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Ancient rock "carved faces" found: Sign of lost race, or geological processes?
BBC News/Science ^ | Monday, 20 October, 2003 | Dr David Whitehouse

Posted on 10/20/2003 9:58:38 AM PDT by yankeedame

Last Updated: Monday, 20 October, 2003, 11:11 GMT 12:11 UK

Ancient carved 'faces' found

By Dr David Whitehouse BBC News Online science editor


If this is genuine, the artist would have been an extinct human species that died out about 150,000 years ago.

Cliff face

Local inhabitants say that prehistoric human faces are nothing new to the region and point to a rock cliff that they believe has been sculpted. They call it the Face of Borzone.

In 2001, in a pile of rubble collected for use as building material, Pietro Gaietto, from the Museum of the Origins of Man, saw something unusual in one particular head-sized rock.

"If I had not spotted it, it would have been covered in concrete and put into a wall," he told BBC News Online

Pietro Gaietto says it shows two heads, facing outwards and joined at the neck. One of the faces is bearded; the other is beardless.

Conceptual thought

"It has a very expressive face," he says. "The beardless face has two eyes, a mouth and a wide nose."


The Face of Borzone

He says close inspection of the rock reveals that it has been carved and knocked into shape.

Gaietto believes the sculpture is 200,000 years old, and would have been used in rituals.

He says it would have been made by an extinct species of human called Homo erectus, of which there is evidence in the region.

Older still

Gaietto's claims are controversial because hominids such as Homo erectus are not thought to have been capable of the symbolic thought needed to create art.

The earliest examples of human artwork that scientists feel confident to describe as such are all less than 100,000 years old. The most notable items are probably the 70,000-year-old engraved ochre pieces found in the Blombos Cave of South Africa.

But there are items some researchers have claimed to be art that are even older than the faces of Borzonasca. The so-called Tan-Tan object unearthed in Morocco in 1999 is said to be a 400,000-year-old sculpted figurine.

Mainstream science, however, believes these items are not man-made at all. It argues the distinctive features have very probably been moulded by geological processes.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abunchofrocks; archeology; artbell; artifacts; charlesfort; fortean; godsgravesglyphs; rocks
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To: HenryLeeII

Belated Barf Alert!

51 posted on 10/20/2003 1:48:16 PM PDT by w_over_w (No matter what happens this week . . . don't take the World Serious.)
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To: w_over_w
You're evil.
*chuckle*
I like it.
52 posted on 10/20/2003 1:58:13 PM PDT by Darksheare (Shadows of the mind, vague whispers of memory when we pass by. Held precious until new life begins.)
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To: yankeedame

Original model comes forth.

53 posted on 10/20/2003 2:13:16 PM PDT by Cooter
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To: yankeedame
read later
54 posted on 10/20/2003 2:13:55 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: Darksheare
You're evil.

No . . .
*But my coffee is*
8^)

55 posted on 10/20/2003 2:16:52 PM PDT by w_over_w (No matter what happens this week . . . don't take the World Serious.)
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To: mtbopfuyn
I once read a spoof of future archaeologists recovering the remains of our civilization and thinking the toilet seat was a kind of ritual necklace.

You're right, though. If it can't be explained it's automatically a "ritual object." It could never be Thag's attempt to impress cave girls or anything like that...

56 posted on 10/20/2003 2:23:03 PM PDT by Junior (Kinky is using a feather. Sick is using the whole chicken.)
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To: w_over_w
I'm told by those over at the FReeper Foxhole that my coffee is evil.
Been told I should start a coffee shop.
*chuckle*
Have coffee seperated by FR handle and the comments it receives...
57 posted on 10/20/2003 2:45:46 PM PDT by Darksheare (Shadows of the mind, vague whispers of memory when we pass by. Held precious until new life begins.)
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To: Junior
And teh toilet was supposedly a ritual urn.
Toot 'n C'mon's curse.
The story was in either Analog magazine or the other Sci-fi short story mag.
58 posted on 10/20/2003 2:53:01 PM PDT by Darksheare (Shadows of the mind, vague whispers of memory when we pass by. Held precious until new life begins.)
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To: evets
Wow! That's convincing! Send it to TIME right away!
59 posted on 10/20/2003 3:45:04 PM PDT by Paulus Invictus (RATs are scum!)
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To: yankeedame
Sign of yet another, even older lost race
Strange Ancient Race
Here we have an exquisitely carved likeness of an extinct race of humanoid. It is believed that the genetic memory is so strong in some people that they are, even today, compelled to draw a similar likeness to this face, that of our forefathers. I think that the picture is sufficient scientific evidence that I speak the truth ;-)
60 posted on 10/20/2003 3:48:12 PM PDT by Colorado Doug
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To: All
The archeaologist looked at his report. It was too brief and inconclusive but enough to get him a huge grant. Amen
61 posted on 10/20/2003 4:40:21 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: So Cal Rocket
Very funny. I think I saw some of these stick figures on some very old paper (from when my kids were in kindergarten). Homo juvenilis delinquentis.
62 posted on 10/20/2003 5:04:30 PM PDT by Rocky
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To: mtbopfuyn
Why does every discovery have to be sacred or related to rituals? Why can't it just be that BillyBob had nothing better to do than carve a face into a rock?

Right on! That very thought crosses my mind every time I read about prehistoric man, which is frequently. I was a professional illustrator for many years and still spend much of my free time doodling. Doodling, drawing for pleasure, is how most artists hone their skills and I'm sure our ancestors did the same.

63 posted on 10/20/2003 5:32:23 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono
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To: w_over_w
Ted Kennedy = Rock Man -> We have a winner. Now if we could just fossilize that old fossil, we'd be in business.
64 posted on 10/20/2003 5:36:35 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: John H K
Looks more like the Mother Teresa Cinnamon Roll.
65 posted on 10/20/2003 5:39:18 PM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: Colorado Doug
LOL!

Don't forget our Martian ancestors. (Note the big black alien eyes of their forefathers)


66 posted on 10/21/2003 12:03:35 AM PDT by lizma
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To: w_over_w
He has and continues to do so. Thanks. Mxxx
67 posted on 10/21/2003 6:22:19 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD is still in control!)
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To: yankeedame
"Pietro Gaietto says it shows two heads, facing outwards and joined at the neck".

First conjoined twins!
68 posted on 10/21/2003 6:37:53 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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this is sooo cool


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