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Conservatives that can't vote for Romney VANITY

Posted on 11/02/2012 11:06:00 AM PDT by birdsman

I know that some freepers are reluctant to vote for Romney because he's not conservative enough. Few of us wanted him to be the Republican nominee, and for good reason. This is why I'm voting Libertarian this year. I know the mantra, a vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for Obama, but that's not true in deep blue states like mine (New York). I propose that conservatives in deep blue states agree to vote 3rd party. In return, conservatives in toss up states can hold their noses while voting for Romney.


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To: Psalm 144
For the first time since 1976 I will pass on the top of the ticket. I will go vote down ticket though.

Obama and the rest of the democrats thank you.  Don't forget to pick up your complimentary Obama-Phone© on the way out of the voting booth where you just indirectly voted for the Barack Hussein Obama.

51 posted on 11/02/2012 11:27:56 AM PDT by softwarecreator
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To: tennmountainman; Birdman

You are right, but after hearing about Romney’s successes and amazing charitable acts (for which he is EXCRUCIATINGLY humble) I am now a Romney supporter.

And I will vote for him without holding my nose.

I think he knows how to fix things.

I WAS 100% AGAINST HIM but the primaries are over

The time to make your protest vote is IN THE PRIMARIES - where your vote is worth 10 times as much because usually only 10% of the eligible voters vote.


52 posted on 11/02/2012 11:28:04 AM PDT by Mr. K (What The World would hate more than the USA in charge is the USA NOT in charge")
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To: freeangel

“I’m voting for Ryan, I’m voting for Ryan, I’m voting for Ryan. This is my mantra so I don’t have to think about mittens too much while I’m voting AGAINST obama.”

Me too. Same way I voted for Palin. See my tagline.


53 posted on 11/02/2012 11:28:27 AM PDT by Lou Budvis (I'm voting AB0/RYAN)
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To: birdsman
My already-written response: An "Anybody But Romney" Voter Endorses Romney (VANITY)
54 posted on 11/02/2012 11:28:42 AM PDT by kevkrom (If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs...)
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To: birdsman

In a binary race like this one, any vote other than for the R is inexcusable and is a stupid decision.

Blue state or not, it is an act of ignorance and foolishness.


55 posted on 11/02/2012 11:29:07 AM PDT by soycd
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To: crosslink

Which is cancelled out by 10 more Catholics voting for Obama.


56 posted on 11/02/2012 11:29:47 AM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard
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To: birdsman

looking for others to unstop your sewer while you remain pure? I’m enthusiastic about this election because of the prospect of getting rid of obama. New York votes still count in the popular vote and he needs to be beaten badly enough to dampen there efforts at challenges etc. but if you believe that your and other libertarian votes are inconsequential, stand firm a revel in your irrevelance.


57 posted on 11/02/2012 11:29:54 AM PDT by duffee (Romney 2012, NEWT 2016)
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To: samadams2000
your best choice is to go get somebody who usually doesn't vote to go vote this time ~ there are 90 million eligible adult Americans who regularly don't vote so you have a lot of choice.

Harrasing people with some interest in politics to vote is a whole different game than finding new voters.

BTW, the name of the game is turnout ~ and if you let Democrats show up to vote you are losing that game. They are not likely to vote for a Republican anyway.

You could go drive on the sidewalk in a Democrat part of town and make a real impact on the race.

58 posted on 11/02/2012 11:31:00 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: phillyfanatic

“no Libertarian will win any office”

I cannot understand to save my life this motive to vote on the winning side. It can’t possibly make any difference considering a single vote any other way cancels yours out, and though perhaps some dog catcher race came down to a one-vote margin, no federal official that I know of has ever won or lost by a single vote. And we all know, anyway, that lib’s would never, ever let it be decided by a single vote. So why try to disused any single voter?

I know, because it’s always the old switcheroo. You’re always thinking in terms of masses of votesml. But thus guy is not a mass. He’s one person. Despite what you civics class taught in junior high individual votes don’t matter. Which I guess means voting your conscience doesn’t matter, either. Except insofar as it matters to your conscience.


59 posted on 11/02/2012 11:31:18 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: freeangel

My plan right now is to vote for Ryan as well, most likely by write in. In Tennessee, it will not change the outcome. There are few states that I believe this can be said for this cycle.


60 posted on 11/02/2012 11:32:36 AM PDT by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: birdsman

If it was a regular GOP v DEM election I’d say go for it.

However we DO NOT want a nightmare scenario where Obama gets the popular vote and Romney gets the electoral. We understand how that works and would accept it if it were the other way around but the Obama zombies would absolutely go into smash and burn mode if that were to happen.

