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SoCal Fires Live Thread 10/28
10/28/03 | Myself

Posted on 10/27/2003 9:17:40 PM PST by spectr17

SoCal Fires Live Thread 10/28


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: firestorm; forestfire; michaeldobbs; prayerlist; socalfires; wildfire
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To: The KG9 Kid
They are showing the fire right up to Rim HS / hwy 18 on FOX News. Smoke everywhere.
1,351 posted on 10/28/2003 2:04:32 PM PST by sf4dubya
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To: al baby
Governor Goofy via phone on KNBC...
1,352 posted on 10/28/2003 2:05:31 PM PST by mhking
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To: All
news conf starting in 3-4 mins
1,353 posted on 10/28/2003 2:05:43 PM PST by wolficatZ (___><))))*>____\0/____/|____"flipper to the rescue...")
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Pictures of Big Bear on 9 long long lines of hundreds of cars, trucks with boats trying to get out.
1,354 posted on 10/28/2003 2:06:14 PM PST by WestCoastGal
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To: wolficatZ
Presser starting now.
1,355 posted on 10/28/2003 2:06:32 PM PST by mhking
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To: Silas
gonna ignore my own advise...and give some to you...kindly mind you...

loosen those birkenstocks...brew some herb tea of your choice...sit lotus style and chant Ommmmmm.....Ommmmm. We will get back to you later..don't call us..we will call you. Have a nice day. Cause the rest of us sure as hell are having a pretty rugged one.

1,356 posted on 10/28/2003 2:07:00 PM PST by Conservative4Ever (Wm. Wallace did not cry 'diversity' while being disemboweled.)
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To: wolficatZ; All
conf started..about the suspect(s) in old fire
1,357 posted on 10/28/2003 2:07:08 PM PST by wolficatZ (___><))))*>____\0/____/|____"flipper to the rescue...")
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To: WestCoastGal
They are pulling firefighters out in San Diego. Damn we need reinforcements. These heroes have been fighting for 72 hours straight, with no reinforcements, and their Monday lunches were delivered to them this afternoon. They can't go any more, 72 hours up, no food, and they are a danger to themselves.

Rich Hawkins Fire service chief says more homes will likely burn because of his decision but he can't push them any harder. They need 8-12 hours sleep to work off the 72 they put in.

1,358 posted on 10/28/2003 2:08:35 PM PST by dogbyte12
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scanner: people in woods with weapons?
1,359 posted on 10/28/2003 2:08:44 PM PST by sf4dubya
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To: wolficatZ; All
Something about suspect(s) in woods with weapons on Bear Lake scanner. No other details. Did anyone hear that?
1,361 posted on 10/28/2003 2:09:46 PM PST by wolficatZ (___><))))*>____\0/____/|____"flipper to the rescue...")
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To: mhking
boy howdie...
1,362 posted on 10/28/2003 2:10:04 PM PST by Conservative4Ever (Wm. Wallace did not cry 'diversity' while being disemboweled.)
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To: lainie
It is truly beyond comprehension listening to DiFi and Boxer. I shake my head thinking....."I must be hearing things."

There are also Dims talking about paying people to clear the forests....more tax dollars at work. Call me crazy.....but, if Americans were allowed to use the resources already available; fallen trees, dead trees and brush, maybe the fires would be a lot less frequent.

1,363 posted on 10/28/2003 2:10:08 PM PST by BossLady
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To: dogbyte12
Why haven't the Marines been called in?
1,364 posted on 10/28/2003 2:10:30 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: wolficatZ
Hunting Rifles
1,365 posted on 10/28/2003 2:11:08 PM PST by tazman3
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To: mhking
Mount Palomar to be evacuated now....per msnbc
1,366 posted on 10/28/2003 2:11:08 PM PST by Merovingian
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To: sf4dubya
Yeah, I heard that. Also, just now, she asked if it was a possible suspect in the arson. Right?
1,367 posted on 10/28/2003 2:11:10 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (Hi spectr17)
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Does anyone think they are doing raw footage on MSNBC/KNBC till the have a reporter in place? I am not getting any sound.
1,368 posted on 10/28/2003 2:11:48 PM PST by CathyRyan
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To: sf4dubya
i just heared that too!
1,369 posted on 10/28/2003 2:11:58 PM PST by meanie monster (hooked on phonics werked for me.)
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To: sandyeggo
My brother-in-law lives on Old Cobble Road. Anyone know if fire is in that area? Yesterday he said it was about 5 miles away. They have their cars packed up in case they need to leave. But they were figuring winds coming off the ocean would make the situation better today.
1,370 posted on 10/28/2003 2:12:09 PM PST by Abigail Adams
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To: meanie monster
heard
1,372 posted on 10/28/2003 2:14:19 PM PST by meanie monster (hooked on phonics werked for me.)
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To: CathyRyan
KNBC cut away from the press conference to show Chuck Henry walking up to the camera: "Hi!" complete with goofy grin.

