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ATF Allows Sale of Handgun Disguised as a Pen Despite Law Enforcement Warning
Join Together Online ^ | 10/28/2003 | Violence Policy Center

Posted on 10/28/2003 12:51:46 PM PST by jdege

ATF Allows Sale of Handgun Disguised as a Pen Despite Law Enforcement Warning

10/28/2003

Press Release
Violence Policy Center
1140 19th Street, NW
Washington, DC 20036
www.vpc.org

Contact:
Jennifer Friedman
Phone: 202-822-8200 x122

Washington, DC - The U.S. Justice Department's Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) is allowing the sale to the general public of a small-caliber handgun disguised as a pen -- despite the clear public safety threat such "pen guns" represent -- the Violence Policy Center (VPC) warned today.

The public safety threat posed by the Stinger Pengun is made clear in an October 2002 "Officer Safety Bulletin" regarding the weapon issued by the U.S. Air Force Office of Special Investigations based at Andrews Air Force Base. The national alert was apparently distributed to government, military, and local law enforcement agencies. More recently, in August 2003, the Department of Homeland Security warned that terrorists might attempt to use ordinary items to conceal explosives or weapons -- which is the exact purpose of the pen gun.

Manufactured by Stinger Manufacturing Corporation in Sault Sainte Marie, Michigan, the Stinger Pengun is a single-shot pistol disguised as a pen. It is 5.6 inches long, weighs only five ounces when empty, and retails for $250. It is currently available in 17 and 22 caliber, and the company's web site ( www.stingerpengun.com) promises that more calibers are "Coming Soon!" A past advertisement on the web site states that the gun "Transforms From A 'Pen' To A Legal Pistol In 2 Seconds." Promised soon-to-be marketed accessories include an 18-inch "sniper barrel" and attachable "heart dagger." Stinger also manufactures the "Survivor Knifegun," a handgun concealed in a pocket knife with blade. The $375 "knifegun" -- promoted as "The Pistol With A Sharp Edge" -- is 3.7 inches long, 1.09 inches wide, and weighs 12 ounces. (Pictures of both are available at www.vpc.org/press/0310pengun.htm) According to documents obtained by the Violence Policy Center from ATF under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), Stinger was incorporated in February 2002 by Canadian citizen Marc Lefebvre.

VPC Executive Director Josh Sugarmann states, "ATF and the Justice Department have been put on notice that the Stinger Pengun represents a clear threat to public safety and law enforcement. ATF clearly has the authority -- and legal responsibility -- to reclassify Stinger's pen and knife guns under federal law to tightly restrict them and should do so immediately."

According to Stinger, both guns have been approved for sale by ATF and under federal law are sold with only the same restrictions that apply to standard handguns. Advertising on Stinger's web site boasts, "The Stinger Pengun is the only legal pengun in the world" and promises that the gun opens up "A whole new world of possibilities." This is in spite of the fact that, according to ATF, under federal law "Gadget-type firearms and 'pen' guns which fire fixed ammunition" are classified as an "Any Other Weapon" (AOW) under the National Firearms Act of 1934 (NFA) and come under the NFA's strict licensing and registration regimen. To purchase an "Any Other Weapon," the buyer must go through an extended and extremely detailed background check, register the weapon, and receive approval from local law enforcement. ATF distinguishes the Stinger Pengun and Knifegun from other such weapons and treats them as standard handguns simply because in order to be fired, the "grip," or handle, of the gun must be angled to its barrel.

"This is a distinction without a difference," adds Sugarmann. "It is almost unfathomable the depths to which the Ashcroft Justice Department will sink to carry out the bidding of the gun industry and its lobbying allies. Stinger's pen and knife guns can be re-classified tomorrow to protect public safety on the street, in our offices, and in the air. And if the Ashcroft Justice Department truly cares about public safety, it will do so immediately."

Date of Release: October 28, 2003


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; bang; banglist; rkba

http://stingerpengun.com/stinger.htm

The Stinger™ Pengun is the only legal pengun in the world. It was classified a pistol by the ATF in 1991. It is not classified as AOW or under NFA rules. The ultimate in concealed "back up" weapons, the Stinger is an engineering work of art. The fit, finish, and function will make the Stinger one of your most prized collectable handguns.

Amazing, isn't it, how Ashcroft is responsible for a decision made 10 years before he became AG?

