Maybe you didn’t unerstand my pont Yes, The House says what can and can’t be spent. But with that, no matter what they pass, they are NOT in control. Real control will not happen UNTIL WE control both houses and the presidency. THAT was my point. The government could shut now and chaos would reign but at what price? Riots in the streets? An opportunity for obama to order martial law? THEN what?
You seem tto think that the democrats would not absolutely welcome such a scenario. They are already planning for it.
There is evil going on in DC and we have to figure out HOW to stop it.
At this point, I honestly believe in my heart, and I have some pretty good company, that if we do NOT find at least a short term solution to this, a stall tactic to appease a CRAZY and vindictive obama until the next election, we will not HAVE another election.
No real solution is possible unless we win in 2012. But we have to get there. The damage the dems could do with the help of the thug unions and obama’s black constituency between now and then is too terrible to contemplate. And don’t think for one second that he would not rile them up because he would and it would be bloody. He doesn’t care what happens to this country. He doesn’t care about them, or you, or me.
These are not normal times. We have a full blown enemy in the White House.
Obama, under a suddenly balanced budget, will have some extremely hard choices to make. Given his track record, I think he will fail badly. He will be faced with the choice of funding the likes of ACORN, Planned Parenthood, & bogus green energy projects vs sending SS checks to seniors & unemployment checks to the jobless.
At current spending rates & debt ceiling increases - they are sure to rise - Boehner’s plan would cut $1T+ while the total debt increases $20T to $35T in 10 years. It wont take 10 years though as we will be in REAL, unavoidable default before then. I figure we wont get thru Obama’s second term w/o default. This is when martial law will be declared.
What I want to see is real, substantial, spending cuts that occur before any increase in the debt ceiling. I have ZERO respect for 10 year cuts, which are easily ignored in future budgets. I have ZERO respect for a Balanced Budget Amendment at this point. It is a fairytale to believe it would pass & be ratified in time to save this country.
Obamacare could easily be repealed & vastly improve the budget outlook, AND be welcome relief to employers & the job market. The less than useless Dept. of Education could be closed.
Finally, I ask: Why do you think Rats are so opposed to ANY spending cuts at all? Why are they determined to raise the debt ceiling w/o ANY cuts or limits?
My answer: Rats & RINOs desperately need this money to finance their (Obama’s) reelection & to maintain their hold on power. Any gutting of the Federal gov’t will fall overwhelmingly on Obama’s rank & file support. For gov’t workers, unions, contractors, & partisan NGOs, the money will stop flowing. This means that far less money will flow back into Obama’s & the Rat's campaigns & the leaches will have little incentive to support Obama. Without that money they cannot buy the election.
I see a lot of Freepers assume the Pubs will make substantial gains in the Senate & House in 2012. But if Obama & Co. buy the election, it is likely the Rats will retain the Senate & may make gains in the House. That puts us in exactly the same position in Jan. 2013 as now, only $2.7T deeper in debt, & has no pending election to limit his insanity.