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Four Reasons Why Sarah Palin Will Win
Mark America.com ^ | 20 August 2011 | Mark America

Posted on 08/20/2011 11:45:34 PM PDT by Windflier

I’ve been approached several times today by doubters who advance arguments as to why Sarah Palin cannot win the nomination, or if she secures it, why she can’t defeat Barack Obama.

All of the theories I’ve had pitched in my direction today share a couple common faults, and it’s important to point them out here. The most common reason I’ve heard today is the belief that the Media will destroy her. That’s silly. Is there a single Republican, never mind conservative, who the media will not seek to destroy to defend their darling, Barack Obama?

Anybody who watched the media in action after McCain’s nomination in 2008 should by now be thoroughly disabused of that shoddy notion. The Lame-Stream Media has been trying for three years running to destroy Sarah Palin, and there is no chance, having failed thus far, that they will improve results on their limited success.

The problem is that if the media narrative about a person is based on lies, in the longer run, those lies lose effectiveness as people learn the truth from other sources, and worse yet, the lies come back to haunt their purveyors because once the audience, having originally believed them, in the second instance realizes they’ve been scammed, they will thereafter no longer be inclined to believe another pronouncement given voice by that source.

The second most common flaw in the arguments I’ve been hearing and reading today is the dubious assumption that she’s an intellectual lightweight. Truthfully, there couldn’t be a more ridiculous claim upon which to base one’s criticisms, and yet this is the default argument of those who wish to suggest that Sarah Palin isn’t qualified.

It’s the constant harangue of the elite media types, and it has been a failure repeatedly. They tried to paint a similar picture of Ronald Reagan, and in fact, every Republican in my memory.

It’s a claim that falls on deaf ears in most quarters, because in the final analysis, it’s simply not believable given all she has already accompished. Having covered what critics have said, let me move on to my own list of reasons in opposition to these notions.

I firmly believe that Sarah Palin will run, win the nomination, and ultimately the Presidency.


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To: Gargantua; Darkwolf377
It is one thing to assert that a fellow Freeper is wrong on his facts or misguided in his conclusions that is why we are here, to test our conservatism and temper it under criticism until it is true.

It is quite another thing to accuse a fellow Freeper of fraud, that is, posting clandestinely under 2 different names to generate counterfeit praise.

I am asking you to withdraw that charge.


51 posted on 08/21/2011 4:51:53 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: JPG

[ Sarah Palin praised Orrin Hatch for his long time support of a Balanced Budget Amendment. She did NOT endorse Orrin Hatch. ]

She endorsed him for being against the balanced budget amendment..
Didn’t I say that?...

She takes the Reagan concept of unifying seriously..
Of not displaying negatives against other republicans...

But he said that before RINO became a well known symbol...
Back in Reagan political days..

RINOs were needed since any republican was really needed in Congress..
Reagan used to be a democrat himself..

Currently a RINO is a stealth democrat ALL OF THEM...
Actually even then it was so.. in my view..

I thought and still think Now Ronaldus Maximus WAS A RINO...
Better than a democrat then but not NOW...
RINOs NOW are traitors.. stealth traitors.. AND literally every democrat is..

I am not amused by democrats.. and RINOs are boot lickers..
I don’t call a republican a RINO easily.. as some do...

Some RINOs are not really RINOs..
I have no problem with a freeper that RINOAtes another republican.. they could just be pissed off..

Happens to me all the time.. Rinos however are hard to piss off..
Politics to them is just entertainment.. licking boots is not horrendous to them..


52 posted on 08/21/2011 5:09:39 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: political1

I wish a certain President of the United States would QUIT !

Sometimes it takes a brave person to realize when it’s time to retreat for the good of your nation. Sarah saw that the frivolous law suits were destroying her and the state of Alaska.

For Pete’s sake, every politician that runs for office “quits” another position. I’d rather they quit than campaign on the tax payers’ dime, (i.e., Bachman, R. Paul, Perry).

And if McCain had won, would she still be a quitter?


53 posted on 08/21/2011 5:22:06 AM PDT by Reagan69 (First they came for Sarah Palin and conservatives said nothing...)
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To: hosepipe

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, ELVIS!


54 posted on 08/21/2011 5:24:38 AM PDT by Reagan69 (First they came for Sarah Palin and conservatives said nothing...)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
This is essentially the same trick used by Romneybots at Pollutico to sabotage Fred Thompson.

("If he doesn't finish first or second in primary XYZ, he's dropping out...")

Thanks for the warning; I'll pass it on.

BTW, if anyone is ever tempted to trust Rove again on anything whatsoever, read the following which I posted in the aftermath of the November 2010 elections:

Let's look again at the races, and about recent history. We can look at the performances of the Establishment Republicans (say, in recent elections), and drill down a bit on this election.