Bush v Gore 2000 we still hear how Bush stole the election which we all know is a crock of crap but the libs don’t care. That happens again and there will be blood in the streets, can almost guarantee it.

So even if you’re in a heavy blue or heavy red State cast a Romney vote against Obama cause we have to win both popular and electoral to say without a doubt Obama lost.


61 posted on 11/02/2012 11:32:58 AM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: birdsman

That’s a good one.

I was at my son’s football tourney with all of the mothers and fathers and coaches letting our hair down last Saturday and of the 50 some adults gathered there, there was only one who was NOT completely excited to vote for Mitt or against Obama. That one said it was either Johnson or Obama for him. I laughed and laughed and kept telling him what a GREAT idea it was to vote for Johnson. This is Wisconsin and we all live in the SanFran of the Midwest - Madison - where you can expect the lost and befuddled Obama and his minstrel Springsteen will try to energize the vote right to the bitter end. The words used to describe Obama from the crowd couldn’t be printed here.


62 posted on 11/02/2012 11:33:06 AM PDT by februus
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

“Which is cancelled out by 10 more Catholics voting for Obama”

Have you listened to Catholic radio lately? They have made it clear that it is your obligation to vote for life.

I am not Catholic but my friends that are who lean to the left HATE OBAMA THIS TIME. It will be the difference in many states.


63 posted on 11/02/2012 11:33:06 AM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: birdsman

“Few of us wanted him to be the Republican nominee, and for good reason. This is why I’m voting Libertarian this year.”

Like pissing in a dark pair of wool pants. It’ll feel nice and warm for a while and no one would notice, but after a bit it’ll stink and be real uncomfortable... especially with Obama rubbing his middle finger on his forehead or laying it on the side of his nose while taking the oath. It’ll be cold.


64 posted on 11/02/2012 11:33:25 AM PDT by jessduntno ("Socialism only works...in Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they have it." - RR)
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To: Lou Budvis

hmm ~ do you know what Mormons believe about Catholics?


65 posted on 11/02/2012 11:33:45 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: LibFreeUSA

“This election is more than just about ONE PERSON”

Yes, and one person cannot possibly decide the election, which is how the voting system was designed. So why try and co.Vince one person to vote your way? It’s ridiculous.


66 posted on 11/02/2012 11:35:04 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: nuconvert
Since the hurricane, NY may not be the deep blue state it was.

I think we've got a better chance at winning Jersey.

67 posted on 11/02/2012 11:36:36 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: birdsman

It’s called ‘posturing’. Carry on.


68 posted on 11/02/2012 11:36:47 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: birdsman

Haughty and selfish in the extreme.


69 posted on 11/02/2012 11:37:30 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: birdsman

“In return, conservatives in toss up states can hold their noses ............”

Thank you for offering a deal. I had not been aware that this was a hostage/ransom/negotiation situation. I’ll also remind you that we don’t need your permission to hold our noses or do anything else. Thank you for offering it; it’s a magnanimous gesture, no doubt. But we don’t need it now, nor will we ever.


70 posted on 11/02/2012 11:37:33 AM PDT by definitelynotaliberal (Nov. 6, 2012 - And the correct answer is no one is entitled to a bailout.)
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To: crosslink

So, how does a Roman Catholic vote for life except by NOT voting for President at all?


71 posted on 11/02/2012 11:37:46 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: TommyC1
It could be that Romney takes some surprise blue states.

I'm in MA and am looking forward to MA turning Red this time around. People are p!$$ed off and even a lot of Dems here are voting Romney. They see him as closer to what they remember the Democrat party used to be and are fed up with the Liberalism rampant in their party. It could be a huge surprise here.

Personally, I can't stand Romney. But I'm voting for him. I would go to bat for him in a pinch because he's a decent guy. I wouldn't p!$$ on Obama if he were on fire. The sooner that Marxist POS leaves this mortal coil, the better.

72 posted on 11/02/2012 11:38:37 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts ("The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left." Ecclesiastes 1)
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To: oh8eleven

Is Johnson’s running well enough in NM to tip that state to Obama, or is the state just locked up for Obama any way?


73 posted on 11/02/2012 11:39:42 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Annoy the Establishment! Vote for Akin!)
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To: februus
I was at my son’s football tourney with all of the mothers and fathers and coaches

Yeah, but football tends to draw out the conservatives. A kids' soccer or basketball tournament would probably be a cross section of the population.

74 posted on 11/02/2012 11:39:54 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: birdsman

If you think Romney isn’t conservative enough, why do you turn around and vote for Gary Johnson?

Gary Johnson is a libertarian, and by definition, not a conservative. When I was active in Young Americans for Freedom, libertarians were always saying to me, “we are not conservatives, we are libertarians.” Very well, then I won’t support them.


