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Lion Ted: Cruz Crushes the Detroit Debate
The Weekly Standard ^ | March 4, 2016 | Jonathan V. Last

Posted on 03/04/2016 1:33:29 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

In theory, Ted Cruz's best states are behind him. But at the Detroit debate, Cruz was clearly the class of the field and it's clear that no one should count him out as the delegate race moves into its next phase.

The delegate math is complicated, but the basic gist goes something like this: Donald Trump has a commanding lead at the moment, but it is not a given that he will reach the 1,237 threshold he needs to clinch a majority. Simply put, Trump has failed to break through the ceiling of support he's held since New Hampshire even as the field has consolidated. While he will be helped by winner-take-all states, where he can sweep full slates of delegates even with his plurality, he may be hurt by closed-primary states, where only Republicans vote. So his path is more challenging than it appears.

Cruz's path is more challenging still. But tonight's strong performance can only help Cruz--both with voters and with the party regulars who would play a big role in deciding the nominee should there be a brokered convention.

What Cruz did at the debate was make three parallel cases:

1.) Trump is a fraud who can't be trusted to keep his word.

2.) Trump is not either conservative or Republican in any meaningful way.

3.) Trump actually is the corruption that he decries.

He advanced these arguments not one at a time, but by interweaving them with specific attacks:

* He positively crushed Trump on the use of foreign labor at Mar-a-Lago. He didn't just bring up the fact that hundreds of applicants applied for these jobs but that Trump prefers to hire foreigners instead, but included Trump's line from the last post-debate interview where he claimed that these were jobs American workers couldn't and wouldn't do.

* He thoroughly prosecuted Trump on the question of Trump's off-the-record New York Times interview, which Trump steadfastly refuses to release.

* At the end of the segment on Trump University--where Trump's best defense was telling voters that they should "wait a few years" to see whether or not he committed fraud, Cruz flashed in with a rapier: "Megyn, let me ask the voters at home, is this the debate you want playing out in the general election?" It was brutal.

* When Trump went to his poll numbers--as he always does--Cruz was ready. Trump touted a terrible CNN poll showing him at 49 percent support. Cruz waited for Trump to double down and defend the integrity of the poll. And then he noted that this same poll also showed Trump losing to Clinton and Cruz beating her.

* When the Second Amendment came up, Trump made a gauzy statement of general support. Cruz then dropped the hammer:

It is easy for political candidates to have rhetoric and say, "I support the Second Amendment." But you cannot say that and at the same time say what Donald just said, which is that on the question of Supreme Court nominees he wants to compromise and reach a middle ground with Harry Reid and Chuck Schumer. That's what he said in the last debate. . . . And I would point out, Harry Reid and Chuck Schumer are both Democrats that Mr. Trump has written checks to repeatedly. Any justice that those two sign off on is going to be a left-wing judicial activist who will undermine religious liberty, and we are one vote away from the Heller decision being overturned, which would effectively erase the Second Amendment from the Bill of Rights. Amendment rights, but when you say you'd compromise with Harry Reid, you put that in jeopardy.

* Cruz's most devastating line was probably this summation:

I understand the folks who are supporting Donald right now. You're angry. You're angry at Washington, and he uses angry rhetoric. But for 40 years, Donald has been part of the corruption in Washington that you're angry about. And you're not going to stop the corruption in Washington by supporting someone who has supported liberal Democrats for four decades, from Jimmy Carter to John Kerry to Hillary Clinton. You're not going to stop the corruption and the cronyism by supporting someone who has used government power for private gain.


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To: AmericanInTokyo

You have jumped the shark AIT .


41 posted on 03/04/2016 2:53:31 AM PST by sushiman
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To: Boardwalk

In Canada, I would be jailed for quoting the Bible so, no; I might as well wait until such wonderful progressive policies are brought here.


42 posted on 03/04/2016 2:54:46 AM PST by stormhill
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To: dp0622

You’re saying get some balls but you have to type balls as b.lls? Get some BALLS!