In past elections, (say 2002, 2004, 2006, 2008) we had the following:

2002 -- a year after the 9-11 attacks, and Americans want security, dammit! The GOP gains 8 seats in the House and 2 in the Senate.

2004 -- Presidential Election; the first one after the "Sore Loserman" debacle in Florida in 2000, and the first one after 9-11.

The GOP picks up 3 seats in the House, the Donks lose 2.

The GOP picks up 4 Senate seats, the Donks lose 4.

Bush wins 31 states, but a mere 286 electoral votes, with a bare 50.7% of the popular vote.

2006 -- the Midterm elections for Bush's second term.

The Dems pick up the House, gaining 31 seats, while the GOP loses 30.

The Dems get the Senate, too, winning 6 seats.

This despite the presence of "The Architect" Karl Rove who brags about his detailed knowledge of the ground game.

But (as we will see) he learned his lesson, after a fashion.

2008 -- the annointing of Teh One.

Obama wins 365 electoral votes in 28 states + a single Congressional district in Nebraska. (Nebraska??!!)

The Donks extend their lead in the House, gaining 21 seats.

And in the Senate, they run the table, gaining 8 seats.

The election is marked by numerous unchallenged shenanigans, including voter fraud (voting by felons, votes found in car trunks) in Minnesota, and infamous re-counts in Washington State.

The only thing preventing a total rout is Sarah Palin, who is roundly condemned by the establishment, but targeted by the Dems, after being trashed by advisors lent by the Rockefeller wing of the GOP (as detailed later in Going Rogue).

So, let's look at the record of the Establishment GOP since the first election of George W. Bush (where the victory was so narrow that the Dems complained he was "selected, not elected." (And that, over Clinton's hand-picked successor.)

House: +8 +3 -30 -21 net --> -40
Senate: +2 +4 -6 -8 net --> -8
Heckuva job, Karl.

Compare that to the Tea Parties:

House: +65
Senate: +6



Cheers!

55 posted on 08/21/2011 5:26:39 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Windflier
Did not the mainstream media shill for every Democrat in the 2010 elections, and have virtually no impact on the outcomes?

The lessons of the 2010 elections have clearly been lost on the liberal side, as they continue to provide the electorate that repudiated them even more reasons to turn out against them in 2012. But should we on the right not heed the sea-change that occurred, relative to the media's ability to persuade? I am not advocating complacency here, but we're about to choose a candidate in arguably the most important election in our young history.

Both the 2010 elections and recent polls show that independents have come our way in droves, despite being the target audience of the media, despite the lies proffered on a daily basis, since the 2010's.

The main-stream media sold us a monumental bill of goods in Barack Obama. This is now recognized fact by most sentient beings on both sides of the divide, and in the politically apathetic middle. Liberal governance has been exposed by events on the ground, despite the shilling by the MSMers, as completely bankrupt. The more they shill in the run-up to the 2012 elections, the more credibility they will lose.

Thus the candidate that the media loves the least may be the candidate that voters will instictively favor, especially the young and apathetic fence-sitters.

We need to pick the most conservative candidate we can find, and put "electability" much, much lower on the priority list of attributes our candidate must possess. The fact that yes, the media will mobilize against our candidate, no matter who he or she happens to be or represent, is a given. We even defeated the media in New Jersey, for Christ sakes. The meme of "electability" is a completely media-created, now objectively refuted myth.

The media sold us Obama. Who has reason to listen to them now?

56 posted on 08/21/2011 5:29:47 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: Reagan69

[ HAPPY BIRTHDAY, ELVIS! ]

Today is my UNbirthday.... ALice...
Never liked Elvis..


57 posted on 08/21/2011 5:31:14 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: grey_whiskers

I believe Perry will take more votes from Romney than he will from Palin.

IF YOU LIKE AMNESTY AND THE DREAM ACT, YOU WILL LOVE-LOVE-LOVE PERRY !


58 posted on 08/21/2011 5:31:41 AM PDT by Reagan69 (First they came for Sarah Palin and conservatives said nothing...)
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To: fortheDeclaration; Windflier
Then tell Perry to drop out.

He's just as much of a RINO as the *last* Texan in the White House.

Only Perry is even stupider: what kind of American government official goes around making speeches where he *quotes* from the Koran?

And more of a big government troll: he tried to force underaged girls to get an unproven vaccination for a cancer triggered by sexually transmitted viruses, with only the fig leaf of an "opt out": which would have required a lot of red tape on the part of parents, and weakened parents' moral authority.

