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Could a Palin presidential bid rewrite the campaign rulebook?
CBS News' Political Hotsheet ^ | August 23, 2011 | Lucy Madison

Posted on 08/23/2011 8:29:29 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Conventional wisdom dictates that Sarah Palin is not running for president: it's too late; the field is too crowded, and many think she is more interested in making money than running for office.

On top of that, the onetime vice presidential candidate has failed to build substantial campaign apparatus in crucial early primary states. She has seemingly declined to aggressively court big-name, big-dollar Republican donors, and she has watched as countless top GOP operatives join her possible competitors' campaigns.

Palin, many believe, has handicapped her own prospects for 2012 and decided to sit it out.

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"Her campaign, if it is a campaign, just truly baffles me," says Republican strategist Eric Woolson, who managed former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee's Iowa campaign in 2008 and worked on former Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty's 2012 bid until his recent withdrawal from the race. "She's not doing interviews; she really doesn't have the infrastructure around her that she would have typically set up by this point of the game... All of us would say, gosh, she should have had that infrastructure in place two years ago."(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Iowa; Campaign News; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: 2012; iowa; notrunning; palin; palin2012; sarahpalin
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To: gov_bean_ counter; Polybius
Poly may soon be on the clock.

As well he should be. I'm all for an open and honest evaluation of a candidate's strengths and weaknesses, but his accusations against Sarah are among the most insidious of all the trolls here. He accuses her of intentionally abusing the trust of millions of good people, without a scintilla of evidence. That is pure, indefensible defamation, character assassination with a blunt instrument, and it is too vile and base to have any legitimate place in this conversation.

BTW, Poly (you "cipher" you), I've seen the kind of "evidence" you rely on in your "noble" effort to "save us" from Palin, for our own good of course. How big-brotherish of you. All I can say is if you truly are a doctor, I sincerely hope you have, for your patients’ sake, a significantly higher evidentiary standard for diagnostic analysis than the chicken doo doo you spread around here. Put another way, if I'm an attorney (and I am), you're the medmal expert witness I really, really want to have ... on the other side. Easy money. Just sayin ...

51 posted on 08/23/2011 9:47:22 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Michael Barnes

I have also recently learned she has a photographic memory. That’s an unfair advantage over TOTUS, but oh well.


52 posted on 08/23/2011 9:58:29 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Lazlo in PA
I did miss it. I would like to see the story if you have it.

I'll see if I can find it tonight. At work now.
53 posted on 08/23/2011 10:08:43 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

because she accepts the fact that the media has done an effective job of convincing enough people that she shouldnt be president, and she loves the country enough to put it first instead of her self. I love her and wish she could make it. Just too many people have fallen for the lies about her, or they are women who are jealous of her.


54 posted on 08/23/2011 10:15:43 AM PDT by jdub (A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"They" rewrote the book on campaign coverage for Dunham Soetoro:
* No rectal exam
* No problem unsealing an opponent's divorce decree
* A pass on college transcripts
* A pass on executive experience
* A pass on the 1999 Limo Ride
* A pass on Donald Young and the campaign calls
...and the list goes on.
55 posted on 08/23/2011 10:17:05 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all......)
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To: Springfield Reformer

You know, I was thinking. All these *smart* people running off at the mouth about Sarah not having an organization. They know this how, exactly? Are they in her living room? I have seen that she has hired some exceptionally good people and I know that some of the people advising her are exceptional as well.
As for the money...Sarah doesn’t need to BUY us...and she can’t be bought, so why is it so important to THEM that she surround herself with big moneymen like say, perry has? Or like bachmann is trying to? Are they really that stupid?


