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Romney has clear lead among Republicans: poll
WPMT-TV / Reuters ^ | November 13, 2011 | Patricia Zengerle

Posted on 11/12/2011 10:53:09 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Mitt Romney has a growing lead in the race for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination, and almost half of the party's voters expect him to be the nominee, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll.

Twenty-eight percent of Republicans backed the former Massachusetts governor, giving him a lead of 8 percentage points over his nearest challenger Herman Cain in the poll, taken November 10-11.

Romney was 5 percentage points ahead in a survey November 7-8.

Newt Gingrich, the U.S. House of Representatives speaker in the mid-1990s, solidified a recent rise among conservatives seeking an alternative to the more moderate Romney, coming in third place in the current poll with 16 percent.

Gingrich, who is seen as having performed well in recent debates, was viewed as the second-most "presidential" of the Republican hopefuls, according to the poll.

Whether or not they support him, almost half of the Republicans surveyed expect Romney to become the nominee to oppose President Barack Obama, a Democrat, in the November 2012 election.

Romney, who also ran for president in 2008, has been in first or second place in polls for months and enjoys by far the most campaign funds of the Republican field.

But some in his party see him as too liberal, and he has so far failed to significantly boost his level of support in polls. The latest Reuters/Ipsos poll, however, shows he is benefiting from missteps by his rivals.

"As the other candidates falter, his image comes into relief," Ipsos pollster Cliff Young said....

(Excerpt) Read more at fox43.com ...


TOPICS: Campaign News; Parties; Polls; State and Local
KEYWORDS: cain; gingrich; perry; romney
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1 posted on 11/12/2011 10:53:10 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The MSM is trying to pick our candidate again. Most polls show Romney to be below Newt, who is below Cain. And, Newt has yet to experience the full wrath of the attack media.


2 posted on 11/12/2011 10:59:08 PM PST by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: Thunder90

clear lead my foot.


3 posted on 11/12/2011 10:59:34 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I only know one person who supports Romney. They support him because he is lds and so are they.


4 posted on 11/12/2011 11:00:43 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No Romney for the Gipper.


5 posted on 11/12/2011 11:02:09 PM PST by stars & stripes forever ( Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Lies, damnable lies!


6 posted on 11/12/2011 11:05:12 PM PST by STD (Cut Taxes, Cut Spending Stupid!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Romney got it, who do you think he would pick as a running mate? I have three in mind— Jeb Bush, Michele Bachmann or Herman Cain.

I pray we can keep Romney out.


7 posted on 11/12/2011 11:15:01 PM PST by Irenic
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is the Establishment trying to ensure Obama another 4 years.

They want Cain out of there. They tried to sling mud at him and it did not work. Now they are trying to pretend everyone is for Mitt Romney. Please give me a break!


8 posted on 11/12/2011 11:17:34 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: Irenic

Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush, Condaleeza Rice or Colin Powell are my guesses.


9 posted on 11/12/2011 11:19:52 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

But didn’t you know? Mitt had a ‘moment of clarity’ after he became governor here in MA! He suddenly saw the light!

You obviously haven’t kept up on his flip-flop on this—uh, I mean, his coming to a new understanding...or whatever...


10 posted on 11/12/2011 11:27:31 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Obama: The stupid person`s idea of a smart person.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Mitt Romney’s VP:
John Huntsman
John McCain
Rice
Powell
Jeb Bush


11 posted on 11/12/2011 11:32:22 PM PST by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That poll is just bullcr*p. Everyone I know, absolutely hates that Stepford husband.


12 posted on 11/12/2011 11:35:04 PM PST by savagesusie
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To: savagesusie
Everyone I know, absolutely hates that Stepford husband.

Stepford husband !? :-) HAHAHA! ... I love it.


13 posted on 11/13/2011 12:37:57 AM PST by Bobalu (More rubble, less trouble)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The problem with national polls is that Primaries aren’t fought nationally. Plus big Democrat states with open primaries skew the results naturally towards the liberal in the race as they did before Reagan was nominated. There was even an effort to recruit Gerald Ford for a Carter rematch. We know what really happened. Any time we see a national poll related to the primary we should just dismiss it because in the end it will not matter. The state by state polling makes by far the biggest difference but even those polls this far out aren’t predictive not when you still have as much as 1/3 of primary voters or more still undecided or not entirely committed.

