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At least she plays one on TV (Comparing Rep. Bachmann and Gov. Palin's records)
Renew America ^ | July 11, 2011 | Helen Valois

Posted on 07/11/2011 1:42:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

As a conservative activist in an area of the country largely believed to be a remote suburb of the Twin Cities, I am increasingly encountering a general assumption — at family gatherings, on the air, and in casual conversation — that I am a big supporter of Michelle Bachmann. I fully realize, of course, that I am supposed to be. I'm just not.

The problem with Tea Party-type Bachmann supporters is that they haven't been paying attention. You'll hear it said that, "At least, she's better than Barack Obama." So was John McCain. You'll hear it said that, "At least, she doesn't have all the negatives of a Palin candidacy." That's because she doesn't have Sarah's record, or her guts, either. If she did, Bachmann would never have been proffered an apology for merely being called a "flake." The former governor of Alaska is a conservative. Her would-be political clone only plays one on TV.

Now, don't get me wrong. I am not saying that Bachmann is insincere. Her voting history and her life story all indicate that she is. What I am saying is that, if you listen to her words and not the hype, you will easily perceive that Michelle's stock in trade is playing both sides of the Republican divide. Allow me to explain.

In scams, you have the role called, "cooling out the mark." It's kind of like the "good cop — bad cop" thing, where one person's job is to make sure that the person being scammed doesn't realize it, or at least doesn't try to do anything about it. This, by default or on purpose, has become the Bachmann role on the national Republican scene.

Whenever the GOP leadership decides to stab its base in the back, to let us down, to put political expediency above principle — and one could set one's clock by this phenomenon — it is Bachman who goes all over the airwaves making excuses for them. Listen for it. It will always be Michelle who is there to "cool out the" — well, "remark." I remember Bachmann being at the forefront, for example, of the "Repeal and Replace" groundswell that helped drive the huge Republican victories of last November. Now that that uproar has died down, her silence is as deafening as anybody else's.

On Hannity a while ago, Bachmann was touting herself as a "unifying" figure. There are Democrats and independents who approach her to express their support, she contended. The obvious question arises: Why? Why, at this extremely early stage in the game, would that be the case? Are they schizophrenic, or do they also perceive that she is not who she claims to be?

The only unity it is possible to achieve is the unity of a return to our national identity, based as it is on the Declaration and the Constitution, with their ineluctable recognition of the sovereignty of our Creator, God. The quixotic attempt to bridge the gap of the American political divide in any other way has already been attempted. Just ask Newt. The famous definition of stupidity as doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting a different result, applies to conservatives as well as liberals.

As the primary season unfolds, I have diligently been trying to give Bachmann the benefit of the doubt, but in order to do that, there has to be some doubt there to work with. And as I say, I understand why people tend to assume that I back the bright, family-friendly, Palinesque-but-not-actually-Sarah-herself conservative activist from my own geographical region, who is ever ready to carry the Tea Party banner as far forward as serves her own political purposes.

I know I am supposed to like Michelle Bachmann.

I just don't.


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1 posted on 07/11/2011 1:42:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Lets see one has been reelected several times, the other one quiet. One is running the other one is not. Cannot compare actual reelected success to one that does not have that experience.
2 posted on 07/11/2011 1:50:47 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Doesn’t change my mind. I like her. And I like her better than Sarah, as a leader. I think she has been much more solid on conservative financial issues than Palin.

But....I would like to know why Savage no longer likes her. He was really touting her a few months ago. Now, he seems to be upset with Bachmann.


3 posted on 07/11/2011 1:50:51 PM PDT by tuckrdout ( A fool vents all his feelings, but a wise man holds them back. Prov.29:11)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t dislike Bachmann. I just like Palin better.


4 posted on 07/11/2011 1:52:07 PM PDT by eCSMaster (We will fight for America and it starts here in Madison, WI. It starts here. It starts now.)
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To: tuckrdout

As a leader, what has she accomplished?