1 posted on 10/28/2003 12:51:47 PM PST by jdege
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To: *bang_list
Bang!
2 posted on 10/28/2003 12:52:01 PM PST by jdege
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To: jdege
The pen is mightier than the sword!
3 posted on 10/28/2003 12:53:55 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Guns!)
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To: jdege
I saw the ads in some gun mags last month.
-- Wouldn't surprise me if it's a sting type operation by the ATF goons..
4 posted on 10/28/2003 12:58:03 PM PST by tpaine (I'm trying to be 'Mr Nice Guy', but Arnie won, & politics as usual lost. Yo!)
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To: jdege
Say yah to da UP, eh?
5 posted on 10/28/2003 12:58:17 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("I don't want to Raise Taxes" "I think everything must be looked at" - Jennifer Granholm. (D))
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To: jdege
Wow! Cool! Thanks for the heads up, Jennifer! Gotta get me one of those!
6 posted on 10/28/2003 1:02:09 PM PST by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: jdege

7 posted on 10/28/2003 1:03:55 PM PST by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: PoorMuttly
Pinging Muttly! Here's a nifty new thingy you'll probably be wanting.
8 posted on 10/28/2003 1:04:01 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: tpaine
Not only an ATF sting, they probably called VPC to have them write this.
Expect to hear about this from all the media.
9 posted on 10/28/2003 1:04:46 PM PST by Zathras
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To: jdege
"This is a distinction without a difference,"

Yeah, like thumbhole stocks, black parkerizing and slings.

10 posted on 10/28/2003 1:06:53 PM PST by Cobra Scott
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To: Luke Skyfreeper
Probably not recommended for those of us who tend to chew on their pens...
11 posted on 10/28/2003 1:07:22 PM PST by AngryJawa ("The bang is great, but the shockwave is where it’s at.")
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To: AngryJawa
oh yeah, and the VPC can bite me too.
12 posted on 10/28/2003 1:08:28 PM PST by AngryJawa ("The bang is great, but the shockwave is where it’s at.")
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To: jdege
Yes, and last time I checked the ATF was part of the Treasury Dept., not Justice. Or is it in Homeland Security now? In any case, it's not under Ashcroft.
13 posted on 10/28/2003 1:10:07 PM PST by Hugin
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To: AngryJawa
Bwahahahaha! Chewchewchew- BOOM! Ooops!
14 posted on 10/28/2003 1:13:25 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: jdege
The 9mm Liberator looks interesting - if it's more than a single shot!

http://www.stingerpengun.com/
15 posted on 10/28/2003 1:15:37 PM PST by SwinneySwitch (Freedom isn't Free - Support the Troops and Veterans!!)
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To: isthisnickcool
The pen is mightier than the sword!

Not if the other guy has a knifegun. Checked it out on their website listed in the article...it is cooler than your nick, LOL!

16 posted on 10/28/2003 1:16:30 PM PST by ravingnutter
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To: tpaine
-- Wouldn't surprise me if it's a sting type operation by the ATF goons..

Even so, they are cool pens.

17 posted on 10/28/2003 1:16:52 PM PST by JeepInMazar (www.answering-islam.org)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Seems to me pen guns have been marketed before...
18 posted on 10/28/2003 1:16:55 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: jdege
I've had one of these (made by Braveman) in .22LR and 22mag for the last eight years. It shoots pretty well but does "kick" my thumb pretty hard. I once fired a 4" group with it at 25 yards. They are great for open-carry states since any pocket protector becomes a holster!
19 posted on 10/28/2003 1:23:39 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: SwinneySwitch
They show 3 bullets with it. I was wondering too.
20 posted on 10/28/2003 1:23:48 PM PST by stevio
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To: jdege
Speaking from experience the knife gun is kind of nifty, we have them for sale at our range. As a tackle box gun it is perfect, put a bird shot shell in the pipe and toss it in the box. Or put it on your belt in the handy included sheath. It is however it two handed operation to get it into firing mode(for me anyway) and the trigger is a bit on the heavy side (squeeze trigger). This would be one of those nifty little gadgets I would want in my backpack when out in the boonies..it may not be the most accurate piece of equipment but I'll wager I could still bag a rabbit with it If my life depended on it. Just my two bits
21 posted on 10/28/2003 1:24:42 PM PST by BudgieRamone (Gimme a bottle of ANYTHING! .......and a GLAZED doughnut!........TO GO!!!!!)
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To: tpaine
Call me stupid but how could they charge me with a crime for buying something legal?
22 posted on 10/28/2003 1:25:48 PM PST by MikeWUSAF (I am proudly featured on U.S. Rep Rob Portman's homepage: http://www.house.gov/portman/)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
It IS a great gizmo. However, considering how long it takes to get it into firing configuration, and then only one, wimpy shot...may as well draw a proper gun. That's why Muttly decided not to get one a while back...and just continued to wrap his companion in paper money, and stuff it in his pocket...as usual. A Muttly Paperweight...that's all.

But...since Muttly now notice the handy clip on said gizmo...

....now Muttly WANT !!!!!

