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Impeaching Trump is a heavy lift
Brookings ^ | June 16, 2017 | Jonathan Rauch·

Posted on 06/17/2017 4:57:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Suppose most Americans were to conclude that President Trump is unfit for office. How long would it take to remove him? If President Nixon’s example provides any guidance, the answer is: a long time—if ever.

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Consider the first chart, which shows Nixon’s approval ratings throughout his truncated second term, and also Trump’s approval ratings so far. (All of the approval numbers cited here are from Gallup’s Presidential Job Approval Center.) Nixon’s second-term approval started strong, in the high sixties, but plummeted as Watergate revelations emerged. By the time the Senate Watergate hearings began, in May of 1973, his ratings were under 50 percent. By the time of the Saturday Night Massacre, in October of 1973, his approval was mired in the mid-twenties, never to recover.

Still, Nixon held onto office for more than 17 months after his ratings sank below 50 percent, and for more than nine months after they sank into the twenties. Being loathed by the American public, and being widely and correctly perceived to be a criminal, did not do him in for a long time.

The reason was that the critical variable was not overall approval but Republican approval. Removal either by impeachment or under the 25th Amendment, the two mechanisms available, requires a 67-vote Senate supermajority (unless a president is too incapacitated to serve). As a result, even though Democrats controlled Congress in 1974, Nixon could not be removed without Republican legislators’ support.

The same arithmetic applies to Trump today. Even if Democrats manage to win a House majority next year, the most Senate seats they could possibly capture in 2018 (if they won every race) is 56. Unless Republican Senators, and quite a few of them, defect from Trump, he stays put until at least January 2021....

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TOPICS: Polls; State and Local; U.S. Congress; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: democrats; impeachment; republicans; trump
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To: TomGuy

Desperation from the Left


21 posted on 06/17/2017 5:38:46 PM PDT by Third Person (Without double standards the left would have no standards at all.)
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To: Third Person
“Desperation from the Left”

Yes, but a big lesson here is that when you win an election against people such as these, you clean house as fast as possible afterwards and leave no hold-overs. Doing it any other way is like defeating an enemy army, but leaving their snipers in place to shoot at you.

22 posted on 06/17/2017 5:46:40 PM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: Baldwin77

Bill Clinton was impeached or are just stirring the pot


23 posted on 06/17/2017 5:51:36 PM PDT by al baby (May the Forceps be with you Hi Mom Its a Joke friends)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Unless Republican Senators, and quite a few of them, defect from Trump,

These limp-d!(K traitors defected a long time ago.

They control the house and the senate. Just stop it all. Now. No committee hearings, no floor votes, nothing on this subject. THEY have business to get done on behalf of the American people (yeah, I know).

24 posted on 06/17/2017 6:40:02 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Third Person

And complicity from the so-called right. The house and Senate leadership could lock the whole thing down, right now, and they should do it.


25 posted on 06/17/2017 6:42:31 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Tammy8

I know. Ridiculous isnt it. The result of decades of public education. Try to tell one of them that there is absolutely no scenario where Hillary will become President and they act like You’re crazy.


26 posted on 06/17/2017 6:46:27 PM PDT by Seruzawa (FABOL)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I can't believe Sessions let it get this far......ssoooooooooo freakin disappointed !! He needs to go...President Trump he let you down royally...he recuse himself without consenting with you....how freakin disrespectful and arrogant ..fire him asap!! He was the only backup you had cause the nasty backstabbing GOPe republicans would never give you the time of day!! AND NEVER WILL! 😢
27 posted on 06/17/2017 7:23:58 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is the third article I’ve seen today falsely implying that the president SHOULD be impeachable by all reasonable measure but that the process is hard????? I wondered if the MSM is backing up a little - trying to calm their own base because they keep show casing Dem officals trying to out do each other with threats of impeachment but no action has been taken.
I also wonder if it’s to drive more assassination attempts by falsely implying yet anther way that he’s Hitler and that only extreme, but historically justifiable, measures will “take him out” of office. Whatever the real reason for these articles today, it’s clear the MSM is altering it’s strategy for now.


28 posted on 06/17/2017 7:24:19 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: al baby

What about OBAMA? NO IMPEACHMENT HERE??
Making a new BUMPER STICKER

“NO MORE PRESIDENTS FROM KENYA”


29 posted on 06/17/2017 7:29:12 PM PDT by hapnHal
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To: Baldwin77

Clinton was impeached. The House impeaches. He was not convicted. The Senate has the power to convict.


30 posted on 06/17/2017 7:43:13 PM PDT by Freee-dame (Best election ever.)
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To: AndyJackson

“The house and Senate leadership could lock the whole thing down, right now, and they should do it”

North Carolina Senator Richard Burr is a lot to blame for how far this has gone. Mueller came to Burr’s office on Wednesday and later that day the Washington Post published that Mueller was investigating the President for “obstruction of justice”. I called Burr’s office on Friday and complained about this, but I was told Mueller’s investigation was about Russian interference in the 2016 election.


31 posted on 06/17/2017 9:09:28 PM PDT by Antipolitico
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah, that whole Civil War thing and all. Disenfranchised voters knowing exactly what bullshit is going on and all.


32 posted on 06/17/2017 9:19:32 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("Washington, DC. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Go ahead, Democrats, try pulling this. I suspect certain people know who are are pulling the strings. Those people in the know will be taking care of business. The rest of of the population will take care of the known Democrat shit-bags.

Or the patriots will take care of the heavy lifting.


33 posted on 06/17/2017 9:29:05 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("Washington, DC. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious")
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To: Baldwin77

Bill Clinton was impeached but not convicted.


34 posted on 06/17/2017 9:31:58 PM PDT by Williams (Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trump’s opposition members are living proof pregnancy by anal sex is possible


35 posted on 06/18/2017 4:35:16 AM PDT by okie 54
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Let them keep on dreaming while Trump gets more judges in, more energy being drilled, more jobs, fewer unnecessary regulations, etc.

Closer and closer we are to a first step 0bamacare insurance scam repeal and a budget.


36 posted on 06/18/2017 10:07:19 AM PDT by Principled (OMG I'm so tired of all this winning....)
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To: RoseofTexas

“I can’t believe Sessions let it get this far......ssoooooooooo freakin disappointed !! He needs to go”

Kick Sessions to the curb; he’s too weak. Replace him with Pirro or Sekulow.


37 posted on 06/18/2017 10:13:49 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("Negative people make healthy people sick." - Roger Ailes)
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To: Baldwin77

Well, impeachment is the process in the House of Representatives to bring charges against the president.

Bill Clinton was impeached by the House. But he was not convicted of the charges in his Senate trial.

Nixon resigned before the House could act on impeachment, but the House Judiciary Committee had approved articles of impeachment to be considered by the entire House. Nixon resigned and made a vote in the whole House a moot point.


38 posted on 06/18/2017 9:06:37 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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