He's in Sky Crest; and it is not looking good behind him.

1,373 posted on 10/28/2003 2:14:19 PM PST by mhking
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To: Abigail Adams
Just heard on KFI that the fire is moving away from highway 18 now and back into itself. That sounds like some good news?
1,374 posted on 10/28/2003 2:14:20 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: sandyeggo
Bookmarking my spot. And, thanks Sandyeggo for posting that great map.
1,375 posted on 10/28/2003 2:14:30 PM PST by Bush_Democrat (Now EX-democrat!!)
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To: mhking
bustamoron is at rim of the world HS, just what they need.
1,376 posted on 10/28/2003 2:15:47 PM PST by markman46
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To: All
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/fires/031027fire_blog.html

Evacuation update

2:11 p.m.

The evacuations at Palomar Mountain are now mandatory. Residents can leave via the South Grade or East Grade. The evacuation center is is located at Valley Center High: 31322 Cole Grade Road.

Mandatory evacuations in Julian, Pine Hills and Wynola. Evacuating Descanso, Pine Valley and Guatay.

Encinitas update

1:58 p.m.

Broadcast reports show firefighters hosing down the remnants of a small fire in a blackened gully near the Leucadia Boulevard exit along Interstate 5 in Encinitas.

1,377 posted on 10/28/2003 2:15:50 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: markman46
bustamoron is at rim of the world HS, just what they need.

If he REALLY wants to help, slap a helmet on his head and shove a hose in his hand.

1,379 posted on 10/28/2003 2:17:28 PM PST by mhking
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To: Pukin Dog
Tell me you DONT keep a log book of times that you were ignored that reaches back a year. Please tell me.

ROFLMBO! Okay, I admit it. I have a list in my head of FReepers I've put on "ignore." I'm considering recording it on paper AND splitting it into "ignore on this issue" and "ignore forever!" YIKES!

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1,381 posted on 10/28/2003 2:17:55 PM PST by viaveritasvita ("When Love takes you in, everything changes.")
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To: Bush_Democrat
John and Ken talking about why no one bothered to send "Roach Coaches" (rolling taquerias) or pizza trucks out to these fire fighters every few hours. It is INSANNE that we treat these heroes this way. These are the things we GLADLY pay taxes for. (Not that we should not also make their jobs easier by allowing frequent brush-clearing and tree-chopping to PREVENT them having to work like this. It's not about using PUBLIC funds for the clearing, it's about allowing anyone to clear public lands to the point of fire safety.)
1,382 posted on 10/28/2003 2:18:15 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: wolficatZ
MSNBC feed looks like a loop. Now just color bars. Could be interference from that new large solar storm arriving a few hours early.

What I saw from the tape was informative, though. You could see the dead pines due to the bark beetles, a situation I am familar with out here in NM. Our subdivision developer made a decision about 12 months ago to fight them in the common area with pesticides applied to the tree bark in fall and spring. Has worked fine and experts say only need to do it in spring in future. Had a sprayer charge $2 per tree on the homesites which was worth it, given I have mature trees maybe up to 100 years old. A couple of folks didn't spray and have high tree mortality. Ours is a green subdivision in a sea of brown trees.
1,383 posted on 10/28/2003 2:18:44 PM PST by CedarDave (I'm a recovering environmentalist - does anyone know of a 12-step program I can join?)
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To: mhking
how about if they make him inhale they will put the whole works out all the way to the border.. LOL
1,384 posted on 10/28/2003 2:18:52 PM PST by markman46
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To: polemikos
Ping to #1377
1,385 posted on 10/28/2003 2:19:50 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (Hi spectr17)
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To: markman46
bustamoron is at rim of the world HS, just what they need.

Tough love for the firefighters.

