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2012 Presidential Election Electoral Vote Map & Projection
Freedom's Lighthouse ^ | February 17, 2012

Posted on 02/18/2012 4:39:12 PM PST by Clintonfatigued

270 Electoral Votes Needed To Win

Likely GOP Votes - 224

Likely Dem Votes - 217

Tossup Votes - 97

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1 posted on 02/18/2012 4:39:18 PM PST by Clintonfatigued
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To: Clintonfatigued

it will all be about ohio. just like it was in 2004.


2 posted on 02/18/2012 4:47:44 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; GOPsterinMA; randita; Sun; BillyBoy; cripplecreek; ...

If someone could put up a picture of this map on this thread, it would be helpful.

Here’s my take- barring something unexpected, the nominee will be either Rick Santorum or Mitt Romney. There are 97 electoral votes up for grabs on this map.

Pennsylvania is a key. Obama won it by a comfortable margin last time, but is now unpopular there. But he still has the bastions of Philly and Pittsburg, which could be enough to win it again. If Rick Santorum is the nominee, he would do well, but not be guaranteed to win there. An aristocratic plutocrat like Romney wouldn’t appeal there. However, he would still have a shot.

Ohio is another state where Santorum would be a pretty good fit, and Romney far less so. Obama just narrowly won it last time and is highly unpopular there. Santorum’s Midwestern working class Catholic roots should be appealing. Romney could still win it, but as with Pennsylvania, his chances would rest entirely on being the alternative to Obama.

Wisconsin bears close watching. This summer, Governor Scott Walker faces a recall vote. The outcome of this will reflect on Republican chances this fall. Santorum would be polarizing there, while Romney would be less so. There will be a U.S. Senate race there and the likely Democrat nominee will be very polarizing.

North Carolina just barely went for Obama last time, but he will make it a top priority this year. Much population growth is in areas that are trending DemocRAT. Romney may appeal to some of its swing voters, white-collar workers and entrepreneurs who support free enterprise and don’t place importance on cultural issues. How will its Protestant Evangelicals react to a strong Catholic like Santorum? Time will tell.

Virginia bears close watching. Obama won it by more than expected against McCain and much of its population growth is from government workers. Mitt Romney might appeal to swing voters in northern Virginia. Rick Santorum is expected to appeal in the southern and western parts of the state, but these areas are strongly Protestant. Popular Governor Bob McConnell is considered a possible running mate for either candidate and he could easily tip the state to the GOP.

Iowa is the Vermont of the midwest and I expect Obama to win it. However, Santorum should be able to swing working-class Catholic Democrats to his column while winning big margins in the conservative western parts of the state, making it close. I don’t see how Romney can win here.

Obama won big here in Nevada 2008, but the state’s economy has tanked on his watch. Nevada has a significant Mormon population and Romney will have natural appeal.
He may also appeal to its white collar voters, particularly in Las Vegas. There is also Libertarian sentiment there. If Santorum is the nominee, we can probably write it off.

Colorado also went for Obama by more than expected. Romney may have appeal, both in the Denver suburbs and at the western edge of the state, which has a higher-than-average population of Mormons. Rick Santorum might have some appeal to Hispanics, who are overwhelmingly Catholic. I still give Obama a slight advantage there.

A few other states could tip the other way than what they’re currently leaning. Florida leans our way, but is very unpredictable. We can’t count on it. New Hampshire went for Obama comfortably before and another win there can’t be ruled out. Maine went heavily Republican in 2010 and Romney may appeal there. Montana almost voted for Obama in 2008 and he’ll try to flip it to offset losing Indiana, which he unexpectedly won. Democrats claim that Arizona only voted for McCain out of home-state loyalty and will spend heavily there this year. Running mates could put in play states which currently aren’t. New Jersey Governor Chris Christie probably can’t tip his home state in spite of his popularity there, but he would make it competitive, forcing Obama to spend money in its costly media market. Same with former Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty, who has won statewide against considerable odds twice.


3 posted on 02/18/2012 5:06:52 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (A chameleon belongs in a pet store, not the White House)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Three switches from Obama to GOP and 8 from Obama to tossup.

Colorado Obama +9% to tossup
Florida Obama +3% to GOP
Indiana Obama +1% to GOP
Iowa Obama +10% to tossup
Nevada Obama +12% to tossup
New Hampshire Obama +10% to GOP
North Carolina Obama +0.33% to tossup
Ohio Obama +5% to tossup
Pennsylvania Obama +10% to tossup
Virginia Obama +6% to tossup
Wisconsin Obama +14% to tossup

I'm surprised about the difference between Wisconsin (14 point shift) vs. North Carolina (less than a point shift).

4 posted on 02/18/2012 5:06:52 PM PST by KarlInOhio (You only have three billion heartbeats in a lifetime.How many does the government claim as its own?)
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To: Clintonfatigued
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5 posted on 02/18/2012 5:10:51 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

Great posting.