56 posted on 08/23/2011 10:19:11 AM PDT by MestaMachine (If the truth hurts, prepare yourself for a LOT of pain.)
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To: basil
Could a Palin presidential bid rewrite the campaign rulebook

Correction: DID

57 posted on 08/23/2011 10:19:20 AM PDT by urtax$@work (The only kind of memorial is a Burning memorial !)
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To: Polybius

you have no clue as to how people will react to her. She draws thousands at her events. They jsut had to move her upcoming event to an outdoor venue because of the crowds expected. People will do for Sarah Palin what they need to do because they KNOW that SHE will do what is right for our country which will benefit THEM and their families by putting them back to work, bring back the jobs to THIS country and get manufacturing back in the good ole USA. She won’t be popular that is UNTIL those who love to spew hate realize they are spewing hate from their desks becuase they NOW have a job. Never underestimate the people of this country when their backs are up against the wall or they are pushed into a corner.


58 posted on 08/23/2011 10:23:56 AM PDT by cubreporter (From TEA to Shining TEA - Go Rush Limbaugh..a giant of all that is good.)
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To: hosepipe; onyx
"...Palin has nothing to add that Bachmann does not already have.. PAlin running would be counter productive..."

You mean other than substantial accomplishments and extensive executive experience?

59 posted on 08/23/2011 10:25:42 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Gov. Sarah Palin. What'll you do?)
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To: TomServo

I don’t raise money for PACs. When she declares, she’ll get $2 million dollars from my efforts. Apples and oranges.


60 posted on 08/23/2011 10:27:21 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Gov. Sarah Palin. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
When she declares..

Sure.

61 posted on 08/23/2011 10:31:05 AM PDT by TomServo
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To: presently no screen name

“They are terrified of the thought ‘We The People’ being empowered instead of them, the elitist.”

I do believe you’re right. “We the people” need to initiate lots and lots of investigations, and throw lots and lots of elites in prison, not to mention seizing their asets. So, yeh, “terrified” is the right word.


62 posted on 08/23/2011 10:40:30 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: TomServo

So you’re calling me a liar? Or her? Which is it?


63 posted on 08/23/2011 10:57:01 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Gov. Sarah Palin. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is the “consultants” like Eric who don’t care who they work for which are confused. Once she announces there are principled folks who have all the skills these hacks claim to have who will be at her call, and the grassroots “money bomb” she does will make Ron Paul’s look like a fire cracker.


64 posted on 08/23/2011 10:57:07 AM PDT by Waywardson (Carry on! Nothing equals the splendor!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“...She has seemingly declined to aggressively court big-name, big-dollar Republican donors,..”

This is good. Perry will get that kind of money, as he is the guy who plays politics to Power. He promised Palin that he wasn’t going to run in 2012. Uh-huh. Well, maybe he can be her running mate but frankly, I wouldn’t trust a man who lies.

There are millions of people just waiting for her to announce.


65 posted on 08/23/2011 10:59:13 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: SoConPubbie; definitelynotaliberal
"In case you missed the story yesterday, she already has the organization sewed up in Iowa according to campaign staffers from other campaigns, in fact, they stated they had never seen anything like it before, a completely volunteer organization in place even before the candidate announces."

At this point the press has to know this. These people are not hiding. They are at events, signing up mailing lists, recruiting volunteers and passing out Palin palm cards. I conclude that the press is pretending they are not there to make the public think Palin has no support.

Their hatred and bias blinds them. Remember it was Gore I believe that said the tea party's opinions were not legitimate and should not be heard. It is the same here. They are trying to freeze out Sarah by pretending that she doesn't have support i.e. us. If they hate her they will hate us.

I think too that their own bigotry blinds them and they do not want to look at what is happening. The elite's preconception of what a politician is does not include average, middle class Americans. They cannot see us or won't see us or both.

Definitelynotaliberal, this may not be the specific link you are looking for but here is a link to an interview with Peter Singleton, the O4P organizer in Iowa. Tammy Bruce interviewed him on Saturday and they both have important information. Peter says he has organization in all 99 Iowa counties. He says the press walks right by him and have no clue what is going on.

