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Third parties a dud in 2012
The Examiner ^ | July 6, 2012 | Michael McGuire

Posted on 07/06/2012 6:08:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Voter dissatisfaction or not, there is very little support this year for third party presidential candidates.

In a Gallup Poll released Friday that includes three minor-party candidates, Barack Obama received 47 percent support, Mitt Romney 40, Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson 3, Green candidate Jill Stein 1 and Constitution Party candidate Virgil Goode less than 1.

Two percent of voters said they favor U.S. Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX), 1 percent mentioned someone else, 2 percent had no opinion and 5 percent said they will not vote.

Voter dissatisfaction or not, there is very little support this year for third party presidential candidates.

In a Gallup Poll released Friday that includes three minor-party candidates, Barack Obama received 47 percent support, Mitt Romney 40, Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson 3, Green candidate Jill Stein 1 and Constitution Party candidate Virgil Goode less than 1.

Two percent of voters said they favor U.S. Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX), 1 percent mentioned someone else, 2 percent had no opinion and 5 percent said they will not vote.

If that is bad news for minor-party candidates, it will get worse for them as the campaign continues, if historical trends continue...

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TOPICS: Campaign News; Parties; Polls; State and Local
KEYWORDS: obama; polls; romney; ronpaul; thirdparties; thirdparty
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Not all people are as “plugged” in to politics as we are.

Myth won the votes in most states. He got the 1145 electoral votes...in one way or another.

I would love to see a huge upset at the convention, but I don’t see it as a happening thing.

Doesn’t mean we can’t ultimately prevail.


51 posted on 07/06/2012 11:47:54 PM PDT by berdie
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To: berdie; BillyBoy; EternalVigilance; BlackElk; Impy; Diogenesis

That was a fixed race from the get-go. What a farce. I thought 2008 was a joke, but this one took the cake. The party establishment wants so badly to commit suicide. When they do, they’ll finally have the one-party state they’ve worked so hard for... the Big Gubmint Marxist-Socialist Combine. Just like in Illinois and Massachusetts and on and on...


52 posted on 07/06/2012 11:52:41 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Haven’t we had this conversation before ?

Quite possibly. I'm too lazy to google at the moment.

Making stupid comments won’t help your argument, but they sure do prove mine.

The fact remains, if you don't vote for the GOP nominee, it'll be your fault if Chief Justice Johnny swears in the Won for the third time next January.

53 posted on 07/06/2012 11:52:49 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

Refreshing your memory...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2890177/replies?c=11


54 posted on 07/06/2012 11:54:00 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Forgot to ping you to this thread.


55 posted on 07/07/2012 12:02:39 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Wow! That is quite a ping!

I looked back and none of these people have been on this thread.

My conversation has been with you. (If you get my drift.)


56 posted on 07/07/2012 12:05:41 AM PDT by berdie
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Refreshing your memory...

Which is why I will never cast a vote for either Zero or his vanilla twin Willard. No favorable result comes of voting for either abomination.

Willard's a squish, but he is not even remotely in the same class as Obama.

Fact is, if the election goes Willard's way, it's likely the House and Senate will be Republican.

If not, then the opposite. Another four years for the Traitor in Chief to mold the USA to his vision. Kiss it good bye. May it go the way of the USSR.

On the other hand, with a solid GOP victory (inconceivable unless it includes the White House), there is hope. Willard's good at etching — that's why he has a nine digit net worth. What he's not so good at is choosing what sketch to etch. That's where the House and Senate come in.

57 posted on 07/07/2012 12:08:45 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: fieldmarshaldj

And just so you don’t think I’m running off in “fear” of your ping...It is very late, I have to work tomorrow.

But I’ll be back tomorrow.

I’m just very disappointed you didn’t fight your own battle.

I always considered you to be a stand up dude/dudette.

Oh, well.


58 posted on 07/07/2012 12:32:03 AM PDT by berdie
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To: Kazan

So you’re voting for Obama for the good of conservatism.

Yep.


59 posted on 07/07/2012 3:48:04 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: cynwoody

No, it will be mitt romney’s fault. He is the candidate and he needs to win the support of people to vote for him. If he cannot convince Conservatives that their vote should go to him... then he has not earned that vote and he is not automatically deserving of those votes. There are other names on the ballot and they are not obama. Anybody but obama... means ANYBODY but obama. A vote is a right... and no one has the right to demand that vote because they want it... they have to earn it. My vote is not a welfare chit and it will not be given freely again.