And when the legislature tried to check him on it, like the swaggering Texan he is, he tried to declare that the legislature had no authority in Texas to reverse an executive order. He only backed down when he was broken down to size.

And then lied through his teeth that he had "listened" all along.

And he ran a conservative off from making it to the Texas Supreme Court (probably payback for the guy's opposition to affirmative action).

Perry blows, *he* should drop out.

Cheers!

59 posted on 08/21/2011 5:33:29 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: hosepipe

Where do you live?


60 posted on 08/21/2011 5:35:16 AM PDT by lowtaxsmallgov (This Administration has absolutely no idea how to grow an economy)
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To: Darkwolf377
"Have a nice day."

Indeed I shall! And the same to you and yours.

8^D

61 posted on 08/21/2011 5:38:29 AM PDT by Gargantua ("Palin is announcing on September 3rd in Indianola, Iowa")
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To: nathanbedford; Windflier
Ahhh, but in Sarah's case, nathan, Windflier is right.

Recall that Rove's favorite advice for Dubya was the *opposite* of your tagline: "BOHICA!"

The cretin didn't even fight back against the Valerie Plame lie when it was a top aide (Armitage) who "outed" her, and everyone within the admin knew it.

The *ONLY* possible justification for not standing up for the WMD in Iraq is that either

a) it jeopardized "methods and sources"

or

b) Russia helped move WMDs to Syria and were holding something over Bush's head to keep it quiet.

Sarah has a track record, and quite a good one: read Going Rogue (New York Slimes bestseller) or get The Undefeated when it starts selling at Wal-Mart.

The main problem Sarah is going to have is the resentment from the fat self-loathing man-hating lardass Oprah watchers who viscerally hate her for having a world-class stud as husband *AND* her own career and having kept her looks after five kids, dammit.

Recall that Sarah was both held on a leash by McCain *and* sabotaged by Nicole Wallace and whatshisname, Stephen Schmidt(?), during the last campaign.

And her resourcefulness and pluck is shown by the fact that instead of dying when they had her pinned down with all those Alinskyite "freeze, personallize, polarize" junk lawsuits in Alaska, she escaped the kill zone and went on the hunt.

They can try the "she quit" meme all they want, but I have a sneaking suspicion that she has a devastating riposte up her sleeve for the first autofellating East Coast Manhattanite liberal presstitute who tries a "gotcha" question with it on the campaign trail.

Incidentally : look at the Iowa State Fair and the all-but-campaign-commercial "Iowa Passion". Listen carefully to the soundtrack at 0:52 - 0:53 or so. That was no accident.

I understand you have chosen Perry, and I grieve for your temporary insanity ;-)

IF the choices were merely Bachmann and Perry, I'd understand your wanting Perry since Bachmann *really* has a hill to climb. Her best bet to the White House is likely an overture to Obama, to replace Biden as VP next time: he needs a reach out to the religious right, and Bachmann would be the smoothest path from Biden, since they're both human affe factories.

Full Disclosure: I finally figured out, "Stand up, Chuck!" was either Biden's attempt at faith healing to reach out to the religious voters, OR his attempt to stake his own claim to "this was the moment the planet began to heal" territory of Obama.

Cheers!

62 posted on 08/21/2011 5:48:00 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: nathanbedford
Lighten up, Lubo. I made no such "charge."

You really should learn the difference between "making a charge" and "expressing a frequent suspicion." There is actually quite a massive gulf between the two. However, I could actually not care less if you never disabuse yourself of that dreadfully puffed-up, self-important misimpression. That's your cross to bear.

Get lost.

;^\

63 posted on 08/21/2011 5:56:55 AM PDT by Gargantua ("Palin is announcing on September 3rd in Indianola, Iowa")
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To: lowtaxsmallgov

[ Where do you live? ]

America..


64 posted on 08/21/2011 5:57:25 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: Reagan69
"HAPPY BIRTHDAY, ELVIS!"

LMAO!!!!

Wow... zingggggggg!.

Lovin it.

65 posted on 08/21/2011 5:58:54 AM PDT by Gargantua ("Palin is announcing on September 3rd in Indianola, Iowa")
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To: grey_whiskers

Outstanding summation.


66 posted on 08/21/2011 6:03:26 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: nathanbedford
How about addresssing the point of what I really wrote? Since that humorous prelude has you so badly confused (?!), here it is again, minus the inexplicably offensive jape:

The cynical defeatist drivel offered up by Nate B. in fact deserves but to be ignored by actual thinking Americans, not applauded like some particularly prescient precept.

"I can’t think of a single politician so thoroughly loathed by the MSM, and whose image is so set at this point in the presidential election season. If Palin runs, in order to win she has to overcome a media blockade unlike any other."

