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Editorial: Open book for hidden guns
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel ^ | Oct. 27, 2003 | Editorial

Posted on 10/28/2003 2:57:10 PM PST by Monitor

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To: spunkets
Good find bump!! Who'd a thunk the leftist media would lie? Shocking, just shocking!
21 posted on 10/28/2003 4:54:28 PM PST by Klickitat
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To: Klickitat
Rodney Dangerfield dug it up. I just had to post it, because it shows how much the grabbers lie.
22 posted on 10/28/2003 4:57:13 PM PST by spunkets
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To: Sabretooth
The leftists want the list of CCW permit holders so they can harass them, pure and simple. Permit holders will be fired, demoted, and denied access to public services if they get away with this. Since the Left is losing the debate over CCW, harassment is the only thing they have left.
23 posted on 10/28/2003 4:57:26 PM PST by the lone wolf (Good Luck, and watch out for stobor.)
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To: the lone wolf
The leftists want the list of CCW permit holders so they can harass them, pure and simple.

That's my thinking as well. The Milwaukee Urinal wants to cross reference everyone accused of so much as a parking violation with the CCW database.

"Josh Johnson, a concealed weapons permit holder, was cited Monday afternoon for going 62 in a 55 mile per hour zone. Jim Fendry, director of the Wisconsin Pro-Gun Movement, could not be reached for comment."

24 posted on 10/28/2003 5:36:22 PM PST by Monitor
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To: spunkets

25 posted on 10/28/2003 6:00:34 PM PST by B4Ranch (“In certain drastic circumstances, profanity offers relief denied by prayer".....Mark Twain)
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To: B4Ranch
What is being displayed on the ordinate?
26 posted on 10/28/2003 6:11:20 PM PST by spunkets
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To: Monitor
So why is the name of the article's writer such a big secret?
27 posted on 10/28/2003 6:52:07 PM PST by Shooter 2.5
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To: Monitor
Also, the Violence Policy Center, which supports more firearm regulation, has used public records to point out that the authorities in Texas arrest an average of two concealed-carry licensees a month for especially violent crimes, such as homicide, kidnapping and rape.

What the lying bastards fail to point out is that the rate of violent arrests for CCW holders is something like 1% to 10% of the general population.

I did the stats one day to determine what the effect on crime rates would be if everyone was as law abiding as those with CCW permits.

Based on the stats on the Texas DPS page, there would be about a 70% reduction in overall crime if the general population was as law-abiding as Texas CCW holders.

28 posted on 10/28/2003 6:52:26 PM PST by Mulder (Fight the future)
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To: Monitor
The Milwaukee Urinal wants to cross reference everyone accused of so much as a parking violation with the CCW database.

One of the "enemies of the Constitution" even suggested that the names of CCW holders be made public so that employers could force them to surrender the permit as a condition of employment.

That is how the tyrants think.

29 posted on 10/28/2003 6:54:38 PM PST by Mulder (Fight the future)
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To: Travis McGee; All
You're right. We need the name of the idiot that wrote this article.

Does anyone have any idea who may have wrote it?
30 posted on 10/28/2003 6:58:07 PM PST by Shooter 2.5
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To: Monitor; cavtrooper21
Also, the Violence Policy Center, which supports more firearm regulation, has used public records to point out that the authorities in Texas arrest an average of two concealed-carry licensees a month for especially violent crimes, such as homicide, kidnapping and rape. And what percentage of those arrests are actually prosecuted? What percentage are arrested as a matter of course, leaving the DA to determine if the shooting was not a homicide, but was in fact self defense, resulting in the charges being dropped?

According to the DPS website statistics available online, VERY FEW TX CHL holders are CONVICTED of much of anything. Here is the lastest data posted: http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administration/crime_records/chl/convrates.htm VPC is full of BS.

31 posted on 10/28/2003 8:23:38 PM PST by Vic3O3 (Jeremiah 31:16-17 (KJV))
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To: Vic3O3
Thank you!
32 posted on 10/28/2003 8:26:36 PM PST by cavtrooper21 (Stand and Deliver!! One round volly fire by Ranks....... FIRE!)
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To: Monitor
"The reasons the bill's advocates give for the secrecy don't track with reality. Minnesota law professor Joseph Olson asked rhetorically: "Do you really want to give burglars a list of whose homes to burglarize?"