Romney’s high polling has always been about his low key posture. He’s said to win a debate without often saying anything at all. He avoids all but very controlled media.
Its the same effect that we get with a politician who is out of office for a while. Their positives go up because people can’t remember what in the hell they did wrong.

Romney has the math against him. The problem is that we have Gingrich rising and Cain fighting a narrative that is designed to tear him down just like Palin. What he needs to do is bring on conservative military/foreign policy advisers and shuffle his team. He needs to stop the erosion and he needs to leverage his story and his expertise more.


14 posted on 11/13/2011 12:49:55 AM PST by Maelstorm (Better to keep your enemy in your sights than in your camp expecting him to guard your back.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I can't vote for Romney, it would mean an abandonment of much of what I've stood for in almost 50 years as a Republican.

I've made the "lesser of evils" choice before, and watched as the GOP moved ever farther left, and away from the Constitution.

I won't follow any farther.

15 posted on 11/13/2011 3:25:48 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Let me throw out what will probably prove to be a foolish question. With all of these polls being bandied about, does anybody know what percentage of voters will not vote for Romney under any circumstances?

If we want to return the Kenyan to the White Hut, make Romney the (R) nominee. That’s my opinion. I WILL NOT vote for Romney, period.


16 posted on 11/13/2011 3:47:05 AM PST by Rearden (Deo Vindice)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Any poll showing Romney is in double digits is a lie.


17 posted on 11/13/2011 3:49:49 AM PST by Mechanicos (Why does the DOE have a SWAT Team?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
RINOBOYS
18 posted on 11/13/2011 4:52:21 AM PST by FrankR (What you resist...PERSISTS!)
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To: svcw
I only know one person who supports Romney. They support him because he is lds and so are they.

You obviously haven't been reading the comments on FR - it looks like most of FR supports Romney - they've trashed all the other candidates for one tort or another and get so busy doing it they never bother to trash Romney. They just speak out the side of their mouths that they don't want him, while doing everything they can to ensure he's it.

19 posted on 11/13/2011 4:58:34 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Romney, Dole, Bushes, McCain-—all cut from essentially the same cloth.
Can’t we run a CONSERATIVE this time?
Please?
Pretty please?
Pretty please with sugar on top???


20 posted on 11/13/2011 5:22:32 AM PST by Flintlock (Photo ID for all voters. Let the dead rest in peace.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I saw this too. It makes me marinate on two things...

1) Obama ads are attacking Romney. I haven’t seen a negative ad about any other candidate except him. Why do you think that is?

2) Obama seems to ignore Cain despite polls providing evidence that he should not. Why?

Is Cain just a niche candidate? Loved here, but essentially unknown to the average voter?

As much as I like Cain, I’m starting to think he’s nothing more than a novelty. Pity.


21 posted on 11/13/2011 5:24:20 AM PST by Solaia (Ladies and gentlemen take my advice: pull down your pants and slide on the ice.)
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To: Solaia
Is Cain just a niche candidate? Loved here, but essentially unknown to the average voter?

Yep, he's raised 9 million dollars in a very short time because he's a virtual unknown nation wide......think about it

22 posted on 11/13/2011 5:36:27 AM PST by CAluvdubya (I STAND WITH CAIN)
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To: GeronL

He has a clear lead.. On the race to the bottom.


23 posted on 11/13/2011 5:37:50 AM PST by cableguymn
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://www.selfgovernment.us/


24 posted on 11/13/2011 5:39:10 AM PST by EternalVigilance (I'm not a Republican and I'm not a Democrat. I'm an American. SelfGovernment.US)
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To: CAluvdubya

You get Romney, there’s a good chance you’ll get a Huntsman a as a VP.


25 posted on 11/13/2011 5:40:00 AM PST by bigdirty
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To: Irenic

If Romney got it, who do you think he would pick as a running mate? I have three in mind— Jeb Bush, Michele Bachmann or Herman Cain.


Bachmann or Cain.. Most likely Bachmann.. Just look to the last election. The Rino thinks a conservative VP will help him win.

This time around I won’t be voting because of the VP.. I see very little difference between Romney and Zero.. I’ll work to get control of the senate turned over to conservatives and send more conservatives to the house.