6 posted on 02/18/2012 5:14:53 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (A chameleon belongs in a pet store, not the White House)
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To: KarlInOhio

I wouldn’t count too heavily on Michigan if I were Obama either. Things have changed a great deal here since 08. Our voter ID law is in full force and we have a secretary of state who sees her primary job as protecting the integrity of our elections.

Tea party sentiment is strong here and the GOP ran the table in 2010. The democrats lost many seats and didn’t pick up a single seat above the county level. The fact that Santorum leads Romney here shows a sea change in sentiment.


7 posted on 02/18/2012 5:17:58 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

Too bad we have to share this great land with those who loath it. i.e. Øbama-bots


8 posted on 02/18/2012 5:29:56 PM PST by bicyclerepair ( REPLACE D-W-S ! http://www.karenforcongress.com)
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To: KarlInOhio
I think that map is wrong on Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Virginia.

JMHO

9 posted on 02/18/2012 5:39:16 PM PST by Rashputin (Obama stark, raving, mad, and even his security people know it.)
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To: Clintonfatigued; cripplecreek

Thanks to you hard working Freepers who posted this.


10 posted on 02/18/2012 5:43:14 PM PST by Mountain Mary (Freedom is at stake in this election. Rick Santorum)
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To: Clintonfatigued

What about Arizona?


11 posted on 02/18/2012 5:44:31 PM PST by Mountain Mary (Freedom is at stake in this election. Rick Santorum)
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To: Rashputin

Obummer is not well liked here in PA. It was Hitlery country in the ‘08 Primary. PA is not going to be an easy feat for him this go round in the General. The state is controlled top to bottom by the GOP so the Rats won’t have anywhere the same help they had with Fast Eddie Rendell running things. There machine doesn’t exist anymore.


12 posted on 02/18/2012 5:48:42 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

I know things get confusing due to polls, msm, dem lies.

Still, I voted in a local fire commisioner election in a blue state today, in the few minutes I was there people were making anti Obama comments and saying they’ll be back to vote in November.

I have to believe the swing voters who elected Obama are now angry and scared.


13 posted on 02/18/2012 5:51:24 PM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: Mountain Mary

Wisconsin also did major shifts towards republicans since 2008-we’ll be watching the recall effort and pray Gov Walker gets to keep his job! Those Union thugs are a nightmare and need squashing!


14 posted on 02/18/2012 5:51:36 PM PST by princess leah
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To: Clintonfatigued

This is not a map, however it contains a lot of good info-

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P12/ccad.phtml


15 posted on 02/18/2012 5:53:23 PM PST by matthew fuller (Daniel Hannan is a better "American Citizen" than any Democrat and many Republicans.)
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To: cripplecreek

Count Wisconsin republican. Bank on it.


16 posted on 02/18/2012 5:57:04 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Here is a map-

http://www.gallup.com/poll/125066/State-States.aspx


17 posted on 02/18/2012 5:58:10 PM PST by matthew fuller (Daniel Hannan is a better "American Citizen" than any Democrat and many Republicans.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Thanks for the info. I have some family there and in Virginia and they say it’s going to be really tough for Barry to win no matter what the poles may say. Some local folks who moved here from Ohio say the same thing about Ohio.


18 posted on 02/18/2012 6:02:46 PM PST by Rashputin
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To: Rashputin

poles??

how about, polls??


19 posted on 02/18/2012 6:03:42 PM PST by Rashputin
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To: Clintonfatigued

“Iowa is the Vermont of the midwest and I expect Obama to win it”

Can you explain to me why Iowa voted for Obama (and is likely to again)?

I always thought rural areas like alot of Iowa was populated with conservative, family people.


20 posted on 02/18/2012 6:18:34 PM PST by webstersII
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To: Rashputin

I dunno, I’m kinda partial to Kiolbassa.


21 posted on 02/18/2012 6:24:49 PM PST by txhurl
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To: webstersII

Can you explain to me why Iowa voted for Obama (and is likely to again)?


Because Iowans vote their interests, and ethanol subsidies and requirements at gas stations and flexfuel in auto production is big. That’s how Santorum won the caucus.


22 posted on 02/18/2012 6:29:21 PM PST by txhurl
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To: txhurl

I have noticed socially conservative pols do well in the Iowa caucus: Huckabee and Pat Robertson, for instance.


23 posted on 02/18/2012 6:33:38 PM PST by scrabblehack
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To: Clintonfatigued

Same map + N.C., Virginia and Ohio go GOP. 270 right there.

Nevada, Iowa and maybe a few others will be bonus balls.

But 9 months is an eternity in politics.