LLS


60 posted on 07/07/2012 5:29:22 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Thanks pal.

LLS


61 posted on 07/07/2012 5:30:10 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

NINE! Heil Obama!


62 posted on 07/07/2012 7:27:03 AM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: D-fendr
So you’re voting for Obama for the good of conservatism.

No, I oppose both but realize Romney's election will do more harm to the Republican party, conservatism and the nation than Obama.

The damage done by Romney will last at least eight years and wipe out all the gains made by conservatives in 2010. Thinking that is a better outcome is completely moronic.

63 posted on 07/07/2012 10:49:31 AM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: berdie
Obama don't need no steenking Congress or Constitution. He will rule by EO

Then, it will up to the conservative majority in Congress and at the state level to impeach or stop him. But, if he does that, there will be such a backlash against the Democratic party, Republicans will have majorities not seen in decades.

64 posted on 07/07/2012 10:52:54 AM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This from a clown that was pawning his TV set to send money to Newt Gingrich, long after it was obvious he had no chance of winning the nomination? You don't live in realville, do you?
65 posted on 07/07/2012 11:17:47 AM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: Kazan

You have me mixed up with someone else, Mr. Newbie. Both TV sets belong to my wife (she won them in contests at work) so I couldn’t “pawn” them if I’d wanted to. Secondly, there are two major parties in the USA (as I’m sure you know, since you’re at one of their Chicago headquarters right now) and third parties are a waste of time & money.


66 posted on 07/07/2012 12:35:02 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (In honor of my late father, GunnerySgt/Commo Chief, USMC 1943-65)
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To: berdie

I ping people that might find this thread to be of interest.


67 posted on 07/07/2012 2:00:14 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: cynwoody

The House should stay Republican regardless, the Senate (at present) should narrowly flip. But as Kazan pointed out, Willard (if this nation is saddled with that fraud) will cost us both by 2014. It’s not too late to dump Willard and nominate a man of character and accomplishment like Scott Walker.


68 posted on 07/07/2012 2:03:58 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: LibLieSlayer

What is it with these Willardbots that shriek in terror when I dare add a name or two (or more) to the response box ?


69 posted on 07/07/2012 2:07:51 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We need a second party in this country, not the Socialist runoff in November.

Congrats, too, on your move to Dallas.

70 posted on 07/07/2012 2:09:44 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

What do they think that the semi colon exists for? ;-)

LLS


71 posted on 07/07/2012 2:58:56 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: Kazan

I like your optimistic nature.


72 posted on 07/07/2012 3:44:42 PM PDT by berdie
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Thank you for your reply. Pinging people to a thread is quite different than pinging people to a specific post. I apologize if I misunderstood your motive. Although we obviously do not agree with one another...it seemed we were having a civil discussion.

The truth of the matter is this, fieldmarshaldj, I really don’t care who you or anyone else on this board votes for. I won’t change your mind..you won’t change mine. I do enjoy an exchange of ideas.

Am I sick that Romney is the apparent nominee...you bet. If it were anybody but O that, has a good a chance of winning, I’d be marching right beside you. I fear O. If he is not the devil he definetely has him on speed dial. (dang, now I’ll have the religion forum on me...it’s just a joke folks).

The Repub party was not lost overnight. It won’t be reclaimed in a short two years. So for this election, if they put a can of spaghettios on the ticket, I’ll drag myself to vote for spaghettios. And I’ll continue to vote in the most conservative candidates I can for the House, Senate and at state and local levels.


73 posted on 07/07/2012 4:14:31 PM PDT by berdie
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To: berdie
I like your optimistic nature.

I am extremely hopeful Scott Walker or another conservative will be elected President in 2016 if Romney loses and that a sizable conservative majority in Congress will await him.

74 posted on 07/07/2012 4:19:21 PM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: berdie

I’ve spent over 6 years ringing alarm bells about Willard and the disaster he would be holding the “supreme” reins of power. I worked hard enlightening folks about him and derailing his candidacy (for which I thought would finally be dead and buried with 2008... only to see it rise like an unholy zombie). It is unimaginable that I would ever support him since I view him as even more dangerous than Zero. At least Zero doesn’t try to run as a Republican and maximize damage and dissension in the ranks as Willard is doing. Voting for one or the other, however, will not halt the disastrous course this country is on... removing both is the only option.

