Posted on 01/12/2015 2:23:15 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Tea Party champion and conservative firebrand Ted Cruz may be ready to embrace his libertarian side and he may need to, if he hopes to find a path from Iowa to the White House.
As it turns out, the death of the Liberty Movement in Iowa may have been greatly exaggerated. While an establishment resurgence in 2014 spearheaded by Governor Terry Branstad succeeded in purging the Ron Paul element from the leadership of the Republican Party of Iowa, members of the states robust and often-boisterous Liberty Movement are turning their attention to greater things namely, the 2016 presidential cycle.
Still reveling in the unexpected victory of libertarian-leaning Congressman Rod Blum in what had been a heavily Democratic eastern Iowa district, the Liberty contingent is starting to have conversations about how much effort and energy should be poured into a presidential race that for the first time in a decade will not feature Rep. Ron Paul.
Paul, who retired from Congress in 2013 but continues to make his presence on the political landscape felt through his new network, will presumably pass his organizational structure and much of his rabid base of support on to his son, Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky; but many folks in the first-in-the-nation caucus state of Iowa think it may be a tougher handoff than many would surmise.
Heather Stancil, Co-Chair of the Madison County GOP and a Ron Paul supporter in 2012, still has some reservations about a Rand Paul candidacy. Rand seems too comfortable with those who compromise their principles, said Stancil, echoing widespread concern over the younger Pauls endorsement of politicians that some see as hostile to the conservative base.
Kara Hadley, a central Iowa activist who identifies closely with the liberty wing of the party, is also concerned with some of Pauls associations. Rand supported Mitch McConnell, and I think thats crazy, said Hadley. I think that Rands trying to play the game, and I know that a lot of people are just tired of the game. She also feels that Rand is not working to lock down support from the conservatarian coalition that his father helped spawn within the Republican Party, but is taking his fathers legacy for granted.
With the apparent reluctance of many libertarian voters to stand with Rand, one would think that other 2016 hopefuls would be quick to court members of the Liberty Movement, 25,000 of whom helped propel Ron Paul to a close third-place finish in the 2012 Iowa Caucuses. But that, too, may be a tall order for many candidates.
For as much as figures like Sen. Rand Paul, Rep. Justin Amash of Michigan, and others have helped mainstream the Ron Paul revolution, there remains some simmering resentment between the frequently-warring factions of the Iowa GOP much of which is still directed at young libertarians who turned the party structure upside-down in 2012. Potential 2016 contenders will have to weigh the benefit of wooing liberty voters, against the cost of an association that many prominent Iowa Republicans including Governor Branstad and Rep. Steve King find troublesome.
Compounding this risk is the fact that Ron Paul Republicans nationwide have earned a reputation as hard-line, skeptical, and often combative though also intensely loyal to those they see as representing their ideals. Iowa Sen. Jason Schultz, a 2012 Ron Paul backer, acknowledges that, though its still too early for people to take sides, the Liberty Movement is paying attention to the rapidly-expanding 2016 field. Liberty folks are better informed, better engaged, and more mature political activists, in my experience, and I think theyre watching, said Schultz.
In other words, its a hard crowd to sell.
If recent actions are any indicator, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz a Tea Party conservative with libertarian leanings is out to prove that hes up to the challenge. Cruz, whose Senate candidacy was endorsed by Ron Paul, has been working to make inroads with the largely-overlooked Liberty constituency in Iowa.
Last August, Cruz sat down with a handful of influential conservatarian activists in Ames to test the presidential waters. He fielded a wide variety of policy and strategy questions, but broke stride during a response on government spending to praise Paul and his followers, while taking a swipe at the suppression of Ron Paul delegates at the Republican National Convention in 2012. Ron Paul is someone I admire and respect, I think he was a powerful voice for liberty still is. And I think he energized an army of activists across this country, said Cruz. One of the stupidest things Republicans did in 2012, was try to kick the Ron Paul people in the teeth. It doesnt make any sense if you want people to be energized and engaged, to go after them and treat them as the enemy.