43 posted on 03/04/2016 2:55:25 AM PST by Boardwalk
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To: Bird Jenkins
"Brutal", yes you are correct.

The whole incident, the 10 seconds you point out, went viral so quickly.

Certainly a Cruz Homer photo doh.gif

d'oh moment.

44 posted on 03/04/2016 3:01:45 AM PST by rineaux
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To: mbrfl

Like your hero right. When the truth becomes uncomfortable make personal attacks.


45 posted on 03/04/2016 3:08:40 AM PST by applpie
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To: orangeTank

Here a cool model
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/02/27/upshot/republican-delegate-calculator-how-trump-can-win.html


46 posted on 03/04/2016 3:09:32 AM PST by Toughluck_freeper
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Thanks for the summary, clearly the article was too long and complex for Trumpettes.


47 posted on 03/04/2016 3:10:07 AM PST by babble-on
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To: cowboyway
Do you get the impression Trump is a blank canvas onto which his followers project their own desires? They will whitewash his entire record as irrelevant and all that matters is what he says today.
He donated to Reid, Pelosi, McConnell, Clinton? Business need, doncha know.
He held positions contrary to current ones? Oh, that's so five years ago...

Bizarre!

48 posted on 03/04/2016 3:13:18 AM PST by stormhill
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To: dp0622
So? If Cruz wins I will vote for him.

Most Trump people have said the same thing.

49 posted on 03/04/2016 3:20:31 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: stormhill

Thank you, You do likewise.


50 posted on 03/04/2016 3:21:33 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nobody won that debate last night. Except for Hillary 2016.


51 posted on 03/04/2016 3:24:17 AM PST by McGruff (Get on the Trump Train.)
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To: Bobalu

The booger eater Cruz probably will drop 5-10% in the polls after the video went viral on the internet.


52 posted on 03/04/2016 3:24:44 AM PST by Godebert (CRUZ: Born in a foreign land to a foreign father.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Talking about a private sector man as being part of the Washington corruption just proves to me that Cruz thinks we are all idiots unable to read.
I was here long before he even entered politics. He should have joined us as we discussed Alberto Gonzalez, the Blue Dress, Papa Bush’s betrayal of the Suuni people, PNAC, etc., etc., etc.

It’s clear to me that Romney is pulling the strings of both Cruz and Rubio, so I would prefer to send the children back to bed and ask Romney to ‘bring it’ so we have the option of finishing him in politics once and for all.


53 posted on 03/04/2016 3:27:45 AM PST by mabelkitty (Trump 2016!)
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To: Godebert

I kinda feel sad for Cruz, yes i give him credit for being what he is and i still cannot ever like him but in todays age of near instant global social interconnection its a definitive moment that has visually forever branded him.


54 posted on 03/04/2016 3:28:05 AM PST by Daniel Ramsey (You don't have to like Trump, his enemies certainly don't.)
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To: Eagles6

If it were only Trump saying it...
This video soured me on Cruz, hopefully not beyond redemption...

https://www.facebook.com/tedcruzpage/videos/10153917713152464/


55 posted on 03/04/2016 3:28:43 AM PST by kanawa (....It's the seriousness of the accusation)
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To: kanawa

Why did that sour you on Cruz?


56 posted on 03/04/2016 3:34:43 AM PST by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: Eagles6

Because it is a distortion of the truth, in other words a lie,
and not what I expect from a principled conservative.


58 posted on 03/04/2016 3:38:14 AM PST by kanawa (....It's the seriousness of the accusation)
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To: Bird Jenkins

Apparently it was a Tic Tac, big deal. We watched the debate and didn’t notice anything. But those who don’t like Cruz are making sure this juvenile attack takes precedence over the content of the debate.


59 posted on 03/04/2016 3:38:21 AM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Bird Jenkins

Yes. Nixon is remembered for losing because of sweat on his upper lip. Now it’s a piece of something on Cruz’s upper lip.


60 posted on 03/04/2016 3:39:15 AM PST by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject)
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