(always has been legal, as far as I know. Crybabies with not-so-secret agenda are icky)
23 posted on 10/28/2003 1:35:39 PM PST by PoorMuttly (Operation Enduring Muttly)
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To: ravingnutter
Leave it to some idiot to bring a pen-gun to a knife-gun fight! ;-)
24 posted on 10/28/2003 1:52:51 PM PST by Beelzebubba
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Seems to me pen guns have been marketed before...


Yes, but as "AOW"s that require an ATF beckground check and $5 transfer tax. The reason this was approved as a pistol and not an AOW, is that is can not be fired unless it is in the angled configuration illustrated, like like other pistols. It simply straightens for storage.

I haven't fired mine yet, but they are finely machined, and operate smoothly.

You know that VPC is hurting when this is all they have to do. It should provide significantly increased profits for the innovators at Stinger!
25 posted on 10/28/2003 1:58:34 PM PST by Beelzebubba
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To: jdege
small-caliber handgun disguised as a pen

First they complain about "high powered assault weapons", the .50 caliber rifles as "too powerfull", then small affordable handguns as "too cheap" and now a small caliber pengun as either too small or too wimpy, it's not clear which. Are these people never happy?

That's a rhetorical question of course. The message becomes clearer every day. They are not happy with any guns in the hand of the rabble, and will not be happy until ordinary folk can not own guns at all. Some aren't too keen on the police and military having weapons either. Their own bodyguards (or in rare cases themselves) is another story of course.

26 posted on 10/28/2003 2:06:42 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Hugin
Yes, and last time I checked the ATF was part of the Treasury Dept., not Justice

You haven't checked recently then. When the Homeland Security Department was created, BATF was renamed BATFE and moved from Treasury to Justice. Thereby ending the fiction that they are a tax collection agency and that the NFA law is merely an exercise of Congress power to tax. Even it if were, that power does not overide the Second Amendment, but rather the opposite. The RKBA is protected by an amendment, which overides the original Consitution should there be a conflict.

27 posted on 10/28/2003 2:14:19 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Hugin
Yes, and last time I checked the ATF was part of the Treasury Dept., not Justice

You haven't checked recently then. When the Homeland Security Department was created, BATF was renamed BATFE and moved from Treasury to Justice. Thereby ending the fiction that they are a tax collection agency and that the NFA law is merely an exercise of Congress power to tax. Even it if were, that power does not overide the Second Amendment, but rather the opposite. The RKBA is protected by an amendment, which overides the original Consitution should there be a conflict.

28 posted on 10/28/2003 2:14:20 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: El Gato
What I tell you three times is true?
29 posted on 10/28/2003 2:15:43 PM PST by jdege
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To: MikeWUSAF; tpaine
MikeWUSAF asks:   "Call me stupid but how could they charge me with a crime for buying something legal?"

Courts do not allow state law to trump federal law, but it does allow states to write and enforce laws that are stricter than federal regulations. Such is the case with the "pen gun" and the California Penal Code.

CALIFORNIA PENAL CODE
SECTION 12020

(a) Any person in this state who does any of the following is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or in the state prison:
      (1) Manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, lends, or possesses any cane gun or wallet gun, any undetectable firearm, any firearm which is not immediately recognizable as a firearm, any camouflaging firearm container, any ammunition which contains or consists of any flechette dart, any bullet containing or carrying an explosive agent, any ballistic knife, any multiburst trigger activator, any nunchaku, any short-barreled shotgun, any short-barreled rifle, any metal knuckles, any belt buckle knife, any leaded cane, any zip gun, any shuriken, any unconventional pistol, any lipstick case knife, any cane sword, any shobi-zue, any air gauge knife, any writing pen knife, any metal military practice handgrenade or metal replica handgrenade, or any instrument or weapon of the kind commonly known as a blackjack, slungshot, billy, sandclub, sap, or sandbag. [snip]

[source]
Section 12020 is likely one of the most despised laws in our state penal code system. I only posted one tiny portion of it. Click on the link to the source and read it in its entirety and it'll make you want to puke.

Regards,

Boot Hill

30 posted on 10/28/2003 3:45:04 PM PST by Boot Hill
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To: jdege
Thanks for posting this. Anything from Josh and his VPC is usually good for a chuckle.

The NRA site has a bit of good news about the anti-gun lawsuit against manufacturers, etc from St. Louis here:

http://www.semissourian.com/story.html$rec=123152

I haven't bothered to learn to post yet. Would you do me a favor and post it properly. I didn't notice it on the bang list.
31 posted on 10/28/2003 8:10:25 PM PST by neverdem (Say a prayer for New York both for it's lefty statism and the probability the city will be hit again)
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To: Boot Hill
Thanks for the info.

Seems like entrapment to me.

I was actually planning on buying one of these and now I'm having second thoughts.
32 posted on 10/29/2003 9:43:44 AM PST by MikeWUSAF (I am proudly featured on U.S. Rep Rob Portman's homepage: http://www.house.gov/portman/)
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