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Southern California Fires -- Live Thread 10/29

Posted on 10/28/2003 11:00:04 PM PST by lainie

Cal Fire Maps

http://wildfire.cr.usgs.gov/ca_geomac/viewer.htm

http://www.incidentcontrol.com

http://www.firedetect.ssd.nesdis.noaa.gov/Run.htm

Live online scanner feeds for fire, cops, CDF, air attack

http://www.live365.com/stations/kb6jag

FYI, this one gives pop ups if you use it.

No pop ups on this feed

http://www.police-scanner.info/livescan.htm

Another live scanner feed.

Click on Big Bear Feed

http://www.compucations.com/nuke/html/modules.php?name=LiveScanners

another live feed for socal, Verdugo Fire Communications Center

http://verdugo.ci.glendale.ca.us/radio.html

Simi Valley fire scanner

http://www.shoutcast.com/directory/?s=scanner&numresult=100&x=34&y=9

http://209.153.152.2:8888 lots of scanner chatter in Ventura county

CHP Dispatch

http://cad.chp.ca.gov/

CDF AIR CHANNELS

Red - 151.220 - Air to ground units Blue - 151.280 - Air to air Green - 151.295 - Air to air Yellow - 151.310 - Air to air Victor - 122.925 AM - Air to air for contract helicopters

List of channels for SoCal

http://www.qsl.net/ke6alv/

Get a copy of Police call for when you're mobile.

http://www.policecall.com/

San Bernardino National Forest

171.475 mhz and 172.225

123.9750 National Air Tanker Base Freq. 135.9750 Air ops 151.2200 CDF Red Air to Ground 151.2650 CDF Region 151.3100 CDF Air Tactics 6 151.3550 CDF Command Net 1 154.2650 OES White Fire 2 154.2800 OES White Fire 1 154.2950 OES White Fire 3 164.1250 Fire Camp Service Net 166.6125 "Command" Fontana area 166.8500 Air attack 167.9500 BLM Air to Ground 168.0500 NIFC Tac 1 168.0750 NIFC Tac 3 168.200 NIFC Tac 2 (Crew Net) 168.2500 BLM? "Command" 168.4000 BLM "Command" 168.6000 NIFC Tac 3 168.6250 Air Guard 169.1250 Calif. Fire Travel Net 169.0625 vehicle mechanics? 170.0000 Air to Ground Region 5 173.9125 Region 5 Tac 4 173.9625 Region 5 Tac 5 173.9875 Region 5 Tac 6 415.5500 National Air channel

HAM

145.220

Los Angeles Area

KNBC: http://www.nbc4.tv

KABC: http://www.abc7.com

KCBS: http://www.cbs2.com

KTTV: http://www.fox11la.com

KCAL: http://www.kcal.com

Good list of SoCal television stations and links to their websites:

http://newslink.org/catele.html

San Diego

http://nbcsandiego.feedroom.com/?fr_story=af0368e01c0323615f2e6f30970885b317fe905c

http://www.kogo.com/streaming.html

List of online TV and Newspapers in Ca.

http://www.keepandbeararms.com/opsd/np/ca.htm

2 posted on 10/27/2003 9:18 PM PST by spectr17


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: firestorm; forestfire; michaeldobbs; socalfires; wildfire
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To: All
I Believe that ramp that fell in both slymar and northridge quakes is named for the motor cop that died there following the northridge quake

I think is name is clarence dean
1,651 posted on 10/29/2003 3:31:00 PM PST by al baby (Ice cream does not have bones)
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To: BurbankKarl
Someone else may have posted this link, but FYI here is a pretty good map. It is big.
http://activefiremaps.fs.fed.us/archive/cgb2003302_1500.jpg
1,652 posted on 10/29/2003 3:31:34 PM PST by olorin
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To: webvanca
Sure wish that rain could get here a couple days early.
1,653 posted on 10/29/2003 3:31:39 PM PST by GOPrincess
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To: BurbankKarl
Military C130s at 4500 feet, media chopper at 5000 feet...

media again impeding the operations
1,654 posted on 10/29/2003 3:32:01 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl
Thank God. C-130's are there also, right?
1,655 posted on 10/29/2003 3:32:04 PM PST by Letitring (.)
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To: BurbankKarl
FINALLY
1,656 posted on 10/29/2003 3:32:37 PM PST by sf4dubya
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To: olorin; All
scv scanner has airdrop activity; DC-6 and S-2 inbound

mms://scvradio.no-ip.com:8000/
1,657 posted on 10/29/2003 3:33:26 PM PST by wolficatZ (___><))))*>____\0/____/|____"flipper to the rescue...")
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two structures burning at couples (?) canyon
1,658 posted on 10/29/2003 3:34:14 PM PST by lainie
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To: BurbankKarl
sannner ... Running Springs ... report 2 structure fires with gas
1,659 posted on 10/29/2003 3:34:54 PM PST by maggief
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To: lainie
Plea made to protect California owl; Environmentalists' fight likely to run into Bush opposition

Copyright 2001 Milwaukee Journal Sentinel June 3, 2001 By JENNIFER BOWLES Riverside Press-Enterprise

Riverside, Calif. -- The California spotted owl has been steadily declining in the Southern California mountains -- the San Bernardinos, San Jacintos, Santa Anas among them -- as well as the Sierra Nevada, and is at the center of renewed haggling over the Endangered Species Act.