Ahem. Ummmm, the Lamestream Misleadia has spent the last three years attempting to knock her off her pins with every imaginable onslaught available, tired to shut her up and convince America that she's already all washed up.

I guess you haven't noticed, but...

...they failed. Badly. Monstrously. Indelibly. Forever. Sarah Palin is better known and better liked today than when they started their assault on her all those years ago. Her Facebook fan base has tripled over the last two years. Her volunteer ground support has organized ready-to-launch teams of "get out the voter" commandos in virtually every State in the Union, basically as a response to the FAILED media attempts to destroy her.

Anyone who at this point thinks they can effectively point to the media's repeatedly ineffective assassinations of Palin as a reason why she cannot win is simply and quite obviously as blind to the truth as they'd like to paint us as being.

In fact... they, like the media, are just whistling past the graveyard. Make no mistake.

Sarah Palin is coming, and the TEA Party is coming with her.

:^\

67 posted on 08/21/2011 6:05:26 AM PDT by Gargantua ("Palin is announcing on September 3rd in Indianola, Iowa")
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To: Yaelle

Well you have said it,The Voters were fooled by Obama and she can use that,People hate to be Made Suckers of. Obama has made a Lot of people suckers.
Sarah Palin needs to be the person she is. When everyone did not Know her, she Knocked them on their Butts with that Convention Speech,there was A reason for that and THAT is what she needs to have to overcome all that has been said about her. She has Charisma and a good Personality,go with that


68 posted on 08/21/2011 6:07:54 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: Darkwolf377
You would do well to heed your own tagline.

Personal recommendations from friends go a LONG way to counteract the bullsh*t in the press.

And of course, mockery. Point out that one of the charges against her was that her *LEGAL DEFENSE FUND* was called "illegal". Even the dimmest bulb begins to figure it out at that point.

Cheers!

69 posted on 08/21/2011 6:10:30 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Gargantua
"Because, quite frankly, the cynical defeatist drivel offered up by Nate B. in fact deserves but to be ignored by actual thinking Americans, not applauded like some particularly prescient precept"

I totally agree, and could not have said it better!

When will we learn? Against my better judgement I held my tongue (and nose) and supported W. During his 1st primaries I nearly got kicked off Free Republic for warning that he was a "One World" Globalist. It was only my sincere respect for Jim Robinson that I shut up and actively supported him(volunteered locally and sent money), because I was convinced that he was our ONLY hope to beat the Democrats.

What a mistake! We know now that we just got "Democrat Lite". Like I said..... when will we learn?

Maybe it's too late to matter. Many of you seem to think that is the case. You are willing to take Perry who is telling us he is a conservative (and a Republican) yet his past record says otherwise. Oh, no doubt he is better that Romney (almost anyone is), but I do not see him as president, championing the conservative ideals of constitutionality and standing up to the other side even though it may (and it would) mean his ratings may go down.

Rather, it is going to take someone who knows that doing the RIGHT thing is more important than ratings. Someone who can boldly without fear, stand up to the "demonic" forces that have brought our nation to its knees.

We have one more chance, dear FRiends. If we don't do it this time around, we may never get another chance. Electing democrat-lite has not worked out for us yet..... I say, if Sara runs and is willing to be our "champion" then we boldly step out and take the chance that she can indeed stand up to them and say enough is enough, we ARE getting the over-spending under control, we ARE protecting and defending our borders from foreign invasion of illegals, we ARE bringing back the rule of law (the constitution).

Unless you see democrat-lite turning this country around (and history has shown us that won't happen), then it is our only hope.

70 posted on 08/21/2011 6:11:06 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie mmm mmm mmm)
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To: nathanbedford

What utter hogwash and dribble! Goldwater while a likable guy personally came across as being mad as he spoke and a scowl on his face — Reagan understood the mistakes that Goldwater made and use natural upbeat sunny optimism message to the people....Sarah in the same way is always optimistic and usually decentralize herself and talk more about America people. You aren’t going to watch a rally of Sarah if you are a regular joe and walk away thinking what a racist evil women even if the media tried to pound that in


71 posted on 08/21/2011 6:11:12 AM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Bigtigermike
Watch the "Iowa Passion" video again.

The legendary Mrs. Whiskers pointed out that Sarah is selling herself as upbeat but determined: and enthusiasm and optimism SELLS. Look at any advertising campaign.

And that last few seconds of the commercial: every other campaign just crapped their pants.

Cheers!

72 posted on 08/21/2011 6:16:22 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: flat

NO. No Perry. Curse your keyboard.


73 posted on 08/21/2011 6:22:41 AM PDT by Tempest (Ruining the day of corporate butt kissers everywhere.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

It won’t dispirit her fans as much as it’ll fuel her detractors.


