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Michael Reagan: Dad Would Approve: Ryan is Romney's 'First Great Move'
Newsmax ^ | August 11, 2012 | Paul Scicchitano

Posted on 08/11/2012 2:57:39 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You might want to check the Constitution. Naturalized citizen has been in there for 235 years.

And answer my question. What does that this have to do with anything?

Are Jindal and Rubio worth 1/2 an American?

I’m sorry, but you’re sounding really idiotic - and bigoted.


21 posted on 08/11/2012 7:48:16 PM PDT by diamond6 (Check out: http://www.biblechristiansociety.com/home.php and learn about the faith.)
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Can somebody help diamond6? I’m tired.


22 posted on 08/11/2012 8:04:51 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: diamond6; 2ndDivisionVet

My father was born in the United States of America in the 1930s. His parents and grandparents came to the United States from Italy in 1905.

My father was not eligible to be President of the United States (not that he ever wanted to be) because his dad was not a citizen of the United States.

2ndDivisionVet is correct!


23 posted on 08/11/2012 8:05:25 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Correction: His dad was a citizen but not a NBC.


24 posted on 08/11/2012 8:07:27 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: tsowellfan

I didn’t say the parents weren’t eligible!

I said Marco Rubio and Bobbhy Jindal are!

He is not correct! They are both naturalized citizens, and that’s why they could be president or VP.


25 posted on 08/11/2012 8:13:42 PM PDT by diamond6 (Check out: http://www.biblechristiansociety.com/home.php and learn about the faith.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe you should take a citizen course. I’m sorry you’re so tired.

Again, answer the question!

Why are you denigrating Jindal and Rubio?

It’s a simple question.


26 posted on 08/11/2012 8:16:13 PM PDT by diamond6 (Check out: http://www.biblechristiansociety.com/home.php and learn about the faith.)
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To: diamond6

I was not talking about the parents. I was talking about the son of the parents.


27 posted on 08/11/2012 8:16:51 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: diamond6

Nobody’s “denigrating” Jindal and Rubio anymore than I “denigrated” my dad. The law is the law.


28 posted on 08/11/2012 8:18:47 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: tsowellfan

So am I.

Am I speaking another language?

He said that Marco and Bobby are not natural born citizens. That’s false!


29 posted on 08/11/2012 8:21:06 PM PDT by diamond6 (Check out: http://www.biblechristiansociety.com/home.php and learn about the faith.)
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To: diamond6

I started my “citizen course” on June 12, 1978 at Basic Combat Training, Company C, 1st Battalion, 3rd Brigade, Fort Leonard Wood, Missouri. Good enough for you?


30 posted on 08/11/2012 8:39:13 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
So under your reasoning the first 10 presidents or so were not constitutionally eligible to be president because their parents were born citizens of another country?

I think your contorting the term natural born citizen just a tad.

31 posted on 08/11/2012 8:41:07 PM PDT by Palin_Rubio2012
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So no one reads the constitution anymore? They were grandfathered in:

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

32 posted on 08/11/2012 8:45:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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Even though Senator Rubio is not a natural born citizen? Neither is Governor Jindhal, for that matter.

Personally, I'm shocked. I'm guessing that the powers that be don't think the NBC issue is important enough to have to provide cover to Hussein this election.

They are probably right, because Mitt sure isn't going to say anything.

33 posted on 08/11/2012 8:53:18 PM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We read the Constitution. We question your ability to define “natural born citizen.”

I guess I didn’t learn anything from my conservative Constitutional Law professor in law school, or my U.S. History teacher in high school

Here’s what the 14th amendment says about who is a citizen: “All persons born or naturalized into the United States and subject to the juridiction thereof, are citizens of hte United States and other State in which they reside.”

Translation: If you are born in this country, you are automatically a citizen. That is, a “natural born citizen”. Capiche?

If that wasn’t the case, how could Jindal or Rubio even be considered for Vice President, since they would not be able to be President?

It is true that their parents were not “natural born citizens”. In fact, I don’t know if they were ever made citizens. That has no impact on Bobby or Marco are not natural born citizens.

So, again. What relevance does this have to anything? Are you assuming Bobby and Marco couldn’t be President? Or are they less than citizens who’s parents have been here longer?


34 posted on 08/11/2012 8:53:28 PM PDT by diamond6 (Check out: http://www.biblechristiansociety.com/home.php and learn about the faith.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Can somebody help diamond6? I’m tired.

I would, but I don't care enough to. Anyone reading this site for any length of time would have seen the facts by now on multiple occations.  Facts don't mean anything if you're not willing to learn.

35 posted on 08/11/2012 8:58:29 PM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Correction: The parents status has no impact on Bobby and Marco’s becoming “natural born citizens”.


36 posted on 08/11/2012 8:58:35 PM PDT by diamond6 (Check out: http://www.biblechristiansociety.com/home.php and learn about the faith.)
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To: zeugma

I guess the 14th Amendment means nothing. Read post above.


37 posted on 08/11/2012 8:59:42 PM PDT by diamond6 (Check out: http://www.biblechristiansociety.com/home.php and learn about the faith.)
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Even though Senator Rubio is not a natural born citizen? Neither is Governor Jindhal, for that matter.

Well, as we all are painfully aware, it certainly never stopped the Kenyan Marxist or his goosestepping party.

38 posted on 08/11/2012 9:01:20 PM PDT by Marathoner (Palin/West 2012. Yes, I'm dreaming but as Pete said to Rudy, "Dreams are what make life tolerable.")
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To: diamond6

How can a lawyer get “naturalized” and “natural born” mixed up? I doubt that I’ve ever been inside a law school, but I get that. Yes, they might be “citizens” but no, they are NOT natural born citizens. Sen. Rubio and Gov. Jindahl are ineligible because their parents were not US citizens at the time of their birth. We’ve been over and over and over this for four years.


39 posted on 08/11/2012 9:05:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: diamond6

You are totally confused -
NATURAL BORN CITIZEN - born on US soil to US citizen parentS.
NOTE - parentS have to be US citizens at time of the child’s birth in USA - parents can be natural born citizens or naturalized citizens.
If 1 or both parents is not US citizen at time of the child’s birth in USA, then the child is NOT a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN and cannot be the president or VP.

Natural born citizen is citizen by ‘nature’ (i.e. by place and by parentage). No law can make someone a natural born citizen.
Natural born citizen has UNdivided loyalty to USA.
Obama, Rubio, Jindal, with non-US citizen parent(s), are dual citizens (USA and Kenya, USA and Cuban, USA and India) and have divided loyalty.

NATURALIZED CITIZEN - some one who becomes a US citizen by law - some one who was born outside USA to non-USA parents can be ‘naturalized’ in USA to be a Naturalized US citizen.
Naturalized citizens are NOT natural born citizens, and cannot be the president or VP.

This is in the US constitution. This is NOT about disparaging the parents.


40 posted on 08/11/2012 9:07:05 PM PDT by chrisnj
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