "dem-lite" party, and starting a conservative party now is exactly what is called for, regardless of the outcome of the 2012 elections. You have to start somewhere, and this will be as good a time as any.

RINO's are not an option, and neither is the status quo.

My fear is we will end up having another RINO selected as the Republican nominee which will then necessitate several election cycles of democrat party dominance while the new conservative party displaces and eventually replaces the useless Republican party.

I'll ask you this. If Romney ends up being the Republican nominee, will you vote for him, vote for Obama, write in another candidate, or refuse to vote?
221 posted on 12/31/2010 6:26:02 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: RichInOC

I mean, really, it would have been perfectly reasonable for people to look at the competition Sarah Palin faced in the governor’s race in 2006, the incumbent in the primary, and then his immediate predecessor in the general, and say she had no chance of winning. Perfectly reasonable...and as it turned out once they ran the campaigns, completely wrong.


222 posted on 12/31/2010 6:26:58 PM PST by RichInOC (Palin 2012: BOOM. Taste My Cluebat!)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
Questioning Palin has become something of a capital crime around here. Seeing that kind of cult of personality on FR is a bit unsettling.

I don't know what to tell you, friend, except that you're misreading it.

Hang in there, and try not to let all of the happy fireworks bother you.

223 posted on 12/31/2010 6:28:57 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: cubreporter

You’re wrong.

BTW, who’s Herman Cain? Wasn’t he a columnist for the SF Chronicle?


224 posted on 12/31/2010 6:32:20 PM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: PhiloBedo

Oh, come on. You remember Cain. Murdered his brother then got deported. It’s been a few years, though.


225 posted on 12/31/2010 6:39:01 PM PST by Rashputin (Barry is totally insane and being kept medicated and on golf courses to hide the fact)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
CK has never poo=poohed Tea parties..He supports them.

I just took a quick scan of mentions he's made about the Tea Parties, and I'll admit that I didn't see a straight-up negative appraisal by him.

That said, Krauthammer has revealed himself to be an elitist RINOcrat in many of his other postings, including this one.

226 posted on 12/31/2010 6:40:36 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

“Any conservative who’s even passingly familiar with her record of public service, her positions on the issues, her writings and speeches, and her admirable personal qualities, can’t possibly still question her electability.”

You actually think that no one who knows her background could possibly question her electability (if by “electability” you mean “likelihood of being elected”)? Your infatuation is making you delusional. Hopefully the bulk of her supporters have a better grasp of the real world; otherwise there will be no cohesive strategy to combat her negatives and instead the assumption that she’ll be elected simply on the basis of her undeniable wonderfulness.


227 posted on 12/31/2010 6:44:44 PM PST by Magic Fingers
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To: Windflier

“Yeah. What’s up with all of those “free thinkers” debating the pros and cons of the potential candidates ahead of the primary anyway? The nerve...”

Yeah, the nerve of you telling those people that they’re “pushing the enemy line”.


228 posted on 12/31/2010 6:46:04 PM PST by Magic Fingers
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To: Windflier

“It would be weak of you to be “turned off” Palin by anything I (or anyone else) says.”

Cults are dangerous regardless of whom they deify.


229 posted on 12/31/2010 6:49:20 PM PST by Magic Fingers
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To: Magic Fingers

Were supporters of Ronald Reagan, a “cult”?


230 posted on 12/31/2010 6:51:06 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (McCarthy Was Right)
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To: bwc2221

Sean Hannity is the Weekly Reader version of Rush Limbaugh, without 97% of the intellect.


231 posted on 12/31/2010 6:56:08 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("You don't have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body." CS Lewis)
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To: Mamzelle

Sadly, I think the Kraut is right. Sarah P. Needs more gravitas before she can be president. Maybe she needs to be in the Cabinate or Senate first. She must Prove herself—She can and will but—maybe not 2012—maybe 2016 (if Its Obama/Hillary).


232 posted on 12/31/2010 6:59:34 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

“gravitas”?

Are you kidding me?

How more beltway, can one be?


233 posted on 12/31/2010 7:00:29 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (McCarthy Was Right)
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To: Magic Fingers
You're making the mistake of confusing enthusiasm with infatuation, IMO. Whether intentional or not remains to be seen.

A lot of the fervor against those who rudely or ignorantly (compared to those who have spent countless hours debating the subject here at FR) post negative comments concerning Mrs. Palin is due to the fact that those who are staunch defenders are becoming exasperated at having to continually and repeatedly explain to those who make those comments why it is believed their statement is in error.

Add to that those who continually post negative articles concerning Mrs. Palin in an effort to make her an undesirable nominee to those here at FR, by the same subset of freepers with an agenda, and you start to understand why you see such a spirited defense of a woman whose values reflect those of a very large portion of posters here at FR.

234 posted on 12/31/2010 7:01:08 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Magic Fingers
You actually think that no one who knows her background could possibly question her electability

Well, it's pretty obvious that you don't know much about her background. Try reading up on her race for Alaska Governor, to get an early indication of how she'll fare as a candidate for president. She beat TWO entrenched political machines to get to the Governor's office.

Your infatuation is making you delusional.

It's not "infatuation", it's honest appreciation for demonstrated competence, executive experience, and real accomplishments.

"Delusional"? That's what happens when people supplant real life observation and information for preconceived notions and narrow-minded bias, based on little more than mainstream media's negative depictions of a candidate.

Hopefully the bulk of her supporters have a better grasp of the real world; otherwise there will be no cohesive strategy to combat her negatives...

Well, she did miss that caribou four times with that rifle with the bad sight....

Negatives? What would those be, pray tell?

235 posted on 12/31/2010 7:01:53 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Pox

Simply put - many are starting to learn, that both the left and the RINOs, use the tactics of Saul Alinsky.


236 posted on 12/31/2010 7:02:55 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (McCarthy Was Right)
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To: Trolleyman; onyx; darkwing104; Old Sarge; Josh Painter; Lakeshark

So you signed up yesterday to let us know that Governor Sarah Palin can’t be elected president and call the people who want proof of Mr. Obama’s natural born citizenship (”birthers”) crackpots?


237 posted on 12/31/2010 7:03:44 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("You don't have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body." CS Lewis)
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To: Dr. Sivana
Mitch Daniels sounds like an alcoholic drink to me...

I will be working and supporting SARAH PALIN. i like Charles Krauth...but he is not listening to us ordinary Americans who who have become known as the TEA PARTY...

wake up Charles, there are many of us out here!!!!!

238 posted on 12/31/2010 7:04:02 PM PST by haircutter
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To: Magic Fingers
Cults are dangerous regardless of whom they deify.

You're sounding more and more like a "concern" troll, or a stealth supporter for some other candidate. Folks who throw out the "cult" smear almost uniformly turn out to be working the board for some second tier, or retread candidate.

Who's yours?

239 posted on 12/31/2010 7:06:03 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“Were supporters of Ronald Reagan, a “cult”?”

No, his supporters (including me) are not. I never heard any of them proclaiming the inevitability of his election, denying that he had any vulnerabilities, or swooning like children over him. The same can’t be said of Sarah’s sycophantic idolizers. As I have said, I’ll vote for her if she’s the nominee and I think she has the potential to do good things. However, her election is anything but assured, she does have signficant vulnerabilities, and she doesn’t walk on water. Jeez people, get a grip!


240 posted on 12/31/2010 7:08:37 PM PST by Magic Fingers
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