Cruz has also taken the time to campaign with liberty candidates in Iowa, and his Jobs, Growth, and Freedom Fund recently made a major contribution to conservatarian state PAC Liberty Iowa tied, in fact, for the Funds largest contribution to any person or group nationwide. Cruz has also reached out to liberty leaders in the state to set up meetings later this month when he travels to Des Moines for the Iowa Freedom Summit.
These recent moves, along with his dedication to hard-right policies in Washington, have already started to catch the eye of some of Iowas liberty activists. Schultz, who calls Cruz a rising star in the party, started paying attention to the Texas Senator during Cruzs controversial not-quite-a-filibuster in 2013. He was impressed with what he saw. It gave hope and energy to the base, that somebody was speaking for them, says Schultz of the 21-hour floor speech. Other liberty activists registered a connection with Cruz based upon his opposition to Obamacare, Common Core, and Net Neutrality legislation. They are also supportive of his habitual opposition to increasing the size and scope of government, campaigns for which Team Cruz often utilizes trendy hashtag #makeDClisten.
Adil Khan, Executive Director of Liberty Iowa, thinks that Cruzs role in the government shutdown may actually help him woo liberty activists, whose penchant for controversy and fierce opposition to government growth are becoming fashionable among millennial conservatives. He believes there could be interest in a Cruz candidacy within the Liberty Movement, while acknowledging the fact that Cruz will not start out with the immediate advantages of his Senate counterpart, Rand Paul. Cruz has an uphill battle because he doesnt inherit Ron Pauls base automatically, he has to fight for each and every member, said Khan. But I think there are a lot of principled stances hes taken that a lot of people admire. Thats what they used to see in Ron taking those principled, hard stances and not just backing the establishment every time.
Others are more impressed with Cruzs personal qualities. Hadley recalls, Ive seen the little things that hes done, where hes spoken and then gone around and thanked the staff that waited on the tables, people like him just dont go and do that. Thats a huge quality.
Not everyone, though, is sold on the Texas firebrands style. Former GOP State Central Committee member Tony Krebsbach, who manned the Rand Paul table at last years Family Leadership Summit in Ames, thinks that Cruz might struggle to appeal to some libertarians because of his tendency to cater more to mainline conservatives with his rhetoric. With regard to policy, he sees Rand as being the last stop for the traditionally-purist Liberty Movement. The reasons that a lot of Ron Paul people dont support Rand, would be the same reasons I think they would have a hard time supporting Ted Cruz, said Krebsbach. While acknowledging that Cruz would be his top candidate if Paul were not likely to run, Krebsbach finds Cruzs style to be overly-abrasive, and questions whether such a style can appeal to Democrats and Independents who might otherwise be open to libertarian principles and policies.
Others have similar concerns, worrying that the government shutdown, while inspiring the conservative base, might not have been effective at expanding that base by enticing independent voters into the GOP something they see as a very positive component of Rand Pauls electoral strategy. Some activists are also concerned that Cruzs junior status he is still serving his first term in the Senate could dampen his appeal to some liberty voters who prefer a longer track record with which to vet candidates.
But one thing is for sure, those searching for distinctions between the two conservatarian champions will have the opportunity to find out more, as Cruz and Paul are certain to be a frequent presence in Iowa between now and the time each decides on a presidential run. Those in Ron Pauls Liberty Movement will, for the first time, face a choice with regard to the White House and they plan to do their homework on Cruz.
It will be interesting to find out what happens when Cruz comes to Iowa and some of the hard questions start coming out like, how involved will government get in marriage? and how many bases are we going to withdraw from overseas? Those are questions that contrast Rand from a lot of candidates, so to find out where Cruz will come out on these, I think thats going to come out in 2016, concludes Khan. It will be interesting to hear the difference in rhetoric, but in the end, when it comes to principle, when it comes down to the core votes, I dont think theres that much difference between the two.