5 posted on 07/11/2011 1:53:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Gov. Sarah Palin. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Here's my only comment, which should be sufficient..."she doesn't have Sarah's record"

She talks the talk, but Sarah's the ONLY ONE who's actually walked the walk! - I ask anyone else, to name what other candidate has taken on the 'Republican Establishment' (corrupt or not) and WON!

6 posted on 07/11/2011 1:54:09 PM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have no idea what he is talking about, and I am a relatively newly minted fan of Palin and I am not looking to Bachmann to replace her anytime in the near future.

I have problems with Bachmann, especially since she seems to be doing some stuff for political expediency, but I still have a favorable opinion of her. I am bound to have a problem with everyone sooner or later, so unless I want to run, I’ll have to live with it.


7 posted on 07/11/2011 1:55:05 PM PDT by RecoveringPaulisto
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I remember Bachmann being at the forefront, for example, of the "Repeal and Replace" groundswell that helped drive the huge Republican victories of last November. Now that that uproar has died down, her silence is as deafening as anybody else's.

Not true. Who is it that found $105 billion hidden in the "bill we had to pass so we can find out what's in it" to implement ObamaCare? Who is it that says at every opportunity that this is one of the first cuts we should make? Other than Jim DeMint and Michele Bachmann, I don't hear anyone else in the GOP even bringing this up, much less repeating it.

The House has the votes to defund the implementation of ObamaCare, queering the military and a ton of other odious crap. Who, other than a handful of strong conservatives including Michele Bachmann has the guts to even talk about it?

8 posted on 07/11/2011 1:56:18 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Basically, Bachmann "talks" very well the strategy that Sarah has actually "walked" the actual implementation of over the past 20 years.

It is one thing to speak eruditely of all these great principles, and quite another to live them day in and day out, when an entire State's (or Country's) well-being hangs in the balance of the results of your decisions and actions... of your leadership.

Palin is tested and proven. Bachmann is not.

;^\

9 posted on 07/11/2011 1:57:32 PM PDT by Gargantua ("Palin 2012 ~ Going Oval")
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To: tuckrdout; 2ndDivisionVet

>>> And I like her better than Sarah, as a leader.

Needs more elaboration, with supportive links/materials preferably.


10 posted on 07/11/2011 1:59:51 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"As a leader, what has she accomplished?"

I'm still waiting to hear anyone who can itemize this.

People LOVE to listen to 'speeches' and 'hear people say stuff', but don't pay attention to track record. See, that takes a little bit of effort, and 'too much thinking'. I hate to criticize my own side of the fence, but MB's record is nothing but 'activism' and 'talk' - hasn't "managed' anything, or actually "lead by executive experience".

11 posted on 07/11/2011 1:59:51 PM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m afraid I agree.

Something creeps me out a bit by Bachman and I can’t quite put my finger on it.


12 posted on 07/11/2011 2:00:22 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The former governor of Alaska is a conservative. Her would-be political clone only plays one on TV.

One actually plays a TV commentator and walked off her job.

The other is still in there fighting for conservatism.

Hmmmmmm.....

Looks likes BDS is striking.

13 posted on 07/11/2011 2:01:03 PM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nice read


14 posted on 07/11/2011 2:02:24 PM PDT by erod (Unlike the President I am a true Chicagoan.)
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To: org.whodat

You do know that Gov. Palin was elected and re-elected to city council and mayor? That she was the energy chairwoman for her state? That she won statewide office, which is something Rep. Michele Bachmann has never done. Yet we’re supposed to believe she can win more states than Mr. Obama?


15 posted on 07/11/2011 2:02:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Gov. Sarah Palin. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What a steaming pile of useless drivel !


16 posted on 07/11/2011 2:04:43 PM PDT by Dawebman (AMEN AMEN AMEN!)
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To: Gargantua
-"Palin is tested and proven. Bachmann is not."

Here's a spot-on post in FR about this whole MB campaign, and frankly, I have to agree with most of it, and have no doubt that Sarah feels just like Ronald Reagan felt back in 1979.