74 posted on 08/21/2011 6:24:39 AM PDT by Tempest (Ruining the day of corporate butt kissers everywhere.)
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To: Tempest

Excellent point.


75 posted on 08/21/2011 6:25:18 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: SoConPubbie
Troll #1 has checked in parrotting the left-wing press.

But Sarah's not running. Romney has assured us she's not running. The Obama Regime has, as usual, chimed in to agree with Romney. The entire mainstream media continuously assure us that she's not running. If we can't trust the far left anti-American fringe to psychically predict Sarah's plans, can we trust them on anything?

76 posted on 08/21/2011 6:28:41 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: exnavy

It’s a historical reference and a jab at those whom are prone to waiving the white flag.


77 posted on 08/21/2011 6:28:55 AM PDT by Tempest (Ruining the day of corporate butt kissers everywhere.)
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To: Gargantua; Darkwolf377; grey_whiskers
FReeper Announces Breakthrough in Cure for the Ad Hominem Distemper-an Analogue of Tourette's Syndrome

Gargantua, I have pondered a while now the best way to help you with your condition. It is indeed perplexing because the regular nostrums like Ritalin seem to be of no avail. I debated offering personal counseling and I considered that I could recommend some rehabilitation centers where they can, with modern drugs, ease you through withdrawal before you embark on a 12-step program. But these are usually quite expensive and, barring a successful intervention, the patient has a very poor prognosis because he is unwilling to accept the treatment.

All the modern authorities report that the majority of patients once released from rehab inevitably wander back to their keyboards and commit the sin of personal attacks within a matter of hours. Alas, the hard and bitter truth is that the AD HOMINEM DISTEMPER which afflicts you and so many others with access to the Internet, has no known cure, as a recent article in The New England Journal of Medicine under this very title has concluded. The statistical relapse rate has been truly disheartening. That is, until now for I have by the grace of a benign Providence hit upon the solution to your compulsion which no doubt will be published in the next edition of the Journal under the working title, FReeper Announces Breakthrough to Cure the Ad Hominem Distemper-an Analogue of Tourette's Syndrome. I will be pleased to send you a reprint upon request.

It all came to me, Gargantua, as an epiphany when I contemplated your symptoms. The malady is easy to describe: The unfortunate patient, unable to deal with the substance of what he reads and bereft of factual answer for it, resorts to attacks against those whom he regards to be the author of his misery, much like the ancient Pharaohs who cut off the heads of messengers bearing bad news. Our modern Pharoah cannot, of course, physically decapitate anyone in ether-space so he becomes a mighty potentate astride his own keyboard and lashes out to assassinate the character of these cyber devils. After he has pushed the Reply button and sent his screed into cyberspace, he enjoys a rush of adrenaline and a psychotic high which, of course, is inevitably followed by a deeper low from which he cannot emerge until he finds another victim for his calumnies. The disease is progressive and up until now there has been no known cure. But I have found the certain cure and I am willing to give it away, free and without charge, out of Christian concern and solicitude for a fellow conservative. You may consider this to be charity but I am also motivated in the interests of science. Since my motives are altruistic you will observe below the absence of any claim of copyright for my breakthrough, I exact no excise for my good works. I do this not just to save you - but for all humanity, that is, to save all humanity from you.

My prescription, like all brilliant breakthroughs which are obvious only in hindsight for their simplicity and brevity, is analogous to the practice which has developed on the Rush Limbaugh radio program in which the caller, to express a whole series of complementary observations merely has to say: Dittos -and all is perfectly understood by everyone with no trouble or bother or any loss of time.

My antidote for your Ad Hominem Distemper is simplicity itself: Whenever you feel an attack coming on do not resist, for that only leads to the cold sweats, rather, you should embrace it because, after all, acceptance of the disease and your powerlessness over it are the first steps in your recovery. Do not try to avoid your keyboard but eagerly reach out for it. We know that you have nothing to say about the substance of the matter, we know that you've been confused by the reality with which you have been confronted, we know how feverish and insecure you feel as a result, we know how much you feel the need to blackguard someone. Nevertheless, go confidently to your keyboard without any anxiety that you will compulsively vituperate - as though you were some wretched victim of Tourette's syndrome - and take your keyboard stoutly in hand to gallantly type the following:

TOUCHÉ

(recent results of phase lll clinical trials have shown that the better course of therapy is to encourage the patient to write the word in italics and in bold letters because it seems to bolster self-esteem, a pathological deficiency common to all these unfortunates)

Now there, don’t you see how much easier and lighter you feel in your soul? Instead of betraying to the world the poverty of your intellectual estate, you have made a clean breast of your ignorance, which is different from rank stupidity, and it is anyway the first step in your recovery program. More, you will be awarded points because you show the world that you are a bigger man and by no means petty. The therapeutic effects of this balm cannot be overestimated. Phase llB and pivotal phase lll clinical trials have shown that, although my remedy may be sublime, it is not wholly perfect because it brings no cheap and easy rush, no high, but then no crash either, no withdrawal, no need for the next fix. Instead, you can have your life back.

