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I Donít Want to Date a Republican!
The Jewish Journal of Los Angeles ^ | March 23, 2012 | Tamara Shayne Kagel

Posted on 03/23/2012 7:43:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

As a lifelong Democrat, I never thought I would be in this place. I never thought I would have to confront this dreaded unforeseen fear - the terror that is for me, dating a Republican. I don’t even know very many Republicans. But it turns out, I’m not alone. Outside of Washington D.C., the entire country is pretty segregated when it comes to political parties. According to dating website, seven out of ten people are in a relationship with someone of the same political persuasion. I grew up knowing very few Republicans and the rare ones I did know got made fun behind their backs, be it children or adults. I know there were some Republicans at my college because there was a “College Republicans” group on campus but this was the Bushy era and the conservatives who were smart enough to get into my university were too smart to be vocal defenders of the Dick Cheney puppet show that was the aughts. I’ve been living in Los Angeles ever since in the type of place where at the moment President Obama was pronounced the winner of his race, we threw open our windows and whooped and shrieked out into the streets till an impromptu parade erupted and bars served free drinks. I cried. I’ve worked for the Democratic Party, interned for a Democratic Congressman and Senator. And even though I went to a more conservative law school, there were enough liberals on campus that if you included the faculty, we could flock together so that I rarely interacted with those others who met with our derision.

So when I tell you I never thought I would date a Republican, it’s not because I really contemplated it and made a specific decision. It’s because as long as I didn’t drive to Orange County, my chances of actually running into one felt slim to none. We live in a birds-of-a-feather type of country. So how did I get to here? How did I come to date a man who told me he “liked a lot of Mitt Romney’s ideas” and that he thought John Kerry wasn’t really a war hero and that cap and trade is a terrible system. At first I didn’t think it would be a big issue. I fell in love with someone who has many similar interests and a big generous heart and when he told me he was an Independent I thought that was just something moderate Democrats said when being pretentious about how non-conformist they are. I didn’t realize I was dating someone who would spend every single Tuesday night glued to Wolf Blitzer’s analysis of another Republican primary. And to be frank, at this point, it’s making me freak out. I get mad at him just thinking about our past political discussions. I can’t date a Republican! What was I thinking? What if I have little Republican babies?

Naturally, he doesn’t think it’s a big deal. He keeps saying we can always find common ground. But I find myself angry with him for things that I expect to take for granted. He admitted to me that the word “liberal” for him had a bad connotation and that the word “conservative” did not. It’s hard to blame him when this is a common phenomena in our country now so that only 20% of the population identifies as liberal while 40% is willing to identify as conservative. I tell him this is a direct result of the vitriol that Fox News and Rush Limbough and Glen Beck have injected into our discourse and he shouldn’t buy into their demonizing of the left. But for my boyfriend, “liberal” means big government inefficiency. I’m normally a calm person, but when he said this, I was close to flipping out. How could he buy into all that? He’s a smart person, he reads reputable news sources. And yet, I continually find myself mad at him for buying into conservative propaganda.

Everyone always points to Mary Matalin and James Carville as shining examples of a couple with different political beliefs and a stable marriage. But honestly, have you seen them bicker on tv? I love watching them but I don’t want to fight like that in my home. I want my home to be a place of tranquility and calm and little social justice fighters playing pin your favorite president on the blue donkey.

Another burgeoning concern is that I’m starting to feel like I always have to watch what I say. Yes, I know there are many intelligent Republicans out there and if the party was made up of just David Frums and Christopher Buckleys or even Mitt Romneys, they’d be a reasonable moderate party that I have an intellectual disagreement with and there wouldn’t be anything to make fun of. But for now, there are a lot of crazy extremist kooks running the Republican party and when you get into Santorum territory and Palin country, I want the freedom to openly mock and deride in a forum where I don’t have to worry about offending someone. Is that so wrong? I’m sick of back-peddling every time I accidentally call them teabaggers.

Months ago, we got to talking about Ron Paul, or rather, my boyfriend got to telling me all about him. Although, we don’t disagree that much on social issues, we disagree quite a bit about how influential social issues should be when it comes to casting a ballot, so we started to really get into it. At one point, I said that certain individual rights and liberties should be the most important issue and I was disappointed in my boyfriend because he was willing to forgo those liberties in order to “make a buck.” He was offended and hurt. Admittedly, I went too far and I believe he is compassionate for those less fortunate and I know he doesn’t think he’s sacrificing civil rights for money. But I was making an impassioned argument and this is how liberals talk when we’re amongst friends. To stay in my relationship, I must resolve myself somewhat to being more careful in my language now when talking about fiscal conservatives but in so doing, is that the best decision for a healthy relationship? No one wants to have to walk on eggshells around their partner.

Last week, I went over to my boyfriend’s to watch the HBO docudrama Game Change about Palin’s Vice Presidential bid over some wine and take-out. When it was over, I felt bad for John McCain, but outraged at all the doltish hicks who were venerating this ignorant backwards woman who reveled in her lack of knowledge. My boyfriend on the other hand, said he felt bad for her.

How can you feel bad for her? I was shocked. Why is it always the Republican party that nominates idiots? Joe the Plumber, Christine O’Donnell. Democrats would never allow someone who didn’t understand what the “fed” was to run for city councilman let alone the Vice-Presidency.

How much do you really know about what the Fed does? He shot back.

I almost lost it. In that moment, he was impugning my knowledge and at the same time defending Sarah Palin. I was livid. How can I build my life with someone who defends Sarah Palin and thinks “liberal” is a dirty word? We went back and forth for a while with me spouting off economic knowledge and him keeping my rhetoric in check. But I went to bed angry that night.