I hope that law professor get's some grief for this. I thought the reason for privacy (not secerecy) was so the government itself would know which homes had guns.

My Dad's cousin in Norway has one registered gun (an old shotgun). His other weapons are private. He fought with the resistance in WW II. The first thing the Nazis did was go to each town hall and look up the list of guns and go get them.
33 posted on 10/28/2003 8:51:34 PM PST by geopyg (Democracy, whiskey, sexy)
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To: Shooter 2.5; archy
If this was written under the byline of their editorial board, then they have all "signed off" on it, and should all be outed as per reply #11.

I'm sure the names of their editorial board must be listed on the paper's masthead.

34 posted on 10/28/2003 9:15:34 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
Excellent idea.

Kaiser, Martin, Editor:
mkaiser@journalsentinel.com
Stanley, George, Managing Editor:
gstanley@journalsentinel.com
Hinkley, Gerry, Deputy Managing Editor, Local News:
ghinkley@journalsentinel.com
McNeal, Christine, Deputy Managing Editor, Weekend News and Presentation:
cmcneal@journalsentinel.com
Krause, Marilyn, Senior Editor - Administration:
35 posted on 10/28/2003 9:19:31 PM PST by Shooter 2.5
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To: Shooter 2.5
So why is the name of the article's writer such a big secret?

Because it's an editorial, written by the editorial board. None of the other editorials in that paper list an author either.

36 posted on 10/28/2003 9:21:58 PM PST by Monitor
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To: Shooter 2.5
There ya go!
37 posted on 10/28/2003 9:35:13 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Monitor
I was hoping I didn't need the sarcasm tag.
38 posted on 10/28/2003 9:35:22 PM PST by Shooter 2.5
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To: Monitor
So why is the name of the article's writer such a big secret?

Because it's an editorial, written by the editorial board. None of the other editorials in that paper list an author either.

It goes a little further than that, per following. But interest in those responsible for the MJS attack on Americans needs to extend to the ownership as well; they're the ones who direct the editorial voice.

Once, it was not that way, but the MJS is not the only American institution that's suffered from the rot and decline of the past few decades. Time for a housecleaning; we have rats among the foundation.

Steven J. Smith -
Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer
Journal Communications

Douglas G. Kiel -
President, Journal Communications
Vice Chairman and CEO, Journal Broadcast Group Inc.

David J. Drury -
President & Chief Executive Officer, Poblocki and Sons LLC

James L. Forbes -
Chairman, Badger Meter, Inc.

Cynthia L. Gault -
Account Executive, WTMJ-TV

Roger D. Peirce -
Retired CEO, Super Steel Products Corporation

David D. Reszel -
< Advertising Special Sections Manager, Journal Sentinel Inc.

Mary Ellen Stanek -
Managing Director & Chief Investment Officer,
Baird Advisors, Robert W. Baird & Co. Inc

Taking Liberties - by Joel McNally

The End of a Noble Experiment Profit has become priority at Journal Communications

It was a noble experiment. It produced what was once one of the top 10 newspapers in the country right here in Milwaukee. And now, apparently, it's over.

Journal Communications will publicly sell $250 million in stock on the open market. It is the end of a unique experiment in American business established by publisher Harry J. Grant in 1937 that allowed ordinary employees down to and including the cleaning staff to own the company for which they worked.

Ending the employee stock trust also signals the beginning of the end for local ownership of Wisconsin's largest newspaper and media company.

The public probably doesn't realize yet how much it stands to lose or even how much it already has lost. But while it lasted, employee ownership helped make The Milwaukee Journal one of the best newspapers in the United States.

That's not just an idle boast. For years, Time Magazine routinely included The Milwaukee Journal on its list of the top 10 newspapers in the country. Top 10 lists compiled by professionals within the newspaper industry did the same.

To give an indication of how far the mighty have fallen, a couple of years after merger created the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, Columbia Journalism Review compiled a roundup of America's best newspapers. It included 115 daily newspapers. The Journal Sentinel was not one of the top 115.

