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Rick Perry’s breakout moment?
The Washington Post's Right Turn Blog ^ | February 5, 2015 | Jennifer Rubin, Queen of the Neocons

Posted on 02/05/2015 10:21:39 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet
There are things I like about Perry, and things I don't like - but that is true about most of the candidates. What will ultimately determine whether or not I support a candidate is whether I agree with him/her on most issues, and whether any of the issues on which we disagree are so important to me that they outweigh the issues on which we agree.

Anyone looking for a candidate with whom they agree on ALL issues better plan on staying home election day, because they just don't exist.

21 posted on 02/05/2015 10:57:22 AM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: libstripper

I agree, Cruz, Perry and Walker are my three picks too!


22 posted on 02/05/2015 10:59:05 AM PST by Ditter
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To: CA Conservative

Immigration is the only issue this time. It is tied into the economy, national security, unemployment, and education.

H1-B AND southern immigration has to end.


23 posted on 02/05/2015 10:59:55 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: Responsibility2nd
Go Rick Go.

Away.

24 posted on 02/05/2015 11:08:24 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He’ll clean up, just like last time......by that I mean mopping the flop sweat.


25 posted on 02/05/2015 11:14:12 AM PST by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: Ditter
I'd go Perry and Walker. Cruz and Perry are from the same state so that's a no go.

I also believe that Cruz would make the best attorney general in the history of our country and eventually, be among the greatest Supreme Court justices.

26 posted on 02/05/2015 11:15:29 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Texas is finished with him.


27 posted on 02/05/2015 11:16:19 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: RinaseaofDs
H1-B AND southern immigration has to end.

And if NONE of the candidates propose that (which is highly likely), will you stay home, or will you support the candidate whose proposals move the ball the furthest in that direction?

28 posted on 02/05/2015 11:19:11 AM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Responsibility2nd

That’s how I’m feeling about Rick Perry. He does seem to have learned from his mistakes. The Gardisil vaccine was probably about the worst. Not being ready for the debates was another....he needs to know how to deflect when faced with a brain-freeze.


29 posted on 02/05/2015 11:22:40 AM PST by grania
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To: Sacajaweau

I wasn’t thinking of P and VP. I was thinking of presidential candidates. I could easily vote for any one of them for president. I am sure I will narrow it down to one as time passes.


30 posted on 02/05/2015 11:22:43 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Wolfie
At least they’re not for sale.

Classic punchline" "Madame, we have established what you are. Now we negotiating price."

31 posted on 02/05/2015 11:24:10 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: RinaseaofDs
Immigration is the ONLY issue this time

If the US does not END and REVERSE the invasion of the US, there won't even be pockets of the country that can save their identity when the federal beast collapses.

32 posted on 02/05/2015 11:26:17 AM PST by grania
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To: txhurl
Waiting for the Walker supporters to come out and bash Perry on immigration... 4..3..2..1.

Stir the pot much?

33 posted on 02/05/2015 11:26:22 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: grania
As far as Gardisil and Perry are concerned, when the people of Texas said NO Gardisil, Perry said OK and dropped it. The. Vaccine itself is not bad, making it mandatory was bad.
34 posted on 02/05/2015 11:27:09 AM PST by Ditter
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To: CA Conservative

I don’t know. There are 100’s of engineers at SCE this very day training their Indian H1-B replacements, after which they will take their desks home to their families in boxes.

There’s a bunch more at Disney. Some more at MSFT, and Cisco.

Now, to be clear, THEY ARE TRAINING THEIR REPLACEMENTS, or they don’t get their package as they leave. This means they were obviously qualified to do their jobs. It also means someone came in from another country and took the job from them, and then got a bonus for it.

So, I don’t know. You think middle class conservatives should just wave the whole H1-B thing by for the candidate that’s right on whether the ACA should be repealed?

As issues go, they are ranked as follows:

1 - 10. Immigration, in all its forms.
11. Taxes, especially corporate taxes, but also Income.
12. Repealing the ACA and replacing with something sane.
13. Debt and the size of Fedzilla (see issue 12)
100. SCOTUS and the court system
200. Abortion
3000. Gay marriage

“Hey, you forgot about JOBS! Where does that fall on this list?”

It’s number 1. Jobs did go up in the US. You just had to be an immigrant to get one.

So, I don’t know. Immigration is 99% of the problem right now. You think we ought to settle for half a loaf? “OK, we got the fence. To bad I lost my middle class job to a Pakistani with a degree from a diploma mill.”

You should ask them that question after they get done training their replacements at SCE.