I will NOT vote for Romney. (flame away!)


26 posted on 11/13/2011 5:40:21 AM PST by cableguymn
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To: bigdirty

I can’t imagine a worse ticket.....Romney/Huntsman UGH!


27 posted on 11/13/2011 5:55:50 AM PST by CAluvdubya (I STAND WITH CAIN)
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To: bigdirty

“You get Romney, there’s a good chance you’ll get a Huntsman a as a VP.”

They don’t like each other.


28 posted on 11/13/2011 5:57:56 AM PST by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: bigdirty

Not a chance. They don’t like each other, and Mitt isn’t going to pick another Mormon on the ticket, no way, no how. He needs a VP who will bring him help in the south.


29 posted on 11/13/2011 6:07:54 AM PST by Ripliancum (Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you. -Eph. 4:31)
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To: trebb

It’s so bizarre to me how the conservative candidates have all given Romney a pass and instead destroyed each other. If I were conspiratorially-minded...

But seriously, why have the con candidates ignored Romney and savaged one another? So self-destructive. I’m already mentally prepared to hold my nose and campaign for him in the general. But in a country of 300 million people, this was the best we could do?


30 posted on 11/13/2011 6:10:40 AM PST by Discoshaman
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To: trebb

it looks like most of FR supports Romney ... they never bother to trash Romney.

__________________________________________________________________________

Wow. What web site are you reading?!!! We’re all here on FR.


31 posted on 11/13/2011 6:10:56 AM PST by Ripliancum (Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you. -Eph. 4:31)
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To: Irenic
If Romney got it, who do you think he would pick as a running mate? I have three in mind— Jeb Bush, Michele Bachmann or Herman Cain.

If Romney is selected by the MSM/Powers-that-be, I don't give a crap who he selects for VP; I won't vote for him. I played that gave with McCain. The RINO infested GOP can pound sand.

32 posted on 11/13/2011 6:11:49 AM PST by 6SJ7 (I'm an AmeriCain!)
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To: Discoshaman
But seriously, why have the con candidates ignored Romney and savaged one another?

Because as "black" is to criticism of Obama, so "Mormon" is to criticism of Romney.
33 posted on 11/13/2011 6:12:26 AM PST by aruanan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Romney = Low Republican Turnout = Obama Second Term.

Romney = McCain 2.0 = Dole 3.0 (the RINO machine / Media candidate)


34 posted on 11/13/2011 6:23:31 AM PST by BereanBrain
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To: Irenic

Even Sarah Palin could not save McCain.

A RINO Pres with a Conservative VP is a no-win.

Why? Because conservatives have been treated like #$*&!& by the RINOs in the last 30 years.

How? Read my Lips. (among many)


35 posted on 11/13/2011 6:27:02 AM PST by BereanBrain
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Carp, they’re trying to give us another McLame.


36 posted on 11/13/2011 6:34:49 AM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: Discoshaman

“But seriously, why have the con candidates ignored Romney and savaged one another? So self-destructive. I’m already mentally prepared to hold my nose and campaign for him in the general. But in a country of 300 million people, this was the best we could do?..”

Because it’s a conspiracy, man. The Democrats have infiltrated the campaigns of our most conservative candidates and convinced them to go after each other. Ya know, they’re picking our GOP candidate for us. They’re convincing Rick Perry to sound like an idget in our debates to kill him and he’s buying into it. They’ve convinced all of these anonymous women to come out and play-pretend that they had inappropriate contact with Cain. Any they’ve convinced Cain to play along clumsily.

It’s all the Dems, man, they are even contriving to hide Romney amidst the fog of it all so that he can get the nomination in spite of all of these super, bright, well-spoken, and truly deserving “conservative” candidates who clearly own the next election.

Yeah, man, if it wasn’t for the Democrats evilly controlling our own nomination process and manipulating each and every public opinion poll that comes out then we’d be getting ready to re-nominate Thomas Jefferson, ya see.

Yeah, just sit in your padded room and mumble about a Democrat conspiracy over and over. That should make you feel better....


37 posted on 11/13/2011 6:38:04 AM PST by JoenTX (?)
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To: trebb
You obviously haven't been reading the comments on FR - it looks like most of FR supports Romney - they've trashed all the other candidates for one tort or another and get so busy doing it they never bother to trash Romney. They just speak out the side of their mouths that they don't want him, while doing everything they can to ensure he's it.