I’ve run for office before and as a Constitutionalist, I was often confused as a Paulite.
I had this guy heckle me (live and in social media) for weeks that not supporting legalized marijuana made me a bad conservative. “No,” I repeatedly pointed out, “That made me a bad libertarian.”
I agree that if you can get that element of the tea party on your side, they can be fiercely loyal. They can have a place in a coalition of support. It’s a fine line to walk. You absolutely cannot hedge about where you disagree because not being clear about your differences is tantamount to supporting their viewpoint in their book.
It’s a neat trick for a politician to get you to say yes to them while you’re saying no to them.
Often times, both libertarians and even FReepers are accused of being purists. I disagree. The issue isn’t whether we agree on everything. The issue most of us have with politicians is that they SAY they believe what we do to get elected, but really don’t. Every Republican is a severe conservative come Primary Day.
If Cruz can address their concerns where they agree while not caving on the differences, engaging the Liberty Caucus is smart politics.
Referring to Cruzs time as a student at Harvard Law, Professor Alan Dershowitz said, Cruz was off-the-charts brilliant.
When you run for office, every vote counts, so you want to say yes to everyone.
It takes fortitude to say no.
Of course, it’s not lost on me that that’s probably a good reason I’m not elected.
I’ve gone to endorsement meetings where the other candidate promised to vote however they wanted. I made no such promises. Guess who they endorsed?
Cruz ping.
I mention the above because it’s relevant to the article. Rand Paul is in a position to tell them he’s “One of them”. But, given things like his support for McConnell and his desire to distance himself from his father, the Liberty Caucus is having some doubt.
Their doubt is directly related to concerns that Rand Paul is saying things just to get elected. Maybe he’ll closely resemble his father if elected, but this is a group highly resistant to the ‘say anything to get elected’ argument.
So. I do think Cruz has an opening, but he can’t come across as saying anything to get elected. He has to be frank about his differences.
I think the liberty group could give some on alignment on every issue IF they believe that in return they’ll get someone who’ll stand up and fight where they campaign that they do agree. Wouldn’t you?
” Referring to Cruzs time as a student at Harvard Law, Professor Alan Dershowitz said, Cruz was off-the-charts brilliant.”
Yes, and it shows too. Dersh got one right.
I agree that he is brilliant (of course Dershowitz’s opinion means more!).
I’m not sure I like the designation “firebrand,” though. That makes it sound as though the power of his speech is in the fire with which it is delivered. The power actually comes from what he says, and the incontrovertible logic of it, and the total authority and conviction with which he says it.
That’s what makes him presidential. To talk about a “firebrand” style actually diminishes that.
Cruz, whose Senate candidacy was endorsed by Ron Paul, has been working to make inroads with the largely-overlooked Liberty constituency in Iowa.
Last August, Cruz sat down with a handful of influential conservatarian activists in Ames to test the presidential waters. He fielded a wide variety of policy and strategy questions, but broke stride during a response on government spending to praise Paul and his followers, while taking a swipe at the suppression of Ron Paul delegates at the Republican National Convention in 2012. Ron Paul is someone I admire and respect, I think he was a powerful voice for liberty still is. And I think he energized an army of activists across this country, said Cruz. One of the stupidest things Republicans did in 2012, was try to kick the Ron Paul people in the teeth. It doesnt make any sense if you want people to be energized and engaged, to go after them and treat them as the enemy.
Cruz has also taken the time to campaign with liberty candidates in Iowa, and his Jobs, Growth, and Freedom Fund recently made a major contribution to conservatarian state PAC Liberty Iowa tied, in fact, for the Funds largest contribution to any person or group nationwide. Cruz has also reached out to liberty leaders in the state to set up meetings later this month when he travels to Des Moines for the Iowa Freedom Summit.
If Cruz can address their concerns where they agree while not caving on the differences, engaging the Liberty Caucus is smart politics.