Go Here for Peter Singleton Interview

Regards, Mr. Sol

66 posted on 08/23/2011 10:59:13 AM PDT by Solar Wind
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
[ You mean other than substantial accomplishments and extensive executive experience? ]

They both are business people.. (own businesses)..
Both have experience balancing books.. and making hard decisions..

Literally NO ONE is prepared to be POTUS..
Even if they have vast governmental experience..
American politics is meant to be run by citizens not professionals..

The most prepared to be POTUS is Juan McLaim.. or Myth Romney..
And who in their right mnd would want that?..

Bachmann is fully prepared to disassemble the federal government.. NOT BUILD IT UP..
So is Sarah Palin.. but we do not need BOTH jockeying for the same position..
Let Sarah Palin become "Disassembly Czar" with G. Gordon Liddy as enforcer..

67 posted on 08/23/2011 11:14:03 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: hosepipe
How is John McCain, a senator, the “most” prepared? The only executive position he has ever held was squadron commander after his POW experience shortly before retirement. Sarah Palin was a city councilwoman, mayor, chairwoman of an energy department and governor. Michele Bachmann has absolutely no government executive experience that I'm aware of. As for Mitt Romney, his disastrous governorship speaks for itself.
68 posted on 08/23/2011 11:19:04 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Gov. Sarah Palin. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

[ How is John McCain, a senator, the “most” prepared? ]

He is a Senator.. the wisdom is nobody from the House can be elected.. but it must be a Senator or Governor..

The Senate for the most part is an Asylum.. and States (all of them) are quite confused..

It will take somebody with brass balls to take a meat axe to the federal government..
Sarah could do it.. but so could Michele..

I like Ron Paul, he surely could, but he tends to go off his meds..
As he says, He just wants to re-direct the conversation, well so be it..

Michele would do a bang up job of Disassembly.. anything LESS than disassembly would a Cloward-Piven Coup..


69 posted on 08/23/2011 11:30:05 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"When she declares, she’ll get $2 million dollars from my efforts."

Good for you. You go 2nd Division Vet.

Regards, Mr. Sol.

70 posted on 08/23/2011 12:33:29 PM PDT by Solar Wind
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bookmark this article so we can throw it back in Lucy’s face after Sarah announces


71 posted on 08/23/2011 12:44:39 PM PDT by hattend (If I wanted you dead, you'd be dead. - Cameron Connor)
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To: MestaMachine
All these *smart* people running off at the mouth about Sarah not having an organization

Not to mention O4P. There's already an O4P chapter in most states, and even here in deep blue Illinois we are a thriving entity, racking up volunteer body count, making converts, and otherwise getting ready for the big push when General Palin gives the word. In Obama's home state, mind you. Yes, we are being series misunderestimated, and that is hugh. :)

72 posted on 08/23/2011 12:56:02 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: jdub
IMO she is campaigning for vice president.

Ha! It is clear you know little about the Wasilla Warrior. Her dad used that expression about "not retreating but reloading" out of a deep knowledge of her character. She is a fighter, and a winner. It's like someone once said, you never can lose if you never give up. That's her. I really wish I was a betting man. I could really clean up with how badly people here are underestimating and misunderstanding her. Too much fun. :)

73 posted on 08/23/2011 1:11:41 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Solar Wind

Thank you, Solar Wind. It’s actually not the link I was looking for, but I enjoyed the conversation with Singleton. The link I’m looking for, specifically, is the one where campaign staffers from other campaigns marvel at Palin’s support. The poster to whom I’d responded (SoCon Pubbie, I think) had said this:

In case you missed the story yesterday, she already has the organization sewed up in Iowa according to campaign staffers from other campaigns, in fact, they stated they had never seen anything like it before, a completely volunteer organization in place even before the candidate announces.


74 posted on 08/23/2011 2:40:10 PM PDT by definitelynotaliberal (Nov. 6, 2012 - Rebut, refute, refudiate!)
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To: definitelynotaliberal

“a completely volunteer organization in place even before the candidate announces.”