What went wrong at the Journal Sentinel is a case study of what has gone wrong in American business. Visionaries who care about anything other than short-term profits are no longer welcome.

Grant's original vision of employee ownership was based on the idea that employees who owned a piece of the rock would be more committed to the long-term success of the company and producing a high quality product.

The excellence of The Milwaukee Journal was a perfect example. A newspaper in Milwaukee, vaguely located somewhere in the Midwest, attracted and retained top reporting talent.

Harry Pease, a science reporter who produced some of the best writing in the country on the U.S. space program, once turned down a job offer from The New York Times for financial reasons. The nation's leading newspaper couldn't match the equity he'd built up in Journal stock.

Many other top reporters came and stayed in Milwaukee, enabling The Milwaukee Journal to win five Pulitzer Prizes.

Merger Marked the End of an Era

The merger of The Journal and the Sentinel in 1995 really was an announcement that the philosophy of retaining the most accomplished journalistic talent for the newspaper had ended. Those who were fired or pushed into retirement in that merger included many of the most experienced, award-winning reporters. Management opted to keep journalists who were younger and cheaper.

(Truth in labeling: I was one of the experienced, national award-winning columnists they opted not to keep.)

The newspaper industry was going through the same transformation as other businesses in America. No one wanted people to work their entire lives at one company any more. If people did that, the company would have to pay them higher salaries and provide them with more benefits.

The new business model was to hire cheap, retain people for a few years and then show them the door. Rewarding experienced employees for producing the highest quality product was a quaint, old-fashioned and totally outmoded notion. A lesser product produced at lower cost could produce higher profits.

The newspaper got rid of exactly the employees Grant's stock plan was intended to retain. Short-term employees, who did not see their futures tied to the company, had much less interest in even acquiring stock. At the time the company decided to sell stock publicly, 10% of the stock had accumulated in its treasury unsold.

One reason the company believes its stock will be attractive on the open market right now is that communications companies are expecting a windfall over the next few years. That's because the Republican majority on the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) is expected to vote in June to remove restrictions on one company buying up large numbers of radio and television stations in a single market.

Journal executives may be right that such a move would allow them to make out like bandits. But it is terrible public policy to encourage a few large companies to further concentrate their control over the media.

Wisconsin Sen. Russ Feingold already has a bill in Congress to try to undo some of the wreckage of the radio industry caused by the FCC deregulation allowing Clear Channel to grab up more than 1,200 stations across the country and turn them into automated musical pablum and political jingoism.

Harry Grant made lots of money by creating a great newspaper with an employee ownership plan that rewarded workers and served the public interest. His modern-day successors cleverly plot how to make even more money by ending employee ownership, reducing quality and totally ignoring the public interest.


39 posted on 10/28/2003 9:42:34 PM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: Travis McGee
Steven J. Smith -
Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer
Journal Communications

Steven J. Smith joined the company in 1976 as a salesperson at WTMJ Radio. He was named general manager of WKTI-FM in 1980. Three years later, he was named vice president and general manager of WTMJ Radio and WKTI-FM. In 1985, Smith was appointed vice president and general manager of KTNV-TV, the company's ABC-TV affiliate in Las Vegas. In 1986 he was named president of WTMJ, Inc. In 1992, Smith became president of Journal Communications. He became Chairman of the Board and CEO of Journal Communications in 1998. He is also chairman of the Journal Broadcast Group, Inc., and Journal Communications' six other companies.

Douglas G. Kiel -
President, Journal Communications
Vice Chairman and CEO, Journal Broadcast Group Inc.

Douglas G. Kiel joined the company in 1986 as vice president and general manager of WKTI-FM. In January 1990, he was named executive vice president of radio for WTMJ, Inc. Kiel was named president of WTMJ, Inc., in 1992. WTMJ, Inc., became the Journal Broadcast Group during his tenure as president. From 1992 to 1995, he also served as general manager of WTMJ-TV. In 1998, Kiel was named president of Journal Communications. He is vice chairman of the Journal Broadcast Group, Inc., and in December 2001 he assumed the additional responsibilities of serving as CEO of the Journal Broadcast Group, Inc.

40 posted on 10/28/2003 9:52:37 PM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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