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Why it's so hard for conservatives to unify behind one candidate
CBS News ^ | May 5, 2015 | John Dickerson

Posted on 05/05/2015 6:24:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The field of announced Republican candidates has recently doubled to six, with the entry of Ben Carson, Carly Fiorina, and Mike Huckabee. When you add the candidates who are almost certain to soon join the race--Jeb Bush, Gov. Scott Walker, Rick Perry, and Gov. Chris Christie--and the others who might, the field will be big enough to fill an airport shuttle van. The stage at the first Fox News debate in early August will have so many people on it, the organizers may need to put everyone on bleachers.

The Republican presidential pageant is vastly more diverse than the Democratic coronation. The GOP field includes a female CEO, a black surgeon, two Cuban Americans, a lawyer, and a preacher.

This all-but-a-candlestick-maker group is the most robust Republican field in history. But while some Republicans celebrate their diversity and strength, some conservatives see it as a challenge. "If we continue to split the vote, we'll lose to the establishment candidate," says Fran Wendelboe, a former seven-term New Hampshire state representative who now heads an effort to consolidate the conservative vote in the Granite State. Named the 603 Alliance, after the state's area code, the group is committed to picking a Republican candidate who shares its members' views about limited government and who promises to be an executive operating within a strict interpretation of the Constitution. The Alliance hopes to bring candidates together in an October caucus where members will agree to gather behind one horse....

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TOPICS: Campaign News; Issues; Parties; Polls
KEYWORDS: huckabee; randpaul; sarahpalin; scottwalker; tedcruz
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

True conservatives unite around Cruz. ‘Nuff said.


21 posted on 05/05/2015 6:53:16 PM PDT by GrouchoTex (...and ye shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free....)
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To: Seruzawa

Virtually any conservative Presidential candidate can win in 2016.

They only need to do one thing and it’s really easy to accomplish.

Utterly destroy the liberal concept of the “Group”.


22 posted on 05/05/2015 6:53:45 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: GrouchoTex

once the undecided hear Ted Cruz speak, they will see him as the modern day Reagan. Election Over.


23 posted on 05/05/2015 6:58:40 PM PDT by Cruz_West_Paul2016
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To: Zeneta

Virtually any conservative Presidential candidate can win in 2016.

They only need to do one thing and it’s really easy to accomplish.


You’re right about the first part.

The one thing they need to do is get the GOP nomination and that will be the hard part. All the levers of power within the GOP/RNC are in the hands of The Cheap Labor Express. They have paid for an amnesty candidate and they intend to have one.

If they can’t get Bush, Rubio will do.


24 posted on 05/05/2015 6:59:50 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

On the one hand there is Cruz, and on the other hand there is Cruz, decisions, decisions.


25 posted on 05/05/2015 7:02:21 PM PDT by pallis
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Why doesn’t everyone love Jeb, a guaranteed LOSER, as much as the MSN does?” -Media.


26 posted on 05/05/2015 7:03:42 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: Lurkinanloomin

” The one thing they need to do is get the GOP nomination and that will be the hard part. All the levers of power within the GOP/RNC are in the hands of The Cheap Labor Express. They have paid for an amnesty candidate and they intend to have one.”

NAILED.

We need a lot of money, not just a candidate.


27 posted on 05/05/2015 7:04:27 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: pallis

” On the one hand there is Cruz, and on the other hand there is Cruz,”

Cruz Control


28 posted on 05/05/2015 7:05:13 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Dogbert41

Dog, you have a way with words. Keep it up!


29 posted on 05/05/2015 7:07:17 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Lurkinanloomin

I’m sorry, but...

None of that will matter in the general election.

I agree with and share many of your principles.

I am a full blown Cruz supporter !!!!

Ideas matter.

People matter, even if they have been misguided.

They vote.

Nobody wants to be “Defined” by someone else. It’s human nature.

The libs/dems only exist by forcing individuals into groups that they portend to care about.

A conservative candidate that boldly exposes the liberal game plan and addresses people as individuals will win.

They “MUST” make the the liberal “group” agenda the centerpiece of their message.

I am not a group.

You are not a group.

They will not define me.

They have no right to define me.


30 posted on 05/05/2015 7:22:45 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Simple, conservatives have opinions, liberals are lemmings.

Its easy for lemmings to choose.


31 posted on 05/05/2015 7:24:44 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Because our holier than thou attitude about candidates gives us the right to bitch when the democrats win. Then we can sit on our butts while we watch our country being destroyed./rant


32 posted on 05/05/2015 7:35:08 PM PDT by snippy_about_it
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A problem I see is the word conservative doesn’t mean anything any more. you got you big government liberal conservatives i.e. Bush, Kasich, Crispy, Huckster. Then you got your “who knows what they really are” conservatives like Santorum, Rubio, Rand, then you got your conservative conservatives i.e. Palin, Cruze, Lee. All very confusing.