With thousands more within a 5-10 hour radius willing to drive in and help.

If Sarah runs, this will be the first campaign I have committed myself personally to since 1980.


75 posted on 08/23/2011 2:50:44 PM PDT by tcrlaf (PREFRONTAL LOBOTOMISTS FOR OBAMA2012!)
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To: tcrlaf

Likewise. Yesterday, I told 6 people (quite smoothly, I might add) what the distance is between Alaska and Russia and made them aware of how we had all been conned by the media.


76 posted on 08/23/2011 2:56:37 PM PDT by definitelynotaliberal (Nov. 6, 2012 - Rebut, refute, refudiate!)
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To: Michael Barnes

“If you recall as well, Her very first speech (during acceptance), HER teleprompter had problems and she winged it for a couple minutes until it was straightened out, nary a soul realized. She’s very fast on her feet and prepared for those situations.”

It was during the teleprompter blackout that she saw the hockey mom’s for Palin sign and got off the line, “I love those hockey moms. Ya know, the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull? Lipstick!”

Totally in control while raising the roof. One of the great ad libs in convention history.


77 posted on 08/23/2011 4:08:18 PM PDT by 17ks
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rasmussen has a poll showing a Palin/Obama matchup at:

Obama 50
Palin 33

If you think nominating someone who can’t even break 35% against a President with approval ratings in the 30s is a good idea, go right ahead.


78 posted on 08/23/2011 7:54:29 PM PDT by RockinRight (The ObamAA+ Downgrade)
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To: Jeff Head

“I believe she will take on and defeat the other GOP candidates, and then believe that she will mop the floor with Obama.”

Keep telling yourself that, and maybe it’ll come true:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/obama_50_palin_33


79 posted on 08/23/2011 7:56:15 PM PDT by RockinRight (The ObamAA+ Downgrade)
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To: RockinRight

So you believe whatever pollsters and pundits feed you? How come McCain’s numbers went up so much when she joined the ticket? Why did a man from Hollywood make a movie (with his own money!) about her? Why does the media, White House, DNC, entertainment community, nutroots and cable TV attack her day-and-night if they don’t fear her?


80 posted on 08/23/2011 8:10:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Gov. Sarah Palin. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She peaked on DAY ONE. Downhill from there.

A movie that was a total flop?

Look, I agree that she got a raw deal. It doesn’t change the fact that her negatives are worse than Obama’s. It’s one thing to make up a 10 pt deficit, something else entirely to make up a 17 point deficit with an opponent OVER FIFTY PERCENT.


81 posted on 08/23/2011 8:35:52 PM PDT by RockinRight (The ObamAA+ Downgrade)
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To: RockinRight
Let's see what happens. I believe she will get in and the numbers will go up immediately.

Then she has to win what is going to be a heted primary contest.

Then we will see what the numbers are. At this poiint, barring something unforseen, I will absolutely support her through that fight.

If you want to write her off now based on polls...that's your call. But remember then, you would also have written off ROnald Reagan.

82 posted on 08/23/2011 8:46:27 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Polybius

“September 3 is being hyped as the latest “Sarah Declaration Day”.”

By who????? Not by Sarah Palin! Your spin continues, despite your lack of knowledge or credibility.

Sarah has said that she believes September/October would be the month to declare in. Take her at her word....September has 30 days... October has 31....... your crystal ball will tell us which day she has planned. Conventional Wisdom be danged.

Your whole purpose for that post was to build up disapointment and discord among Palin’s suppotive ranks. Like Obama you’re an epic failure both in this and your other previous posts.


83 posted on 08/25/2011 4:53:47 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (Palin/West 2012)
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To: basil

And those rules apply only to her. No one else could run a campaign/non-campaign this way. The media is deranged and they can’t stop talking about her, whether she joins the race or not. I’m hoping she does.


84 posted on 08/25/2011 5:00:34 PM PDT by rabidralph
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