75 posted on 11/02/2012 11:39:56 AM PDT by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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To: muawiyah

We believe the same about them. But will still vote for a Mormon. It has been said that if you replaced all the dim catholic pols with mormons, you would have laws much closer to the teachings of the RCC.


76 posted on 11/02/2012 11:39:56 AM PDT by Lou Budvis (I'm voting AB0/RYAN)
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To: crosslink
My feeling as well here in SW Pennsylvania where we have a TON of Catholic voters.

I'm of the opinion that it is the Mormon haters who are going to unwittingly drag Mitt over the finish line. Every time they yell "cult", they are the equivalent of the white supremacists who yell the n***** word at Obama.

77 posted on 11/02/2012 11:40:56 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Lou Budvis

Look at it this way, you are going to support a Mormon either way, the question is, will it be Mitt Romney or Harry Reid?


78 posted on 11/02/2012 11:40:56 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

If you don’t want Obama, vote Romney.
Anything else is stupidity.


79 posted on 11/02/2012 11:42:38 AM PDT by rcasto
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To: ladyjane

What I’m aware of is that you have little to no comprehension about what I wrote concerning the former Governor of Massachusetts.


80 posted on 11/02/2012 11:43:17 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: Charles Henrickson
I want Obama to be TROUNCED, HUMILIATED, both in the electoral vote and in the popular vote.

This is a very good point. Even if you live in a "lost state" (deep blue), your vote still counts in the national PV total. We all know this doesn't decide the Presidency, but it has symbolic value in that if our candidate can get over 50% of the PV, the media can't hang that "plurality President" tag on him. Remember that the 'Rats are always great ones for claiming a "mandate" even if they win an election by one vote. Let's work to get our candidate as many votes as we can to counter that kind of crap. We can claim a legitimate mandate if we crack the 50% barrier by a significant amount.

81 posted on 11/02/2012 11:43:46 AM PDT by chimera
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To: rcasto

Or look it at from the standpoint that we should vote out all incumbents.


82 posted on 11/02/2012 11:44:34 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
People are p!$$ed off and even a lot of Dems here are voting Romney. They see him as closer to what they remember the Democrat party used to be and are fed up with the Liberalism rampant in their party.

I actually laugh at liberals who talk about what a "vicious right-winger" Romney is, and then point out to them that he'd be a mainstream Democrat as little as 20 years ago.

83 posted on 11/02/2012 11:46:35 AM PDT by kevkrom (If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs...)
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To: birdsman

What are you thinking? You and a few like you will WASTE your votes on this third party candidate, why, to prove a point that you WILL not vote for R? To be able to say, I voted for such and such, it’s not my fault?

NO ONE on FR wanted Romney for the repub candidate, NO ONE! He is WAY too similar to bronco on a lot of issues.

He has several major differences though;
1. He doesn’t appear to want to destroy America.
2. He seems much less anti-Christian.
3. He doesn’t appear to want to destroy America.

I could go on but I hope you get the picture. DO NOT WASTE YOUR VOTE! Your candidate just DOESN’T have the votes,(or else we would be here bitchin about your candidate instead of R.), we CAN NOT afford to lose this election. wait until next election to prove your point.


84 posted on 11/02/2012 11:46:41 AM PDT by ConservativeChris (I feel like Marvin Boggs!)
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To: birdsman

Early this year I Would have voted for the Libertarian or Constitution party candidate cause romney was no where near conservative enough.

As the year went by Considered voting for Romney while wearing a Clothespin on my nose...

Then Benghazi happened and I ENTHUSIASTICALLY pulled the lever for Mitt!

Do it for our Marines and other service memebers who will be ABANDONED should the “won” Obama get another four years!


85 posted on 11/02/2012 11:47:06 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: tomkat

“Hiding behind some ostentatious self-righteous rationalization or other”

I agree that often they were full of it. But I don’t begrudge them as the draft is as clear a violation of the Constitution as ever there was. I can’t understand people who feel it their patriotic duty, for instance, to refuse to answer body census questionnaires but are perfectly fine being packed off and sent overseas to shoot at foreigners who pose absolutely no threat to national security (properly construed).

That’s pretending the defense of the Republic is sufficient grounds for slavery. I don’t think it is. They say the Constitution is not a suicide pact, but since there’s ni anti-suicide clause yes, it is. Nevermind, though, no condition such as the fate of free government can have reasonably been in doubt existed since the War of 1812. So the “distasteful/dangerous task of ensuring the freedom that you so cavalierly abuse” has nothing to do with serving in the military in the draft era, except as deterrence. But you can rely on volunteers for that.


