Posted on 04/15/2016 2:18:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Why not? I was hoping a curve ball would change the pace of this game.
I would also vastly prefer to see someone win fairly, with the required delegate count, whoever it be...
Colorado was a travesty... and no they didn’t play by “the rules”. Arizona was an eye opener. Trump won by 2 to 1 over Cruz yet all the Trump delegates are actually Cruz operatives. That is a travesty as well.
The GOPe and Cruz are making a mockery of the system and destroying the credibility of the Republican party. What more should we expect from a bunch slime ball attorneys?
Most of those delegates are factory workers, mailmen, telemarketers, farmers, small business owners and housewives. I doubt that many of them are lawyers.
The slime ball attorney I was referring to are Cruz and the GOPe. But whether the Cruz operatives call themselves factory workers, mailmen, telemarketers, farmers, small business owners and housewives is completely irrelevant and mostly not accurate. I have been involved in local Republican party politics, the people I meet at meetings are mostly NOT factory workers, mailmen, telemarketers, farmers, small business owners and housewives.
Surprise! A lot of us here have been involved in the party. This is a conservative political forum.
Not all states have conventional "primary" elections, and it goes against the rights of states to be forced to conform to a "uniform" system, even if imposed by the GOP.
Remember that the grass roots STATE GOP'ers set the rules for their various methods of selecting nominees. In Ohio, I did receive a ballot, but could not vote for any actual candidate, only for the "delegates" representing the various contenders (at that time, there were still about 12, including many who had recently "suspended") at the nominating convention.
Please consider that your vote counts as much as anyone else's in your state, however your primaries are run.
Also consider that understanding how the various state "primaries" and caucuses are run does not equate to "hustling, stealing, manipulating, cheating and exploiting" the voters OR the other candidates out of their due votes.
So far the "GOP Elite" (whoever they are?) have not fared well...I will vote for whoever wins at the convention, and I doubt it will anyone other than Trump or Cruz!
I'm sure MY opinion has been heard and my candidate vote has been recorded "by proxy" with our state convention delegates, and that's good enough for me for now! Delegates ARE bound on at least the 1st vote, and I would not want it to be otherwise.
Interesting note: on the Democrat side, Bernie Sanders has had a remarkable record of state "wins", all things considered...but almost all "caucuses". At least in the GOP we don't have "super delegates" - which is what's totally tipping the balance for HRC so far.
What do you think Cruz should do, refuse the delegates!? The fight isn’t with Cruz. Trump looks like a whiney playground loser over this. He makes me sick.
So 2nd DivisionVet, i live in Maryland. I noticed that the ballot includes a vote for the candidate and a second vote for choosing three delegates. so does this mean my vote for the candidate drives the 1st ballot and the subsequent ballots are driven by my choice of candidates (which do indicate who they support). i still dont get why people would vote for unbound candidates and there were plenty of them on the ballot.
You’re just upset because you aren’t familiar with the new rules Trump is playing by, and how his ground game is different than the one you expected to be played against your pick.
Cruz needs to do his homework if he’s going to run against Trump.
“WHO they are flooding us with, tells us WHY. It ain’t the best. It is the worst. And it is about replacing all of you with cheap labor, ending the middle class, and balkanizing us.
They are so addicted to cheap labor, not only will they, and are, overwhelming us with illiterate foreigners and those who will never assimilate but only balkanize us and eventually we will have Yugoslavia like civil war right here, I am telling you right now - THEY WOULD REINSTATE SLAVERY IF THEY COULD for their cheap labor drug, and don’t put it past them to try.”
TRUTH
“Had this been any other candidate other than Trump, no one would be defending the actions of these candidates in attempting to win at the convention against the overwhelming front runner.”
Truth
If Trump’s ground game is to destroy the integrity of the Republican party, then yes, I do not like that.
Believe as you wish, but that is horse manure Trump is feeding you. Trump is a serial Liar like Hillery his BFF.
Well then, unless things are radically different where you live... you know very well that your characterization of who you find at party meetings is a cliché and not accurate. I have always respected you and your point of view a great deal.
All kinds of people participate. When I was an almost full-time volunteer at county headquarters I was also a night shift security patrolman at an Air Guard base.
We have all been hearing for a while how brilliant Cruz is in his "ground game". How efficient. How he uses the system to his advantage. How he didn't make the rules, but is just the best at playing by them. ..
The question you asked though seems to imply he did NOT actually have a great ground game for working the delegates. That he is an innocent beneficiary of a system that just happened to give him an advantage in delegate assignment and delegate loyalty beyond what he received from the voters. I am not sure whether you meant to imply this or not, but let us consider both viewpoints...
On the first view, At best the Cruz side ought acknowledge Trump simply out played him in the contest of campaign competence. That Cruz was penny wise but pound foolish. That he got rope-a-doped by a superior strategist who used Cruz's own strong suit against him.
On the second view, Cruz isn't as clever as people thought, nor as pro-active. I simply don't think this is the case. There is a lot of evidence that Cruz is very smart, very organized, and very ahead of the other candidates in the morally shady business of delegate wrangling
Trump looks like a whiney playground loser over this. He makes me sick.
Perhaps this is the way his opponents wished he looked, but the national polls after the Colorado stuff seem to show a bump for Trump.
We live near a large military base. The largest number of people at our local Republican Party are professionals and retried professionals followed closely by business owners and retired business owners, followed by retired military officers and their wives and then a gaggle of attorneys who take every opportunity to remind the rest of us that they are smarter and better than we are.
Trump didn’t come up with this, its how it’s been reported from the get go. The state GOP changed the rules in August to exclude voters. It’s a fact.
Nahhhh... Not Slavery. They have already reinstated ENSLAVEMENT.
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