17 posted on 07/11/2011 2:06:49 PM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Bachmann's the cheerleader on the sidelines. Palin's the star quarterback with several victories under her belt.

;^\

18 posted on 07/11/2011 2:07:50 PM PDT by Gargantua ("Palin 2012 ~ Going Oval")
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To: traderrob6

Something creeps me out a bit by Bachman and I can’t quite put my finger on it.


Her singing?
http://www.youtube.com/v/-Psfn6iOfS8&hl=en&fs=1&;


19 posted on 07/11/2011 2:10:26 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: raybbr

Were you here when we went over her reasons for resigning? We only discussed it several thousand times, so maybe you missed it.


20 posted on 07/11/2011 2:10:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Gov. Sarah Palin. What'll you do?)
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To: raybbr

“Looks likes BDS is striking.”

Good grief, nobody is trashing her here, rather they’re showing some legitimate concerns.

It’s hardly “deranged” to show some reasoned anxiety about her and her limited experience.


21 posted on 07/11/2011 2:11:54 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
LOL, LOL, of the welfare state of Alaska, where the majority of state revenue funds are from you the tax payers of the lower forty eight.
22 posted on 07/11/2011 2:15:16 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

who the hell is this self-inflated who seems to think the world turns on her opinion ...


23 posted on 07/11/2011 2:17:44 PM PDT by webschooner (Government is a disease masquerading as its own cure - Robert LeFevre)
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To: org.whodat

So it doesn’t come from the oil and gas taxes?


24 posted on 07/11/2011 2:19:15 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Gov. Sarah Palin. What'll you do?)
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To: webschooner

Helen M. Valois is a homemaker and mom currently residing in the northwoods of Wisconsin. She is a member of the MI (Militia Immaculatae) movement founded by St. Maximilian Kolbe. In 1996, she received a Master’s Degree in Theology from Franciscan University of Steubenville. Helen’s articles and book reviews have appeared in a number of publications since that time.


25 posted on 07/11/2011 2:26:09 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Gov. Sarah Palin. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Were you here when we went over her reasons for resigning? We only discussed it several thousand times, so maybe you missed it.

I've read all the excuses. To me she walked off the job at one of the most critical times. She could have stayed and fought and in the end it would have shown her to be strong and solid. It would have given her a chance to show just how deranged the left was/is. It would have shown light on the tactics of the left and revealed their nature.

She would have been able to say, "Look at how much the leftist tactics have cost Alaska in time, money and reputation. I have weathered the storm and am stronger for it. The left has shown themselves, to the nation, to be petulant children instead of leaders."

But, instead, she walked away.

26 posted on 07/11/2011 2:26:26 PM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
John McCain was foisted on us by the wishy washy moderates and the stealth cross-over leftist voters during the 2008 primary campaign.

George W. Bush came across as a "decent" conservative but his record turned out to be that of a big spending Republican as well as supporting the New World Order. Remember the Farm Bill and the massive prescription drug entitlement? The "hysteria" against "W" was very distracting but we really should have held him accountable for straying from true conservative principles.

His "invasion" of Iraq was pretty impressive. It was necessary to remove Saddam from power. But the "occupation" was poorly planned and the "pacification" effort was botched. It would have been advantageous to retain the members of the Iraq military on modest salary and make them responsible for keeping the Islamist under control and clearing out IEDs, etc.

Is Bachmann another George Bush? We need to investigate her background and not just listen to her stump speech. I read today that she used to write tax code? Is that a negative or a positive? Did she support any kind of social engineering in the tax code? We need to ask questions NOW! Do not stand by passively and wait to see what develops. We need to fight for the hearts and minds of the American people.

27 posted on 07/11/2011 2:27:01 PM PDT by TrueConstitutionalPrinciples (speak out against the corruption of humanists and hedonists)
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To: eCSMaster

Amen brother!


28 posted on 07/11/2011 2:27:18 PM PDT by Heavyrunner (Socialize this.)
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To: traderrob6
Good grief, nobody is trashing her here, rather they’re showing some legitimate concerns.