Have you been in a coma since you signed on in 2002?
38 posted on 11/13/2011 6:48:24 AM PST by aruanan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet


39 posted on 11/13/2011 10:25:27 AM PST by Lady4Liberty (Watch Romney endorse Obama's radical liberal agenda: http://youtu.be/i1fThdWagJ4)
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To: Solaia

How can a novelty candidate lead or place 2nd in national polls?


40 posted on 11/13/2011 10:57:06 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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Romney should never be the GOP Nom. If by some bizarre twist he is, I (and Millions) will not vote for him. Get lost, Romney (and all his loony supporters). And take Huntsman with ya. Thanks man.


41 posted on 11/13/2011 1:42:33 PM PST by NoRedTape
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Mitt has been running for 5 years and has only convinced about 25% of his own party to support him. How is it that people think he the guy who has the best shot at beating Obama?


42 posted on 11/13/2011 1:46:16 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: trebb

Trying to figure this out. Are you saying you think that FR is a pro Romney site?


43 posted on 11/13/2011 2:50:18 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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44 posted on 11/13/2011 4:16:54 PM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: BenKenobi; All

Cain will hang “Romneycare/Obamacare around Romney’s throat, and then.....goodbye Romney : )


45 posted on 11/14/2011 5:59:53 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: svcw
Trying to figure this out. Are you saying you think that FR is a pro Romney site?

Not intentionally. It just seems that every time some MSM Lib posts anything about Perry/Cain/Newt, the kneejerk hitpieces start showing up. While most will say they don't want Romney, it's a minority of initial posts that start out anti-Romney - he seems to be an afterthought.

When I see Freepers sputing MS crud about the other candidates, especially when the claims are either inaccurate or even made up, it scares the bejeezus out of me. If FR folks (many of whom I have admired over the last 9 years, jump to trash those that give us the best chance of restoring some sanity, it appears that Romney will the most unscathed, both by us and the MSM until it's too late to even settle for him in the General Election.

While we all have our pet peeves, we needn't get so rabid that we get blind to the big picture and what's at stake.

46 posted on 11/19/2011 4:50:10 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: trebb

FR is not a pro Romney site even by default.
The purpose of the primary is to hash out all these issues.
This woman (me) will not vote or Romney, he is no different politically that BHO. In my opinion, that is how most FR posters feel.


47 posted on 11/19/2011 7:04:41 AM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: aruanan; trebb
Trebb, just checking up on your claim to have once been opposed to Romney and it doesn't look all that good for you.

Even now ~ months later than this thread ~ we still have a majority of Freepers who do more than express misgivings about Romney ~ many continue to object strenuously to the idea of giving over the Republican Party to the Abomination of Desolation that the RINOs and Leftwingtards represent.

The dude is not the nominee today and we still have some time for almost magical (but wholly predictable) events to transpire that will FORCE the GOP-e out of the party and give rise to a renaissance of Conservatism.

Even MItt is smart enough to know he can't win ~ the hurdle he has to overcome ~ declining Republican Presidential voters and a 10 million vote margin for Obama~ we need a real Republican in this race ~ not a pale imitation of a Democrat.

48 posted on 06/30/2012 3:54:10 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: JoenTX; Discoshaman
A reminder ~ some time later than this post I dug up the IDs of everyone who signed on with the RNC to run for President this year. There were 16 such people.

ONLY 3 of them had been lifelong Conservative Republicans!

So, yeah, there were 13 RINOS and other infiltrators ~ even out and out Democrat politicians ~ who ran in the Republican primaries for the purpose of clearing the field of Conservatives and ushering MItt, the 20% candidate, in at the top of the list.

He still only commands 20% of the Republican vote ~ he's a loser.

49 posted on 06/30/2012 3:59:44 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Trebb, just checking up on your claim to have once been opposed to Romney and it doesn't look all that good for you. Even now ~ months later than this thread ~ we still have a majority of Freepers who do more than express misgivings about Romney ~ many continue to object strenuously to the idea of giving over the Republican Party to the Abomination of Desolation that the RINOs and Leftwingtards represent.
50 posted on 07/01/2012 4:34:23 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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