24 posted on 02/18/2012 6:33:59 PM PST by SnuffaBolshevik (In a tornado, even turkeys can fly.)
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To: princess leah

The midwest is a major political fault zone these days and some major moves have been made. Wisconsin, Indiana, Ohio, and Michigan have had some major union fights and some big wins. The union fight in Michigan hasn’t been as loud but we have picked up some wins and now a conservative UAW group has appeared over the horizon and is fighting along with us.


25 posted on 02/18/2012 6:36:28 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: txhurl

Thanks for the info. I was really wondering.


26 posted on 02/18/2012 6:40:19 PM PST by webstersII
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To: txhurl
"I dunno, I’m kinda partial to Kiolbassa."

LOL. I have to agree with you on that.

27 posted on 02/18/2012 6:42:58 PM PST by Rashputin
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To: txhurl

Every member and former member of congress in the race has supported ethanol subsidies at some point. If you listen to Gingrich explain his environmental solutions agency, he still supports the subsidies.

This is only one source I grabbed but I encourage you to look for more if you wish.

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/12/gingrich-backed-by-ethanol-lobby-supports-subsidy.php

I’m not beating up on Gingrich over this because he’s hardly the only guilty party here.


28 posted on 02/18/2012 6:48:10 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Rashputin

bttt

About half of these ‘tossup’s have been leaning our way.


29 posted on 02/18/2012 6:50:09 PM PST by txhurl
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To: Clintonfatigued

Great stuff - thanks!

Question: How can New Mexico elect Gov Martinez and be considered Dem. I might understand a toss-up, but Dem??


30 posted on 02/18/2012 7:15:56 PM PST by Eccl 10:2
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To: Rashputin

I think that map is wrong on Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Virginia.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

And although the DNC convention will be here, I think NC will be red also. Our Dem Governor Perdue announced recently in a surprise she will not seek re-election.

Although somewhat RINO, Republicans have good depth, credibility, and presence here. Former Charlotte Mayor Pat McCrory (R) will run for governor and likely win.

I would have to believe NC will be a lean Red.


31 posted on 02/18/2012 7:25:24 PM PST by Eccl 10:2
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Clintonfatigued.


32 posted on 02/18/2012 7:26:42 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: Rashputin

There was an interview with Axlerod after the ‘08 election where he summed up the Obummer win in VA. He said that they focused on one Northern VA area where they knew they could turn enough moderates out to win the state. A mathematics game. That game will not work this time. Moderates have left this idiot in droves just like the White Catholic and union vote is leaving him in PA. Some tricks can be played only one time as Karl Rove can attest to.


33 posted on 02/18/2012 7:41:13 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Mountain Mary

Obama ran better than expected in Arizona. His campaign believes that only home state loyalty to McCain put it in the Republican column, so they will campaign vigorously to win it this year. IMHO, Republicans have an edge, but it could go either way.


34 posted on 02/18/2012 8:29:06 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (A chameleon belongs in a pet store, not the White House)
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To: Eccl 10:2

” How can New Mexico elect Gov Martinez and be considered Dem. I might understand a toss-up, but Dem??”

Susana Martinez benefitted from the massive unpopularity of the previous Governor, scandal-tainted Bill Richardson, and her opponent was his lieutenant governor.


35 posted on 02/18/2012 9:27:52 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (A chameleon belongs in a pet store, not the White House)
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To: Clintonfatigued

I meant to ask about Mittens vs Santorum’s chances in Az.


36 posted on 02/18/2012 9:51:38 PM PST by Mountain Mary (Freedom is at stake in this election. Rick Santorum)
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To: Mountain Mary

I think that Mittens is the favorite. The state has a significant Mormon population as well as a number of white-collar workers and entrepreneurs who may like his business background.


37 posted on 02/18/2012 9:55:25 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (A chameleon belongs in a pet store, not the White House)
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To: Clintonfatigued

That’s what I thought..If Az and Mi’s primaries weren’t on the same day, a Santorum win in Mi.might have influenced Mittens vote totals in Az.


38 posted on 02/18/2012 10:03:49 PM PST by Mountain Mary (Freedom is at stake in this election. Rick Santorum)
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To: cripplecreek

You make intersting points on Michigan. Outstate Michigan showed TEA Party sentiment in 2010. But Michigan is still dominated by Detroit and its close-in suburbs. There are also other liberal bastions to be considered (Flint, Bay City, Lansing), as well as increasingly Muslim Dearborn.


39 posted on 02/19/2012 12:11:59 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (A chameleon belongs in a pet store, not the White House)
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To: Clintonfatigued; Mountain Mary; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj
His campaign believes that only home state loyalty to McCain put it in the Republican column,

Then his campaign rides the short bus. It would have been a little closer without McCain but still a GOP win. And even if he wins reelection this year it will be much closer than his easy win in 2008. Arizona is not in play unless for some reason Obama wins a landslide (in which case it doesn't matter anyway).

40 posted on 02/20/2012 5:29:28 PM PST by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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