I’d say I’m pretty firm on the matter. Immigration IS the election. It’s everything. If the candidate doesn’t have their mind right on it, nothing else in the platform matters. Period.

The guys at Disney, they’re from a liberal state, and they’re more broad minded about that sort of thing. They may have a different take.

Failing that, go into any Whole Foods store and ask any one of the permanently part-time, 25 hour a week employees how they feel about it? They are being replaced by other part timers who are simply ‘undocumented’.

Between immigration, the ACA, and tax policy - the middle class is dead. Mort.

Above and beyond all else is immigration.

There is no ‘moving the ball’ on immigration. End the destruction of the middle class, or don’t run for office. This isn’t a hard problem to fix. Not even politically.

This isn’t ‘gay rights’ or ‘abortion’. I could care less about them. They are there to keep us stirred up. The ONLY ISSUE is immigration, which is tied into jobs, taxes, the ACA, all of it.


35 posted on 02/05/2015 11:37:46 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: RinaseaofDs

I don’t disagree that immigration is a critical issue for the health of the country going forward. I just like to hear what people plan on doing if none of the candidates are willing to propose or support the solutions preferred by many here.

Please understand, I am not one who says we have to hold our nose and vote GOP no matter what. There are definitely some issues and candidates that would make me stay home rather than vote and be complicit. I know what those issues are for me. And don’t bother trying to tell me it is my fault if Hilary/Warren/etc. gets elected in that case. If that were to happen, it would be the fault of the GOP for running a candidate so out of touch with the base that I could not in good conscience cast my vote for them.

It would be interesting to see where other conservatives draw that line.


36 posted on 02/05/2015 11:48:01 AM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: CA Conservative

Here’s what the right doesn’t yet get, and oddly, the union left is VERY attuned to right now:

Immigration is THE issue.

The other area of the world that is absolutely LIVING it right now is the EU.

If they could take back the 1990s and all that refuge crap, they would - without question.

All that came to a head with Charlie Hebdo, but Theo Van Gogh was the ‘Uh Oh’ moment. All that broad minded crap, and then we do the same thing - run over the same cliff - while we are watching Europe collapse.

And the guys rooting the loudest had Rs AFTER THEIR NAME. McCain, Bush, Conryn, Graham, Collins, Snowe - you name it.

It isn’t A critical issue. It is THE ONLY ISSUE. Everything is tied to it - from national security to states rights, to taxation to jobs to national health policy.

That’s the big, blaring, message that came out of the midterms this time around.

For the first time, EVER, an R candidate with the right message on immigration could SWEEP the labor voting demographic on the left.

Based on what I’m seeing from black groups in the upper Midwest, that message might just carry that group for the first time ever.

It’s THE ONLY ISSUE.


37 posted on 02/05/2015 11:56:42 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: RinaseaofDs
There are 100’s of engineers at SCE this very day training their Indian H1-B replacements, after which they will take their desks home to their families in boxes.

There’s a bunch more at Disney. Some more at MSFT, and Cisco.

Now, to be clear, THEY ARE TRAINING THEIR REPLACEMENTS, or they don’t get their package as they leave. This means they were obviously qualified to do their jobs.

Also more qualified than their replacements.

Proves again that there is no "shortage" of tech-qualified labor. H1B is corporate welfare.

38 posted on 02/05/2015 12:07:50 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: txhurl
>> Waiting for the Walker supporters to come out and bash Perry on immigration... <<

Be glad to comply.

It's interesting how Walker gets racked over the coals for supposedly being "pro-amnesty" when he's from a RAT state yet is much more conservative on immigration than Perry, who is from a safe GOP state and has a much more conservative constituency than Walker.

One of Walker's first acts as Governor was to move to cut funding for in-state tuition for illegal aliens (which had been enacted long before he became Governor), whereas Perry happily signed it into law and continues to loudly defend it. Then there's the fact that Walker said he strongly supports AZ's immigration law and would sign such a law in Wisconsin, whereas Perry said the law was "not right for Texas"

Yep, but all the people making excuses for Perry's mediocre record in safely GOP Texas and claiming he was the second coming of Reagan are now "concerned" that Walker just isn't strong enough on illegal immigration.

Ironic, I'd say.

39 posted on 02/05/2015 12:10:01 PM PST by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Unless someone else (Cruz, Palin)steps forward, I could support Rick. He’s 80% there. Nobody’s gonna be at 100%.


40 posted on 02/05/2015 12:10:58 PM PST by showme_the_Glory ((ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government))
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