No, you're right: "Her would-be political clone only plays one on TV." is a totally innocuous statement.

29 posted on 07/11/2011 2:28:22 PM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Poor Mike Pence. He should have ran.


30 posted on 07/11/2011 2:32:23 PM PDT by Sybeck1 (BE BOLD SARAH)
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To: org.whodat
"...Alaska...where the majority of state revenue funds are from you the tax payers of the lower forty eight."

You do realize that when you lie, you are simply admitting that your side of the debate has no facts upon which to stand?

I'm really not surprised that you haven't tired of this need to spew festered brain-snot every time a thread comes up that refers to Madam "President-in-Waiting" Palin. Such vitriolic fixations are a frequent symptom of progressive dementia.

Just for giggles, how long do the doctors say you have left, anyway? Think you'll make it to Sarah's Inauguration? I do hope so...

8^D

31 posted on 07/11/2011 2:35:22 PM PDT by Gargantua ("Palin 2012 ~ Going Oval")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; LucyT
As a leader, what has she accomplished?

You have said that a number of times and I want to call you on it. A simple answer is go see the film, "The Undefeated". Try reading her 20,000 emails during the period she held office.

Sarah was probably the single most effective influential capable Governor during the period she held office. The whine about her premature departure is just that--she and the Conservative cause is far better off than if she had stayed to spend her time broke responding to meritless claims and complaints.

She is the Republican that draws the crowds; and the interest. If she runs for President, she will win every primary. She is a historic politcal leader.

32 posted on 07/11/2011 2:35:44 PM PDT by David (...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And you do realize that MB’s District has more voters in it than the entire voting population of Alaska, right? The statewide comparison you try to claim is illogical based on the following results:

2006 Alaska Race

Palin - 114,697
Knowles - 97,238

2010 MN CD 6 Race

Bachmann - 159,476
Clark - 120,846

So more people have voted for MB than SP.


33 posted on 07/11/2011 2:38:51 PM PDT by parksstp (Articulate Conservatives look for Converts. RINO's look for Democrat Heretics.)
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To: Sybeck1
Mike Pence is doing the right thing, he's getting executive experience if he wins the governorship.

He knows congresscrittes don't win their party's nomination, so he's upping his profile by trying to become a good conservative governor. If he succeeds, he'll be a great candidate in the future.

Bachmann on the other hand, does not have a clue about what she is doing in actually running for president (Pence had a far greater resume than she does), but rather seems to be attempting to raise her fund raising profile and to eventually leverage a possible cabinet job, or other job in someone else's administration.

I like her as a congresscritter, but her fake run for president has turned me sour on her.

34 posted on 07/11/2011 2:39:33 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: David

David:

I was talking about Congresswoman Bachmann. Read my tag line.


35 posted on 07/11/2011 2:39:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Gov. Sarah Palin. What'll you do?)
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To: raybbr
One comment does not make a concensus brother.

I'm getting sick and tired of you thin skinned “worshipers” name calling folks with legitimate points.

Just because somebody doesn't see things as you do does not make them deranged, ignorant, stupid, RINO, fascist or a commie. Get a grip.

36 posted on 07/11/2011 2:39:55 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: raybbr
Instead, she can now say, "Look at how much raybbr's tactics have cost him in credibility, integrity and reputation. I have weathered his whining, and similar whining from all Obamabots, and am completely unaffected by it. Raybbr has shown himself to FReeper nation, to be a petulant child instead of a conservative adult."

;^\

37 posted on 07/11/2011 2:40:32 PM PDT by Gargantua ("Palin 2012 ~ Going Oval")
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To: David; 2ndDivisionVet
I think 2d vet was speaking about Bachmann not having any accomplishments or achievements in her resume.
38 posted on 07/11/2011 2:41:24 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: All

There’s no question that I’ll vote for Mrs. Bachmann, if it came down to choosing between her and Mr. Obama. However, I am still waiting to hear the elite intelligentsia, like Sauer-Krauthammer, Rove, etc., take her (MB) on as “unschooled” and suggest that she is unfit for the office much less running in the primaries. Until they do (and if they already have, I am sorry that I have missed it); I’d have a lingering suspicion about Mrs. Bachmann and her connections to the snobs and RINOS in DC.