BTW, I would also vote for a can of Spaghetti-O’s if it was the nominee against Zero... but Willard ? Not a chance in hell. Spaghetti-O’s are harmless. Willard is a Mack Truck without brakes speeding down the side of a mountain.


75 posted on 07/07/2012 4:27:56 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: Kazan

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304141204577506881495497626.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop

There is no guarantee this link will work..I’m not good at this.

In the political world..2016 is a lifetime away.

Once again, I really like your optimism.


76 posted on 07/07/2012 4:37:06 PM PDT by berdie
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To: fieldmarshaldj

As I have already said...I am sick that we are faced with a lose-lose proposition.

You vote your conscience...I’ll vote mine.

Perhaps around...oh...2014, we’ll stumble upon one another on this site and compare notes.


77 posted on 07/07/2012 4:45:17 PM PDT by berdie
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To: berdie

...Unless the Mayan prediction comes true.


78 posted on 07/07/2012 5:03:09 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
It’s not too late to dump Willard and nominate a man of character and accomplishment like Scott Walker.

I'd be strongly in favor of that. But I don't see it happening.

79 posted on 07/07/2012 9:00:44 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Kazan

You’re not voting for Obama?

Either Romney or Obama will be the next president.

You think it better if it’s Obama than Romney.

So, why not act to effect the outcome you think is best?


80 posted on 07/07/2012 9:17:50 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
You think it better if it’s Obama than Romney.

Right, four of years of a lame duck Democrat faced with growing conservative opposition in Congress is better than eight years of a liberal Republican or another Democrat with a shrinking minority of Republicans in Congress.

I'd love to see you tell why that isn't true.

81 posted on 07/09/2012 10:46:03 AM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: Kazan

It isn’t true because four more years of the current regime is not acceptable. Not in foreign policy or domestic policy. The primary goal of this election is the removal of this regime from power.

E.g., Obamacare is fait accompli unless action is taken by congress and signed by president. That isn’t going to happen if Obama is re-elected.

Now, again: why don’t you vote for Obama if his re-election is the better than Romney’s election in your opinion?


82 posted on 07/09/2012 8:58:12 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; GOPsterinMA; AuH2ORepublican; randita; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; ...

Goode news for Glove, Goode is not (as of today, I don’t think time is up yet) on the ballot in his critical home state of VA (only 17 states so far) the only state I could see him making a dent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2012#Third_party_candidates

He is on TN ballot for you though DJ.


83 posted on 07/09/2012 10:31:07 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I agree. The Obamanation must go.


84 posted on 07/09/2012 10:43:24 PM PDT by MEG33 (O Lord, Guide Our Nation)
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To: D-fendr
It isn’t true because four more years of the current regime is not acceptable. Not in foreign policy or domestic policy.

A Romney Presidency that moves the country to the left with the votes of conservatives and results in Democrats taking back Congress and in the election of someone as bad as Obama is what isn't acceptable. That sets the country back at least eight years rather than just four.

Now, again: why don’t you vote for Obama if his re-election is the better than Romney’s election in your opinion?

Again, unlike you, I don't vote for liberals of either party. Some of us don't think voting for liberals does anything but advance liberalism. We're funny that way.

85 posted on 07/10/2012 11:33:44 AM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: Kazan

You maintain the objective in this campaign is NOT electing Romney - rather than removing the Obama regime from power.

Between keeping Obama in power and electing Romney, you choose keeping the current regime.

>>”I don’t vote for liberals of either party..”

Sorry, you already lost the moral high ground in this one.


86 posted on 07/10/2012 12:24:59 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Kazan
Here's 16 minutes of how we disagree:

Andrew Breitbart, CPAC 2012.

87 posted on 07/10/2012 12:28:40 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

How old are you 12?

You are supporting an Obama 2nd term since every vote cast against Romney is one less Obama needs to win since his base of communists are not going to desert him.


88 posted on 07/10/2012 12:32:54 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: D-fendr; Kazan
Not voting for Romney IS voting for Bambi.

It's very simple math, no third party candidate is going to get more than 1%, from the looks of things about half a dozen will get somewhere between 1/4% and 1/2%.