86 posted on 11/02/2012 11:47:36 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: birdsman

I live in Connecticut and used to think like you.

But Connecticut is in play this year. So I’m voting Romney.

In New York, does Obama still win if everyone south of White Plains doesn’t vote? Because a week without power will change a LOT of attitudes.


87 posted on 11/02/2012 11:48:11 AM PDT by kidd
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To: Names Ash Housewares
We face two choices. 1 or 0. It’s binary.

Yes. And voting for either of the two leading candidates is a vote for the status quo.

My prediction: Romney will win, and except for the rhetoric nothing much will change.

88 posted on 11/02/2012 11:48:11 AM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: birdsman

We’re trying to get rid of the pothead in the WH. Why would we want another?


89 posted on 11/02/2012 11:49:04 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: birdsman
This is why I'm voting Libertarian this year.

Then you are helping Obama get re-elected. Period. There is just no way around it.

Every voter that does not cast a ballot for the only candidate, Mitt Romney, that can actually prevent Hussein from winning another term is effectively giving an assist to Barrack Obama.

Additionally, even though Obama is highly likely to win in New York, doing everything possible to deny Hussein a popular vote victory is very important. Each fewer vote Obama gets makes it more difficult for him to claim a majority of the country is supporting/endorsing his policies.

90 posted on 11/02/2012 11:49:25 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: birdsman

I hate Liberaltarians.


91 posted on 11/02/2012 11:50:33 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (WINNING IS EVERYTHING!)
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To: birdsman

Johnson and you are both helping Obama.


92 posted on 11/02/2012 11:50:47 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: birdsman

So basically you’re voting for Obama, which means you condone his job performance these past four years, and look forward to another four years of his reign.


93 posted on 11/02/2012 11:51:42 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Lou Budvis
Actually, the FLDS thinks they are the true Mormons, which might be true, but there are several other groups out there who also make the claim. Romney belongs to plain old vanilla LDS and try as they might they are getting watered down by an overflow of Christians ~ and there are some secular reasons some Christians join LDS ~ which I don't believe is a surprise to the church leadership.

Many analysts project the LDS to end up converting over to orthodox Christianity in due course on account of the core group being swamped by outsiders. This happened to The Worldwide Church of God ~ picked up too many converts through aggressive proselytization, and then when the founder passed on things began to change ~ now it's a mishmash of breakaway sects of greater or lesser fidelity.

Absent some other reason, schism is rarely permanent ~

94 posted on 11/02/2012 11:53:13 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: bray

I accept many libertarian policies, but I have watched Gary Johnson and have listened to his beliefs.

I find him to be much too doctrinaire. Just like any “knee-jerk” politician, he is “knee-jerk” libertarian. Especially on social issues like abortion and gay marriage - he is simply “anything goes.” Many of his positions show little thought - they seem to simply want to follow the media and the fashion.


95 posted on 11/02/2012 11:53:26 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: birdsman

bird,
in the conservative CT-5 open seat, it is NARAL pro-gay GOP Roraback vs. leftist DEM Esty.

the strategy is to get Esty elected and come back with a center-right candidate in ‘14. Cuz Esty is too liberal for that seat to hold it.

Do we vote Esty or do we vote for write-in constitutionalist John Pistone? Tell us the strategy pleeze.


96 posted on 11/02/2012 11:53:36 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (campaigning for local conservatives)
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To: birdsman
"Joe Biden, at a campaign event today said, 'There's never been a day in the last four years I've been proud to be his vice president.'"

Sorry, couldn't resist. You really want four more years of this???? Really????

97 posted on 11/02/2012 11:54:42 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: muawiyah
do you know what Mormons believe about Catholics?

Yep. And I also know what Catholics believe about Mormons and what both centralized hierarchical works emphasizing churches believe about Evangelicals. And what Evangelicals believe about centralized hierarchical works emphasizing churches. And even what fundamentalist Baptists believe about mainline Southern Baptists.

And just about all faithful adherents of any of the foregoing have the sense to put it aside because they believe doctrinal differences need to take a back seat to defeating a Satanic big government loving terrorist coddling Muslim apologist cult which would put an end to religious freedom in America as we know it.

Do you?

98 posted on 11/02/2012 11:55:56 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: kevkrom

This year ~ in some places.


99 posted on 11/02/2012 11:55:56 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: outofstyle

My sister-in-law non-demoninational evangelical. Said four years ago there would be no way she could vote for a Mormon. She is the pastor of the church. Four years later, she voted (early in Texas) for Romney and her congregation is following suit. They aren’t sitting out. The assault on religion has evangelicals FIRED UP!


100 posted on 11/02/2012 11:56:11 AM PDT by Howard Morrison
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