39 posted on 07/11/2011 2:41:35 PM PDT by rpage3
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To: All

There’s no question that I’ll vote for Mrs. Bachmann, if it came down to choosing between her and Mr. Obama. However, I am still waiting to hear the elite intelligentsia, like Sauer-Krauthammer, Rove, etc., take her (MB) on as “unschooled” and suggest that she is unfit for the office much less running in the primaries. Until they do (and if they already have, I am sorry that I have missed it); I’d have a lingering suspicion about Mrs. Bachmann and her connections to the snobs and RINOS in DC.


40 posted on 07/11/2011 2:42:10 PM PDT by rpage3
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41 posted on 07/11/2011 2:45:42 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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To: traderrob6

[Something creeps me out a bit by Bachman and I can’t quite put my finger on it.]

Bachmann gives me the same feeling as Sharron Angle. Both great ladies, I supported Angle to the death here in Nevada, but they don’t always catch the nuances. I really don’t see Palin making political mistakes (not that you can’t criticize some decisions, but they are generally pragmatic errors rather than due to a tin ear).


42 posted on 07/11/2011 2:57:56 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (HARRY: Money Mob & Influence (See my Expose on Reid on amazon.com written by me!))
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To: tuckrdout
"I think she has been much more solid on conservative financial issues than Palin."


This is my big issue. In my mind there is not even a question when it comes to who is more conservative. Palin's record is not one of a consistent conservative. Conservatives rally to her because the left has unfairly attacked her; When she was first chosen by McCain, that was my instinct as well. She was getting attacked unfairly and I really wanted to bend over backwards to give her the benefit of the doubt. I knew about her support for LOST, the Bridge to Nowhere, the Bush TARP plan, etc., but wanted her to come around and be a champion of the conservative cause. She was charismatic and I thought she might be able to fill that role. My doubts started when she gave that ridiculous line about quitting because she did not want to go the typical politician’s route of hanging unto office as a lame duck. The Governor’s office in Alaska is term limited after two consecutive terms. Being half way through her first term would not put her in the situation of being a lame duck. This was a pure B.S. excuse that raised a red flag with me. I still wanted to give her the benefit of the doubt but became more discouraged when she seemed to be more interested in seeking celebrity than schooling herself on the issues. I have yet to hear her repudiate support for LOST, Cap and Trade, the Bridge to Nowhere, the Bush TARP Plan, etc. I finally came to the conclusion that she was essentially a McCain style populist who was playing the role of a conservative in time to catch a Tea Party wave.

I also went back and viewed a lot of her old media interview clips from the 2008 campaign with a new found objectivity and had to admit that a lot of the damage was self inflicted. She gave new meaning to the term “deer in the headlights”. Some of these clips were absolutely painful to watch. One was used practically verbatim as a script for a SNL parody. I could reach no other conclusion then that she is an absolute disaster when forced to articulate a position off script. Her much praised ability of going around the media is a case of making a virtue out of necessity. She is scared to death of the prospect of going through again what she did in 2008 when she was thrown unprepared to the wolves. Instead of preparing herself, she has created her own media megaphone. It may draw attention to her and help bring in the cash but it will not get her elected. She is better off playing the role of a conservative Oprah Winfrey, but should not be looked to as a serious spokesman for conservatism.


43 posted on 07/11/2011 3:08:53 PM PDT by rob777
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
He expressed my own opinion of Rep. Bachmann and her candidacy in a far clearer way than I've been able to manage. Part of it is my preference for a candidate (and a president) who has an actual history of managing something. Then I remind myself that the second worst president in my lifetime was Governor of Georgia before taking on that other high office.