Your friend,

Nathan


78 posted on 08/21/2011 6:31:30 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: fortheDeclaration
Bwhahahahahahaha!!! Ahahahahahahaha! ROFL!

Newsflash. The other half of your group would be anything but conservatives. It's more like she'd separate the wheat from the chaff....

79 posted on 08/21/2011 6:35:45 AM PDT by Tempest (Ruining the day of corporate butt kissers everywhere.)
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To: fortheDeclaration
Bwhahahahahahaha!!! Ahahahahahahaha! ROFL!

Newsflash. The other half of your group would be anything but conservatives. It's more like she'd separate the wheat from the chaff....

80 posted on 08/21/2011 6:36:11 AM PDT by Tempest (Ruining the day of corporate butt kissers everywhere.)
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To: nathanbedford
You still missed the substantive rebuttal (though it is clear why you'd avoid addressing it head on, like a man...), so here it is again. Another chance to drop the fuscia tutu and put your "biggy boy" pants back on:

The cynical defeatist drivel offered up by Nate B. in fact deserves but to be ignored by actual thinking Americans, not applauded like some particularly prescient precept.

"I can’t think of a single politician so thoroughly loathed by the MSM, and whose image is so set at this point in the presidential election season. If Palin runs, in order to win she has to overcome a media blockade unlike any other."

Ahem. Ummmm, the Lamestream Misleadia has spent the last three years attempting to knock her off her pins with every imaginable onslaught available, tired to shut her up and convince America that she's already all washed up.

I guess you haven't noticed, but...

...they failed. Badly. Monstrously. Indelibly. Forever. Sarah Palin is better known and better liked today than when they started their assault on her all those years ago. Her Facebook fan base has tripled over the last two years. Her volunteer ground support has organized ready-to-launch teams of "get out the voter" commandos in virtually every State in the Union, basically as a response to the FAILED media attempts to destroy her.

Anyone who at this point thinks they can effectively point to the media's repeatedly ineffective assassinations of Palin as a reason why she cannot win is simply and quite obviously as blind to the truth as they'd like to paint us as being.

In fact... they, like the media, are just whistling past the graveyard. Make no mistake.

Sarah Palin is coming, and the TEA Party is coming with her.

81 posted on 08/21/2011 6:38:10 AM PDT by Gargantua ("Palin is announcing on September 3rd in Indianola, Iowa")
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To: nathanbedford

I disagree only the fringe dyed in wool left would make such unfounded statements about GWB and actually mean it. The large part of the justifiable remorse towards GWB is due to the end result(s) and what he left behind. Which is primarily two wars with no resolution in sight and stinking TARP bomb.


82 posted on 08/21/2011 6:42:22 AM PDT by Tempest (Ruining the day of corporate butt kissers everywhere.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Exactly! The other campaigns wishes they had her ability and they don’t. Palin has advantages like no other like if she’s standing on the sidewalk people will come to her in droves whether they like her or not and that’s where she can sell herself.


83 posted on 08/21/2011 6:42:30 AM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Bigtigermike
Apples and oranges, Mike. I did not say that Sarah would be painted as a racist by the media or even a bomb thrower. The truth is they have painted her as a ditz and it has hurt her in the polls. Take a look here:

Real Clear Politics

As to how Goldwater appeared in person, I can only tell you that I was there. Were you?


84 posted on 08/21/2011 6:46:24 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: jocon307

Please tell me what the Bachmann gaffes are that were so disconcerting...

But on a more serious note, isn’t the social conditioning instilled against conservative thought amazing? Garbage can come out of the mouths of libs all day and they’re not ridiculed nor shamed over their absurd nonsense because conservatives are often times far too polite to be that rude.

But some on the right have taken upon this ‘group think’ where as they’re concerned over what they say due to fear of some innocuous social rejection?. From who?

Well anyways, I salute the 57 states of America....


85 posted on 08/21/2011 6:52:21 AM PDT by Tempest (Ruining the day of corporate butt kissers everywhere.)
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To: political1
She hasn’t got a chance. She quit in Alaska. “If she thinks that was to tough wait til she becomes president”. That is all they have to say once she officially gets into the race.