I know we’re not supposed to try to change our significant others, but I can’t help but hope that I might be able to make a tried and true blue Democrat out of him. It’s worked somewhat so far, as I’ve been able to convince him that John Kerry really was a war hero and that Mitt Romney has backtracked on climate change. And maybe I am better off calling them teapartyers and aside from adjusting interest rates I don’t really know that much about the Fed. Congress recently passed the first Bi-partisan piece of legislation in years so if they can do it, surely two people who love each other and share many of the same values can find common ground as well. Now, if I could only get him to start watching Bill Maher with me…


TOPICS: California; Issues; Parties
KEYWORDS: california; palin; romney; teaparty
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
How did I come to date a man who told me he “liked a lot of Mitt Romney’s ideas”.....

See he's not really a conservative after all.

41 posted on 03/23/2012 8:09:18 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Romney just makes me tired all over.)
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To: ottbmare

My thoughts exactly. She is either a Rush Dittohead or a complete blithering idiot.


42 posted on 03/23/2012 8:10:06 PM PDT by richardtavor
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To: kcvl
Easy tag. Just say how much you love Obama, how Republicans are stupid, and gosh you've lost weight. (For now).

Come back in 10 years and see how "gorgeous" she once was.

43 posted on 03/23/2012 8:11:04 PM PDT by boop (I hate hippies and dopeheads. Just hate them. ...Ernest Borgnine)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As usual, no substance. Trite, superficial and narrow minded. Typical Leftist.


44 posted on 03/23/2012 8:11:31 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot.)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

Ask the lib to explain their co-travelers - Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Min, Castro, Noriega, Chavez. And lib support of slavery here in the USA!


45 posted on 03/23/2012 8:11:44 PM PDT by MtnClimber (Orchestrated failure will be the excuse for government take over.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
How revealing.

No kidding! I converted an old girlfriend and my current one to the conservative side.

46 posted on 03/23/2012 8:11:44 PM PDT by MountainDad (Support your local Militia)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Read the rest of her stuff....she’s a pathetic freak.


47 posted on 03/23/2012 8:13:12 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Burning the Quran is a waste of perfectly good fire.)
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To: boop

Case in point:

The blond from Top Gun.

No offense intended. But she seems these days ... unhappy.


48 posted on 03/23/2012 8:14:06 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("The door is open" PALIN 2012)
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To: ottbmare

My thoughts exactly. She is either a Rush Dittohead or a complete blithering idiot.


49 posted on 03/23/2012 8:15:13 PM PDT by richardtavor
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To: richardtavor

Care to explain please, what’s wrong with being a “Rush Dittohead”?

TIA.


50 posted on 03/23/2012 8:16:29 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("The door is open" PALIN 2012)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wouldn’t date this crazy moonbat broad if she were the last woman on Earth.

If the boyfriend had a lick of sense he’d kick her to the curb.


51 posted on 03/23/2012 8:17:18 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (I'm NOT smitten' with Mittens)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

With Rat women (and men too) you can never be sure “where they’ve been”.Add to that their defective sense of decency and lack of conscience and I’d never be desperate enough to want to get within 100 feet of any of them.


52 posted on 03/23/2012 8:18:51 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter Is No Longer The Worst President To Have Served In My Lifetime.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
I was surprised (not) that the Top Gun lead woman is a lesbian.

I watched that movie a couple of nights ago. It was weird seeing a gay man trying to pickup a gay woman in the bathroom. (not that there's anything wrong with that!)

53 posted on 03/23/2012 8:19:23 PM PDT by boop (I hate hippies and dopeheads. Just hate them. ...Ernest Borgnine)
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To: SandyInSeattle
What a freaking psycho. Reading this, I imagine her sitting on a barstool, twirling her Cosmo by the stem and yammering up into the air. The bartender and everyone around her have completely tuned her out as she babbles "Like, sos" and "well, anyways" and "(eye roll) whatevers" at lightning speed. He needs to dump her asap, but I feel sorry for him. There's not much to choose from for a conservative in Los Angeles. (And he doesn't even sound all that conservative to me.)

Politics is just another word for "values." Know someone's politics and you know their values. Date accordingly.

54 posted on 03/23/2012 8:19:44 PM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Please, lady, get it printed on T-shirts and enough that you have one for every day of the week. Wear them in public. Save some guy the trouble...

I don't care how nice the package is wrapped, if it's full of crap, it's full of crap.

55 posted on 03/23/2012 8:22:14 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: boop

LOL.

Laughing out loud right now.

Classic scene, my nominee for one of the best ever. I really, really liked that line “so I can make an even bigger mistake with a younger guy?”

Great movie.

Liberals suck tho.


56 posted on 03/23/2012 8:22:17 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("The door is open" PALIN 2012)
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To: ottbmare
I’m not sure—is this supposed to be satire? It’s so hard to tell with liberals.

She "writes" a blog that reads like a poor, low budget daytime soap opera, and whines about everything imaginable. Catty, petty, vapid and absurd.

And she's a lawyer, in Kalefornia.

57 posted on 03/23/2012 8:22:57 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
How revealing.

I have a better understanding of genetic bottlenecks after reading that.
58 posted on 03/23/2012 8:29:36 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I take it that she’s the type of girl that won’t go hunting or fishing with me, and her idea of hot sex is putting polish on her finger nails in bed while doing it? Most of the women I knew growing up who were liberals were just not that attractive and always had an ax to grind. Apparently nothing changed.


59 posted on 03/23/2012 8:30:30 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft ( WHO WE ELECT AS PRESIDENT IS NOT AS IMPORTANT AS WHO THEY APPOINT.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Nothing. I am one also. My point was that either she was a Rush supporter writing satire, or a stupid person....


60 posted on 03/23/2012 8:35:32 PM PDT by richardtavor
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