An environmental group is seeking to have the bird protected under the act, just the kind of lawsuit the Bush administration is attempting to curb.

Federal protection for the owl most likely wouldn't create the level of uproar that came from the Northwest timber industry when the bird's cousin, the northern spotted owl, was placed on the threatened-species list in 1990.

Logging in the Southern California mountains is limited to cutting trees for firewood. And while the San Bernardino National Forest is a playground for 8 million people each year, even recreation would not be seriously restricted. A few hiking and off-road trails already have been rerouted around owl nests, said Forest Service spokeswoman Ruth Wenstrom.

But construction projects that require clearing wide swaths of trees, such as power lines, sewer lines, new roads or expansion of a ski resort, could face tougher obstacles in getting approval, Wenstrom said.

"We intend to keep them off the threatened and endangered species list," said Matt Mathes, a Forest Service spokesman. " Frankly, when animals get on that list, that's something of a failure on the part of humans. That's not supposed to happen."

While logging is the main culprit in the owl's decline in the Sierra range, a multitude of issues plagues the owl's life in Southern California.

Among the potential problems, said Bill La Haye, a wildlife biologist working for the Forest Service, are damaging air pollution that banks up against the mountains; homes and ski resorts that chew up and fragment owl habitat; drought and wildfires.

The owls, the environmentalists say, are important to humans because they are indicators of the health of forests.

The Center for Biological Diversity is impatient with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service's progress in helping the owl and has filed notice that it intends to sue the agency in an effort to get protection.

The service acknowledged in October that the owl's populations are declining and said it intended to decide by March whether to give the species federal protection. March came and went.

"It's on the back burner at the moment," said Pat Foulk, a spokeswoman for the agency's Sacramento office.

Environmentalists say lawsuits are the only way most species get protection. Legal action forced protection for the California spotted owl's cousins: the northern spotted owl and the Mexican spotted owl.

But the Bush administration is trying to quash the onslaught of such lawsuits -- there are 75 current lawsuits covering more than 400 species, plus 86 notices of intent to sue covering 640 more species, said Jane Hendron, a Fish and Wildlife spokeswoman.

1,660 posted on 10/29/2003 3:34:54 PM PST by Henk
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To: All
http://www.signonsandiego.com/

Updated 3:20 pm

BREAKING NEWS: Residents of Ramona warned of potential for evacuation due to high winds

Note: Are these winds a consequence of the nearby fire itself?

1,661 posted on 10/29/2003 3:35:01 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Fitzcarraldo
I'm assuming that when the plant material burns, it becomes carcinogenic soot/smoke with particulates. (I should add a disclaimer that I am not a scientist or environmentalist, nor am I speaking for the AQMD, merely reporting on what they say, as that aspect of the fire story may be of interest/concern to some.)
1,662 posted on 10/29/2003 3:35:04 PM PST by GOPrincess
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To: wolficatZ
thanks for the scnne pst man that awesome listening now
1,663 posted on 10/29/2003 3:36:28 PM PST by al baby (Ice cream does not have bones)
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To: al baby
Scanner post
1,664 posted on 10/29/2003 3:37:26 PM PST by al baby (Ice cream does not have bones)
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To: maggiefluffs
they said structures are gone, gas needs to be shut off
1,665 posted on 10/29/2003 3:37:43 PM PST by lainie
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To: al baby
yes, the motor cop went by a CHP officer trying to warn him and drove right off the end, lights and sirens
1,666 posted on 10/29/2003 3:37:52 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl
god blessim wheni ride over that overpas always get the he be g bes and goose bumps
1,667 posted on 10/29/2003 3:39:13 PM PST by al baby (Ice cream does not have bones)
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To: lainie
yep, 1/4 mile North of Couples (?)
1,668 posted on 10/29/2003 3:39:27 PM PST by maggief
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To: wolficatZ
I think that is what I am listening to...they had 8 loaded tankers and looking for somewhere to put it.
1,669 posted on 10/29/2003 3:39:58 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl
yep thats awesome
1,670 posted on 10/29/2003 3:41:28 PM PST by al baby (Ice cream does not have bones)
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To: BurbankKarl
CEDAR PINES NEEDS IT BAD..one Skycrane working the area.
1,671 posted on 10/29/2003 3:41:55 PM PST by wolficatZ (___><))))*>____\0/____/|____"flipper to the rescue...")
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Fire has jumped Deep Creek heading up Luna Mtn north of Lake Arrowhead, North of Rouse MEadows
1,672 posted on 10/29/2003 3:42:25 PM PST by spectr17 (Veni, Vedi, Velcro. I came, I saw, I stuck around)
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To: wolficatZ
No one on the ground at Green Valley to direct the airships
1,673 posted on 10/29/2003 3:43:50 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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128.220 mhz, air attack LAke Arrowhead
1,674 posted on 10/29/2003 3:44:06 PM PST by spectr17 (Veni, Vedi, Velcro. I came, I saw, I stuck around)
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To: Henk
Perhaps all the homeowners should sue the environuts for their losses due to their law suits holding up clearing.
1,675 posted on 10/29/2003 3:44:57 PM PST by JHENN22499
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To: BurbankKarl
They don't know where to go, then.
1,676 posted on 10/29/2003 3:45:09 PM PST by Letitring (.)
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To: maggiefluffs
Scanner ... structures ... 18 and Couples Canyon.
1,677 posted on 10/29/2003 3:45:19 PM PST by maggief
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To: lainie
Just had a nice little quake in Simi Valley.
1,678 posted on 10/29/2003 3:45:53 PM PST by Flashman_at_the_charge
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To: JHENN22499
Yes that's what my friends were talking about. A massive class action type suit against all envirocrats, etc.
1,679 posted on 10/29/2003 3:46:20 PM PST by Letitring (.)
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To: BurbankKarl; All
Chopper cam has about 15 min to stay over Cedar Pines; just saw Skycrane fly by cam
1,681 posted on 10/29/2003 3:46:59 PM PST by wolficatZ (___><))))*>____\0/____/|____"flipper to the rescue...")
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To: Letitring
I think I am listening to the air attack in Ventura County...would make sense to leave the C130s near Channel Islands...and free up other tankers to go to Berdoo...