Sarah quit because the libs were costing us unnecessary expenses by being sleazy. BOzo ought to quit for costing us unnecessary expenses and for being sleazy.

86 posted on 08/21/2011 6:53:09 AM PDT by jetson
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To: Yaelle

Nope but good things don’t come easy.


87 posted on 08/21/2011 6:55:45 AM PDT by Tempest (Ruining the day of corporate butt kissers everywhere.)
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To: nathanbedford
Nathan --

In all earnestness and good faith.

Put your keen analytical skills to the following question: I haven't been able to come up with even the ghost of an answer.

Why is Sarah Palin the ONLY candidate against whom you have never heard a *whiff* of the Race Card being played?

Something of importance there; wish I could get to the bottom of it.

Cheers!

88 posted on 08/21/2011 6:57:43 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: onyx

bump.


89 posted on 08/21/2011 7:00:16 AM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: Yaelle
I as you know am a big palin supporter. But he’s wrong. The average lib or apolitical American considers her a joke. They learned this on tv. Her name is spoken in a scornful tone. That ain’t nothing. She truly has a very hard road ahead. The media did not destroy Sarah, true. But they did successfully destroy her image in the minds of many americAns.

The work that should not be denied is her strategy to reach those very people. Her advantage : the media perception created of her is absolutely a lie. Americans hate to be fooled. They were fooled by the glory of the Obamacle. Sarah has to o ercome. She can. But let’s not pretend it will be easy.

I agree with what you are saying - it will be a hard hard road to change the minds of those who think she's an idiot, a quitter, a lightweight, or the so-called conservatives who figure there is no way she can win so better to vote for someone else. The media has done a masterful and despicable job of destroying her image, if not her. I know people who say they hate her but they really have no idea of the truth. The problem with the MSM is that it is mainstream when it should be totally discredited

The powerful do not want the people to take our country back because they're not done wiping out our bank and retirement accounts and turning us into obedient serfs.

90 posted on 08/21/2011 7:02:35 AM PDT by Aria ( "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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To: onyx

I hope that whomever ends up being the two frontrunners of the GOP do not trash each other so severely that the nominee can’t recover in time to trounce obama. They’ve got to come to an agreement to concentrate on what will win for the party. While I’m not the biggest fan of the GOP, they sure as heck are better than the dems. At this point I believe Perry will be nominated. If so I would like to see either Palin or Bachmann as his Veep.


91 posted on 08/21/2011 7:04:28 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (Muslims do not immigrate; they colonize.)
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To: Windflier

All this is meaningless if she isn’t running. And at the moment she isn’t, nor has she said anything to indicate otherwise.

If she, however, does decide to run... then this article has merit.


92 posted on 08/21/2011 7:07:33 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy

“I don’t think Sara will split the conservative vote.... I think she will rally it!”.....

The crowds in 2008 will be eclipsed with her at the top of the ticket.....


93 posted on 08/21/2011 7:08:55 AM PDT by 3722535r
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To: onyx

I think her sexy feet might be enough to tip the scales.


94 posted on 08/21/2011 7:09:58 AM PDT by Reznap
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To: nathanbedford

That’s what a campaign is for! You selling yourself and this time she doesn’t have the inept McCain campaign messing things up! Btw in your other post you claim that we can’t afford to deal with Palin issues compared to Bachmann or Perry; Sarah is not a gaffe machine like Bachmann nor does Sarah makes numerous loose statements like Bachmann as well that can be brought up- the media already used every last bullet left against Sarah, even acussing her of murder and she’s still standing, and as afar as Perry, the media will try to make him a W. Bush clone (not saying they are right) but whoever is the nominee is going to face one obstacle or another


95 posted on 08/21/2011 7:10:07 AM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Tempest
Karl Rove himself conducted an interview on CNN (?) Which I saw in which he stated that the biggest mistake of the Bush presidency was the failure to contest the lie, "Bush lied people died."

You are looking at the historical legacy of the Bush presidency and in this respect you might well be right. Bush himself thought that would be so and that is why he instructed Karl Rove not to go to war on the issue because the administration wanted emphasis put elsewhere. Rove thought that the administration never fully recovered from this slander. The elections of 2006 and 2008 seem to bear him out.

The point and relevance to the Sarah Palin candidacy is that it does not matter how history views her, it matters how 50% plus one of the electorate view her on election day. As of today her polls are not robust. ( See Real Clear Politics cited in the previous post of mine in this thread.)

She's had 3 years to correct the impression generated by Katie Couric and Tina Fey and she has not done so. She has not entered the fray to prove that she could do so. In fact, she has withdrawn from the fray and from elected office.