A second preference is nominating someone who can win. This is an existential question as I do not believe my country can survive two terms under Obama. Winning in 2012 (for the Republican candidate) will require surviving what will certainly be the most concentrated assault on truth and reason since Hitler and Goebbels convinced the German people that Poland had attacked them. Can Bachmann handle that with complete grace under fire and ability to wrong foot the opponent and the press? Neither she nor any of the announced candidates have shown me they have the steel spines and fast reflexes required.

Finally, there's just an unidentifiable something that I don't like about her. Part of that may stem from the kid gloves treatment she is now receiving from a press corps we all know is just waiting for a signal to reverse all that and tear her limb from limb. I hate it when anyone tries to set me up, and especially when they are so stupidly obvious in the attempt.

To anyone who's a big fan of the lady I would say I wished I liked her, but I don't. If she gains the nomination I will vote for her. But I think she would actually make a far weaker candidate against Obama than Gov. Palin.

44 posted on 07/11/2011 3:16:05 PM PDT by katana
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To: TrueConstitutionalPrinciples
John McCain was foisted on us by the wishy washy moderates and the stealth cross-over leftist voters during the 2008 primary campaign.

McCain, Romney and Huckster. That's who we had in 2008 by Feb 5, "Super Tuesday." You didn't need cross-overs or moderates.

45 posted on 07/11/2011 3:25:56 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Bachmann's not for me. Waiting for the 'peas' to run, Perry/Palin.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Well, on the first day of the new Republican majority, Bachmann introduced legislation to repeal the Dodd-Frank legislation, the so-called reform of Wall Street.

She has certainly been a leader in calling for and writing a bill to repeal Obamacare. She formed the Tea Party Caucus. She has been a leader in writing bills and advocating responsible spending by the federal government. She has been a leader in the cause of life, and in the cause of limiting federal power over the individual. She has sponsored 38 bills in her time in federal office all to that effect. She cosponsored over 500 bills that others have written, also championing limited government.

Check her record HERE and do a search of the leadership she has provided.

She doesn't just talk, she acted. After high school, she went to Israel and spent the summer as a volunteer at Kibbutz Be'eri, working. This is valuable experience and knowledge. She has since visited Israel several times.--she is a friend of Israel.

She then went to college and stuck with her education gaining a BA degree and moving on to graduate school, where she obtained her JD. She also stuck it out and worked through by continuing with her education, until she earned a Masters degree in tax law; while getting married and raising 5 children.

She worked 5 years as a lawyer for the IRS. She knows government finance and tax laws, and what is wrong with them, from the government side, to the private side as a business owner. Her family also owns part of a farm.

She worked on two Presidential campaigns.

She founded a charter school.

She ran a treatment home for troubled teenage girls.

She and her husband own a mental health clinic, where they have 50 employees. She knows all about meeting a payroll.

She ran for State Senate and won that seat and finished her 6 years there. She ran two election campaigns for US representative, and won both--first woman from her state to do so. Finishing one term, she ran for another. She has showed up for 95% of the votes in the house.

She is knowledgable, disciplined, consistant and reliable.

46 posted on 07/11/2011 3:29:23 PM PDT by tuckrdout ( A fool vents all his feelings, but a wise man holds them back. Prov.29:11)
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To: The Bronze Titan

Bachmann actually ran against and beat, 18-year incumbent Gary Laidig for the Republican nomination for State Senator for Minnesota District 56.


47 posted on 07/11/2011 3:39:37 PM PDT by tuckrdout ( A fool vents all his feelings, but a wise man holds them back. Prov.29:11)
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To: eCSMaster

Fair enough!


48 posted on 07/11/2011 3:40:24 PM PDT by tuckrdout ( A fool vents all his feelings, but a wise man holds them back. Prov.29:11)
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To: RecoveringPaulisto

I like your attitude!


49 posted on 07/11/2011 3:41:40 PM PDT by tuckrdout ( A fool vents all his feelings, but a wise man holds them back. Prov.29:11)
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To: Vigilanteman

I have to agree with you.


50 posted on 07/11/2011 3:43:03 PM PDT by tuckrdout ( A fool vents all his feelings, but a wise man holds them back. Prov.29:11)
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