33 posted on 05/05/2015 7:40:57 PM PDT by Breto (Stranger in a strange land... where did America go?)
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To: Zeneta
The problem with that is that it's 'conventional wisdom' and that isn't going to work this time around.

Too many conservatives are very angry at the GOP-E.

Your concern is noted. As are all concerned. There are plenty.

I'll keep sending money to the Cruz campaign.

/johnny

34 posted on 05/05/2015 8:00:42 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: Breto
Only in your mind.

In other minds, conservatives are conservative, where killing babies is always wrong, support for the 2nd amendment is always right, socialized medicine is always wrong, and bigger government is always wrong.

Everyone else is an imposter, and not a conservative.

/johnny

35 posted on 05/05/2015 8:04:04 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hey, just because a lot of folks are lined up, doesn’t mean we’re having trouble deciding.

I sent Cruz money on day 1.

Nobody who has run for Prez before is going to win the GOP nod this time.


36 posted on 05/05/2015 8:05:27 PM PDT by G Larry (Obama Hates America, Israel, Capitalism, Freedom, and Christianity.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Well, of those listed:
  1. Ben Carson — Smart guy, soft on the 2nd Amendment.
  2. Carly Fiorina — Who?
  3. Mike Huckabee — Throws in with the invaders.
  4. Jeb Bush — Throws in with the invaders.
  5. Scott Walker — I don't know about his views on the illegal immigrants invaders.
  6. Rick Perry — Throws in with the invaders.
  7. Chris Christie — Big government type.
So of the seven there's 1 (one) I would at all be inclined to vote for [Dr. Carson] and 2 (two) I'd need more info on to consider; all the rest are solid NO-GOs for me.
37 posted on 05/05/2015 8:11:38 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

The problem with that is that it’s ‘conventional wisdom’ and that isn’t going to work this time around.


It’s never been done in the general election.

We’ve had “So-called” conservatives that have allowed themselves to be defined by the media tools of the left.

They have been left to defend themselves and as a result have been easily painted as “right-wing” nut jobs.

A candidate that can cut off the media’s preconceived narrative of a “Conservative” by undermining their questions, the basis of their questions. All their questions are “gotcha’ in nature, after all.

“I am not a Group”

“Don’t even try to define me”


38 posted on 05/05/2015 8:19:18 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: OneWingedShark
LOL!

You really are in the tank for the GOP-E.

You didn't even mention the first candidate to announce.

Doesn't matter, you may not care which candidate the media or GOP-E selects, but I do care, and I have and will continue to volunteer and send money to the candidate I want to vote for.

The good thing to know is that you will vote for whatever (R) actually runs.

So it's up to people like me to make sure that Cruz is the one.

/johnny

39 posted on 05/05/2015 8:31:01 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
LOL!
You really are in the tank for the GOP-E.
You didn't even mention the first candidate to announce.

I took the candidates listed in the opening paragraphs of the article… how does that make me in the tank for the GOP-E?

You didn't even mention the first candidate to announce.

Again, see the above.

Doesn't matter, you may not care which candidate the media or GOP-E selects, but I do care, and I have and will continue to volunteer and send money to the candidate I want to vote for.
The good thing to know is that you will vote for whatever (R) actually runs.

Really?
JRandomFreeper, you should know me better than that — [IIRC] you were one who defended my position that my vote for my former governor (Gary Johnson) was not a vote for Obama as some were claiming (Because it wasn't a vote for Romney, it must have been for Obama!).

So it's up to people like me to make sure that Cruz is the one.

If he wins the primary, I cannot in good conscience vote for him — I believe him to be Constitutionally ineligible* and refuse to violate my Oath to uphold and defend the Constitution in such a manner. (I understand that you and others have a different opinion, and I won't hinder you from exercising your will as a citizen as to do so would essentially assert that your opinions are valid only when they coincide with mine.)


* My reasoning is as follows: He was born in Canada, to a non-citizen father and an American mother. The 14th Amendment cannot be cited to confer citizenship as Canada is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, nor was he born or naturalized in the United States — this means that any reference to federal laws (which are cited to prove his citizenship, which is not in question) must needs be devolve from Art 1, Sec 8, which is the power of Congress to set a uniform rule of naturalization. So, his citizenship must be naturalized. (I suspect the 2008 and 2012 elections were engineered to place people into the presidency which would undermine the Natural-Born Citizen requirement, as that is a piece of nationalism that our open-borders overlords loathe and despise.)
40 posted on 05/05/2015 9:20:49 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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