will be interesting to see if those navy choppers actually got permission to leave Miramar and drop water...

1,682 posted on 10/29/2003 3:47:03 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl
3.2 eartquake simi vally
1,683 posted on 10/29/2003 3:48:17 PM PST by al baby (Ice cream does not have bones)
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To: lainie
What is the status of Poway?
1,684 posted on 10/29/2003 3:48:27 PM PST by hsmomx3 (I DID NOT vote for that woman, Napolitano!)
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To: BurbankKarl
2.4 mi WNW of Simi Valley, CA
(ID 14000376)
1,685 posted on 10/29/2003 3:48:44 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl
2.4 mi WNW of Simi Valley, CA 3.7 prelim
(ID 14000376)
1,686 posted on 10/29/2003 3:49:03 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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Wind warnings being extended to tomorrow in mtns,

majorly hosing us
1,687 posted on 10/29/2003 3:49:20 PM PST by spectr17 (Veni, Vedi, Velcro. I came, I saw, I stuck around)
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To: Flashman_at_the_charge
OMG.
1,688 posted on 10/29/2003 3:49:27 PM PST by Letitring (.)
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To: BurbankKarl
A Forest Service chick was on KNBC and said Running Springs will "go up in flames" within the hour. Sparky is up there and says he thinks that's nonsense.

Caller from Westlake Village is reporting a quake, good hard jolt, just now
1,689 posted on 10/29/2003 3:49:47 PM PST by lainie
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To: BurbankKarl
Blimey, fires, earthquakes, what next? The French?
1,690 posted on 10/29/2003 3:49:57 PM PST by Flashman_at_the_charge
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To: Letitring
3.2 isn't a biggie...but it can sure unsettle you just the same.
1,691 posted on 10/29/2003 3:50:23 PM PST by mrs tiggywinkle
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To: BurbankKarl
LA City Fire Strike Team 1010A in place with Lake Arrowhead Structure Protection Group.
1,692 posted on 10/29/2003 3:50:24 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: Flashman_at_the_charge
OK my first laughter of the day
1,693 posted on 10/29/2003 3:51:37 PM PST by JHENN22499
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To: Flashman_at_the_charge
Drought and plagues of beetles.
1,694 posted on 10/29/2003 3:52:14 PM PST by calljack (Sometimes your worst nightmare is just a start.)
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To: mrs tiggywinkle
I don't know what the effect of massive fire would be over a fault line, do you?
1,695 posted on 10/29/2003 3:52:14 PM PST by Letitring (.)
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To: hsmomx3
I have not heard about Poway for a long time but I'll keep my eyes open
1,696 posted on 10/29/2003 3:52:50 PM PST by lainie
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To: Flashman_at_the_charge
lol
1,697 posted on 10/29/2003 3:53:23 PM PST by Letitring (.)
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structrures burning east of Kuffle Canyon, Hwy 18 near Skyforest
1,698 posted on 10/29/2003 3:53:43 PM PST by spectr17 (Veni, Vedi, Velcro. I came, I saw, I stuck around)
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To: Flashman_at_the_charge
Just had a nice little quake in Simi Valley.

Felt it in Chatsworth. That was a mild one. The bigger one comes later!

1,699 posted on 10/29/2003 3:53:52 PM PST by BobS
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To: ridesthemiles
"These enviro dummies need to wake up and smell the smoke! I don't know how many states need to burn to the ground before they come to their senses"

But not in Senator Dashle's state...he snuck in a stealth provision in a bill to allow forest clearing

1,700 posted on 10/29/2003 3:54:15 PM PST by spokeshave (Cancel the San Jose Merc and the one way truck to Nevada)
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