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And Ted Cruz is very smart. Having the foresight to start early in winning over the Liberty Caucus in Iowa is a very smart move. For the GOP Establishment to underestimate him in 2016 would be to their own peril.
If the Liberty Caucus is smart (which they are), they will dump Rand for Ted. Ted is brilliant and a fighter. Rand is only fairly smart and he is not much of a scrapper.
I’ve been waiting for someone like Ted and/or Sarah to do just that, but, it looks like that is never going to happen.
I’m not so sure I agree with you. I understand what you’re saying, but, not sure I agree. People are so thoroughly disgusted and angry with ALL of the mealy-mouthed, compromising, “political whores” in D.C., that the “firebrand” label might be a great advantage.
It’s like calling him a bomb-thrower, as someone else just did. The media twits don’t know what to make of him, so they put him in some kind of cartoon stereotype. Like when they call an argument between two women a “catfight.” They almost certainly are missing what is actually being said. In fact, it’s probably a way of purposely missing what is being said.
Rand Paul On Shutdown: "Even Though It Appeared I Was Participating In It, It Was A Dumb Idea"I said throughout the whole battle that shutting down the government was a dumb idea. Even though it did appear as if I was participating in it, I said it was a dumb idea. And the reason I voted for it, though, is that it's a conundrum. Here's the conundrum. We have a $17 trillion debt and people at home tell me you can't give the president a blank check. We just can't keep raising the debt ceiling without conditions. So unconditionally raising the debt ceiling, nobody at home wants me to vote for that and I can't vote for that. But the conundrum is if I don't we do approach these deadlines. So there is an impasse. In 2011, though, we had this impasse and the president did negotiate. We got the sequester. If we were to extend the sequester from discretionary spending to all the entitlements we would actually fix our problem within a few years.[Posted on 11/19/2013 12:16:51 PM by Third Person]
Rand Paul: Time for GOP to soften war stance...by softening its edge on some volatile social issues and altering its image as the party always seemingly "eager to go to war... We do need to expand the party and grow the party and that does mean that we don't always all agree on every issue" ... the party needs to become more welcoming to individuals who disagree with basic Republican doctrine on emotional social issues such as gay marriage... "We're going to have to be a little hands off on some of these issues ... and get people into the party," Paul said.[Posted on 01/31/2013 5:08:50 PM PST by xzins]
Rand Paul's immigration speech...The Republican Party must embrace more legal immigration.[Posted on 03/19/2013 7:04:07 AM PDT by Perdogg]
Unfortunately, like many of the major debates in Washington, immigration has become a stalemate-where both sides are imprisoned by their own rhetoric or attachment to sacred cows that prevent the possibility of a balanced solution.
Immigration Reform will not occur until Conservative Republicans, like myself, become part of the solution. I am here today to begin that conversation.
Let's start that conversation by acknowledging we aren't going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants.
If you wish to work, if you wish to live and work in America, then we will find a place for you...
This is where prudence, compassion and thrift all point us toward the same goal: bringing these workers out of the shadows and into being taxpaying members of society.
Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers.12 million more people assimilating into society. 12 million more people being productive contributors.
Rand Paul calls on conservatives to embrace immigration reformLatinos, should be a natural constituency for the party, Paul argued, but "Republicans have pushed them away with harsh rhetoric over immigration." ...he would create a bipartisan panel to determine how many visas should be granted for workers already in the United States and those who might follow... [and the buried lead] "Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers...[Posted on 04/21/2013 1:52:42 PM PDT by SoConPubbie]
[but he's not in favor of amnesty, snicker, definition of is is]
Rand Slams Congress for Funding Egypt's Generals: 'How Does Your Conscience Feel Now?'Sen. Rand Paul is hammering his fellow senators for keeping billions in financial aid flowing to Egypt's military -- even as Cairo's security forces massacre anti-government activists. [by "anti-government activists" is meant church-burning Christian-murdering jihadists][Posted on 08/15/2013 5:44:10 PM PDT by Hoodat]
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