For the record here is my assessment of Sarah Palin made before, repeat before, the 2008 election:

"You know I have spent considerable time in Alaska and much of it in Wasilla. I can well understand how somebody with Sarah Palin's personality and energy could rise to become governor of that state by virtue of her merit. In Alaska, at least in the Wasilla area, everybody knows everybody else and you better be a standup guy. You can be as eccentric as an out- house rat, but you better be a straight shooter and you better not put on no airs.

These down-home virtues are what is needed but not what is prized in Washington. I believe Sarah Palin is up against two psychological forces which she must overcome.

The first is a phenomenon applied to all Republican candidates that I can remember since Eisenhower. I can remember being told quite earnestly that the man who commanded the biggest, most complicated, and most successful amphibious operation in history was really quite stupid. Every succeeding Republican president since Eisenhower (excepting Nixon who was evil) was stupid. This calumny is tried on against every Republican candidate who comes along. We saw what happened to Dan Quayle. Can you recall how stupid Ronald Reagan was? Bedtime for Bozo? George Bush Sr. was out of touch and stupid, although his wife was conceded to be house smart in a grandmotherly sort of way. We all know her son is a moron. Sarah Palin, like Dan Quayle, was left out there exposed, unprepared and unsupported and no one should be surprised that the result was the same. So when Palin drops her gs and says "aw shucks," that is all the Eastern establishment needed to hear to match up the person with the holes in the template.

Of course, President Kennedy was in near genius who sped read at an amazing clip. We found out later that this was a lie and that his Pulitzer prize-winning book was ghostwritten. We now know that he must have been in a thick drug-induced cloud for much of his tenure in the Oval Office. Do you remember being told how intuitive Bill Clinton was and how he could summarize an expert's presentation better than the expert? Al Gore was a genius who was too good for the schools he flunked out of. And Barak Obama, well one can only express astonishment that his coming was not announced by John the Baptist.

And this messianic allusion brings me to the main problem which Sarah Palin confronts in structuring her image. It is the Billy Budd effect. If you recall your Melville, you will know that Billy Budd was a figure of good whose very presence antagonized the first mate who persecuted Billy Budd unmercifully. The mate was driven to do this unconsciously because the mate was a figure of evil. The mate had his demons. So it is with the left in America today, they are driven to a visceral hatred of Sarah Palin because she is the 21st century figure of Billy Budd. Sarah Palin committed an unforgivable affront, she knowingly carried a Mongoloid to term. This cannot be forgiven. This is the ultimate reproach to the entire belief system of the left. Sarah Palin need not even open her mouth and she is hated with a cold and unremitting fury.

This is why I said that the left hates Sarah Palin not for what she says or how she appears on television but for who she is. The left must react as evil always reacts in the presence of good. Like the second mate, they must persecute Sarah Palin and they do not even know why.

But Sarah Palin ought to know why if she is going to be able to cope with a brick bats that will come her way. She must know that she can never charm these people. The more she tries the more they will hate her. She must focus on her target, the conservative base which she will keep so long as she is faithful and the independent middle which is persuadable if she can appear to be a normal and a wholesome person.

" ...

Further for the record, my opinion of her character has not varied. I speak only as an armchair pundit about her electability, not her virtues.


96 posted on 08/21/2011 7:12:47 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: political1
She quit in Alaska

Why??

97 posted on 08/21/2011 7:14:57 AM PDT by Logic n' Reason (The stain must be REMOVED (ERADICATED)....NOW!!)
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To: grey_whiskers
Maybe because her husband is legally Inuit?

That would make her children partially Native American or Eskimo, or whatever and makes it a little difficult to trump her with the race card. But n.b. that did not stop the media from playing the race card against Sen. Phil Gramm and his wife was Chinese.

What about Mitch McConnell?


98 posted on 08/21/2011 7:18:46 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford
So I gather two main points from your post every Republican since Eisenhower is portrayed as stupid. (This is true)

Sarah Palin needs to overcome this portrayal.

Well this is not an insurmountable feat. Since I suppose if it were, Eisenhower and every Republican candidate since him would have never been elected then... If the vast majority of voters bought into this garbage.

99 posted on 08/21/2011 7:22:28 AM PDT by Tempest (Ruining the day of corporate butt kissers everywhere.)
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To: Windflier
The truth is nobody really knows. We have hope and high expectations. One thing is certain, conservatism wouldn't be where it is today without Sarah Palin's leadership.

At the very minimum she will energize the base and pressure the 2012 GOP field further to the right. Whether she wins the nomination, or not, she will put her imprint on it. And, yes, she has as much of a chance to win it as any of leading candidates.
100 posted on 08/21/2011 7:25:29 AM PDT by Quicksilver (Defeat Obama)
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