If you want Bambi for four more years, just vote for one of those irrelevant third parties and then continue to piss and moan and b*tch when Bambi wins again (it's what they really want to do anyway).

89 posted on 07/10/2012 12:37:38 PM PDT by Lakeshark (I don't care for Mitt, the alternative is unthinkable)
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To: Impy

Somebody said Goode was polling 5% in Va, but another story had 20 people total showing up for one of his events.


90 posted on 07/10/2012 12:39:16 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: GlockThe Vote

Why don’t you tell JimRob your opinion of those who don’t worship Willard and his Socialist agenda, n00b.


91 posted on 07/10/2012 3:13:33 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: Impy

Until the GOP wises up and dumps Zero’s paler twin from the ticket, I’ll be proud to cast a vote for Goode over the two evils.


92 posted on 07/10/2012 3:16:37 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I despise mittens, but I have utter hatred for Obama and he needs to go.

Big difference.

Millions more of people will be losing jobs if this monster is re-elected because businesses will simply not hire and will be closing down.

You ok w that chief?


93 posted on 07/10/2012 3:20:05 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GlockThe Vote

I’ve known Willard for 18 years, I was up in MA for the end part of his Senate run. The man is one of the biggest frauds and liars I’ve ever come across, and he is utterly dangerous and cannot be trusted with ANY office, period. He was a f***ing disaster as Governor and fled the state to get away from the mess he left. He has absolutely zero qualifications and accomplishments to hold the Presidency. He loathes Conservatives and Conservatism. Whatever that comes out of his mouth in the way of promises are nothing but lies. He views people as suckers and rubes to be manipulated. In other words, there is next to nothing to distinguish him from the current occupant of the White House.

This ABO argument is mindless. You’ve got to have the RIGHT person for the job to replace the current occupant or nothing will be changed (and indeed, we stand an excellent chance of losing everything we have gained under Zero’s watch in the way of Congress, Governorships, et al). How precisely do you think replacing one fiasco with another is going to resolve our nation’s problems ? Willard doesn’t care if he destroys the GOP in his lust for power, it’s just revenge for his daddy being denied the Presidency in 1968. Are you OK with that, chief ?


94 posted on 07/10/2012 3:36:36 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; GlockThe Vote

Another obamabot troll. Obama or nothing, the thrill is running down his leg.


95 posted on 07/10/2012 3:43:01 PM PDT by John D
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have been vehement in saying we have to replacew Mitt at the convention. replace him with a real conservative and start shopping now. I oppose Mitt for three reasons: 1).He is liberal. 2). If he is not liberal, he is willing to change his views for convenience and that is just as bad, 3). Obama has been preparing for him since 2008 and they have a load of ammo. The great Bear Bryan used to say that when you pass the ball, three things can happen and two of those are bad. (Incomplete and Interception). With Romney two things can happen:, 1). he wins, and 2). he loses. Both bad. If I have to hold my nose and vote for him, so be it, but I will feel a lot better if we put up a good fight at the convention with the possibility of coming out of it with a real conservative!!!!


96 posted on 07/10/2012 3:46:43 PM PDT by rem_mitchell
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To: Lakeshark
If you want Bambi for four more years, just vote for one of those irrelevant third parties and then continue to piss and moan and b*tch when Bambi wins again

The reverse is true, too, right? If Romney gets in and we have a repeat of the Bush Presidency or worse and end up losing Congress and White House again by 2016, you'll have no right to be piss, moan or bitch about Romney? You would have been warned about the consequences of putting a Republican with a liberal record and no principles in the White House.

97 posted on 07/10/2012 3:57:25 PM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: John D

Who are you talking to ?


98 posted on 07/10/2012 3:59:46 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: D-fendr
You maintain the objective in this campaign is NOT electing Romney - rather than removing the Obama regime from power.

Again, Mr. Chess Player, the objective is to position conservatism for victory in 2016, building a conservative majority in Congress, at the state level and putting someone like Scott Walker in the White House. That only path to victory in the next four years.

99 posted on 07/10/2012 4:00:08 PM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: nascarnation; randita; AuH2ORepublican

I saw an obviously biased pro-bama PPP poll showing Goode at 9% in VA (which is unrealistic, Bob Barr only got .73% in Georgia in 2008).

It doesn’t matter anyway if he’s not on the ballot.


100 posted on 07/10/2012 5:10:06 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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