1,386 posted on 10/28/2003 2:20:43 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle
if we had the resources they would be rotated in and out of the line, and have a hot & cot, but dimwatt cut the CDF $$$
1,387 posted on 10/28/2003 2:21:00 PM PST by markman46
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To: markman46
ROFL! It sure would clear the air down here in Long Beach!
1,388 posted on 10/28/2003 2:21:39 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: sandyeggo
Caller on KOGO - lives in Guatay near the Ace Hardware. No electricity, no help, no planes over mts. Looks like they are going to start setting backfires. Fire is very close. Says he is not leaving. Oh, no, guy has brain cancer and says it doesn't matter to me. Says they could have done something about this fire. 15 fire trucks pulled in 30 minutes ago. Fire moving to Julian - 22 miles away. Fire on East side of 79 North of 8. Coming towards Guatay - he is looking north and west.

What a call. says FF's are doing a great job, and he will leave if he has to.
1,389 posted on 10/28/2003 2:22:08 PM PST by baseballmom
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To: sandyeggo
(Aunt) Santee (Atlas View Drive)

(Cousin) North of Lakeside (On the other side of the hill west of Viejas)

(Uncle) Between 67 and Lake Jennings

I was apalled to see the damage to Crest. I have a lot of friends that live in Apline.

I grew up in North Clairemont (Madison '80). My Mother-in-law is still there (Baxter Drive). A lot of relatives in North Clairemont. My parents are out in Borrego.

This has been a very hard week. I feel like I should be doing something, not just stuck here in my cube, reading the occaisional nutter post and praying for my loved ones still fortunate enough to live in my hometown.

However, my week has been a trip to the beach compared to the thousands that have lost loved ones, homes, and sentimental possessions. Not to mention the heroes out fighting this thing.
1,390 posted on 10/28/2003 2:22:18 PM PST by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat)
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To: markman46
Chuck Henry on KNBC: "Oh really!? Cool! Oh, we don't have enough cable..."

"Uh oh, we're in trouble..."

1,391 posted on 10/28/2003 2:22:29 PM PST by mhking
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To: lainie
At the risk of incurring the rath of the thread, I'll take up the subject, but only to a limited extent.

I'm a lifelong Calif native, and as long as I can remember, a significant number (50%?) of these fires are started by whackjob arsonists.

In fact, I believe the suspects behind the big Malibu fire back in '93 were two guys trying to get on the fire dept and wanted to look like heroes by helping put out the fire.

While I don't think (at the moment at least) that these fires are anything other than just standard Oct Santa Ana fires, even the dumbest terrorist can clearly see the effect they have on people, nature and the economy.

For a $10 investment in road flares, two guys can take a nice pleasure drive through the mountains the next time we have some Santa Anas - one guy at the wheel and the other lighting and throwing flares out the window.

Don't think that state and Fed officials don't realize this; if not this time, who knows next time?

1,392 posted on 10/28/2003 2:23:43 PM PST by Snerfling
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To: sandyeggo
Well, it's west of Genesee Ave., east of Mnt Acadia Blvd., south of 274, and north-east of Tecolote Canyon Golf Course. That's as much as I can tell you from looking at a map. I've only been there once.
1,393 posted on 10/28/2003 2:23:50 PM PST by Abigail Adams
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To: CedarDave
chopper cam feed shows fire along 18, not sure exactly where; just saw an a-26 firebomber fly by under him.
icredible video, they seem to be holding the line on 18..he just said rimforest.
1,394 posted on 10/28/2003 2:24:03 PM PST by wolficatZ (___><))))*>____\0/____/|____"flipper to the rescue...")
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To: L,TOWM
Are you able to reach your folks in Borrego by telephone?
1,395 posted on 10/28/2003 2:25:04 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: wolficatZ
USS john c stennis - will return to port so sailors can be with families to assess situation and do what needs to be done before returning to training. Per LT Comm Guyson(sp) of USN.
1,397 posted on 10/28/2003 2:25:34 PM PST by baseballmom
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scanner: 2 people running around FF turnouts and they are not FF
1,398 posted on 10/28/2003 2:25:37 PM PST by sf4dubya
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To: wolficatZ
Watching on KNBC; Governor Goofy is back on the phone rambling on about something or other...
1,399 posted on 10/28/2003 2:25:40 PM PST by mhking
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To: wolficatZ
can you repost the link for the live feed?

Thanks. MSNBC keeps cutting it off, and going to other stuff.
1,400 posted on 10/28/2003 2:26:26 PM PST by Johnny Gage (I'm like a Super Hero..... only with no powers and no motivation.)
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